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Ravek

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I'd buy a PS3 anyway if I had the money to spare. Wait, no, that's not true, in that case I'd buy a new pc. If afterward I still had money to spare, then I'd buy a PS3.

By the way, are there even any good FPS games for PS3? There a lots of games on it that interest me, but none of them are FPS.
 
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Korten12 said:
Glademaster said:
Korten12 said:
Dys said:
Don't be silly, a PS3, even not, is hugely expensive. The few exclusives that aren't available on a PC hardly justify the huge price range, or the added price of games. Not to mention the cost of an adequate screen to game on.

PC gaming, over the life of the PC (usually about 2 console generations if it's well built) is substantially cheaper. Unless I come into money sometime soon, control schemes aren't going to impact my decision.
most ps3 exclusives are not on pc, alot of xbox exclusives are.
Well they aren't really an xbox exclusive if they are on PC as well....
yeah but for some reason they still call them that.
They're a big company trying to make money they will say anything to make you buy it. If they thought that you would believe it and that they would get away with it they would tell you that when you make a Sim you can pull it out of the monitor into real life to try and get you to buy it.
 

Acidwell

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Heavy rain on a keyboard would be so confusing. The only advantage would be for fps games for the added advantage of mouse. imo
 

omega 616

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Ldude893 said:
omega 616 said:
Would
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/10/eagle-eye-peripheral-adds-keyboard-support-to-ps3-fps-games/
entice you to buy a PS3?
Short term: No

Long term: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
It's surprising that, thats jokes been done 3 times now, well twice but it has "this'd" once.

Way to add to the discussion amount of no's people.

Dys said:
Don't be silly, a PS3, even not, is hugely expensive.
There about the same as a 360 these days and since if you have a HD tv you could have a 74" tv/monitor to game on, I think thats more than adequate.
 

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omega 616 said:
Unless there is a monitor cable that goes to scart, there is no way of connecting my PC to my tv.


I used to watch downloaded video on my TV all the time, using this. You need s-video output of course.
 

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Considering Keyboard/Mouse has been available on the Xbox 360 (and the PS3, I think?) long ago, and it doesn't seem to have enticed PC gamers to switch over, I'd guess no.

Old news, didn't change anything.
Actually no, see the mouse and keyboard were only every usable for the system interfaces and never (well extremely rarely in any case) the games themselves.
 

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666Chaos said:
If you have a tv that you can hook up your computer to it it will destroy the tv in under a month. Anything that is stationary like huds in alot of fps games or even if you leave it at the desktop it will burn that image into your tv. Tvs and moniters are very different and its a bad idea to hook your computer up to one.

As for the graphics that again because a tv is much bigger then a monitor. Its easier to get higher level of graphics when the picture is 4 or 5 times smaller or even more. As for the cost of upgrading a normal desktop that really depends on what you consider a normal desktop. My desktop runs just fine for everything but games and their is no reason to upgrade it unless its for a pure gaming purpose. Its also 10 years old and hasnt been updated since then. Thats not an uncommon case for most people to have. Although i have a laptop that i often game on and can run anything out right now. Its also only cheaper if you get parts at a discount and know enough about computers to install everything which most people dont. For your average gamer pc gaming is much more expensive.

...i can get for cheaper on the console.
And there has never been a console game with a HUD?

And TVs actually have a lower resolution. PC monitors have been what would be called "hi-def" since 2004 (Source: XKCD. Reliable). It doesn't take any processing power form a console or PC to output to a bigger screen, only for a bigger resolution. since then there are more pixels (instead of just being larger pixels).

and it's not hard to plug parts in. Seriously, it is almost impossible to wire a PC up wrong (Except maybe the on button)

And whut? PC games are cheaper than consoles. I see console games all the time for £40-£50. I've never seen a PC game for more than £35. And those were all multi-platform. PC exclusives are never more than £25 when new.

(Also, try pressing the "shift" key. "I" when referring to yourself should be capitalised. And use return more often, it looks like a wall o' text.)
 

Dys

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Korten12 said:
Dys said:
Don't be silly, a PS3, even not, is hugely expensive. The few exclusives that aren't available on a PC hardly justify the huge price range, or the added price of games. Not to mention the cost of an adequate screen to game on.

PC gaming, over the life of the PC (usually about 2 console generations if it's well built) is substantially cheaper. Unless I come into money sometime soon, control schemes aren't going to impact my decision.
most ps3 exclusives are not on pc, alot of xbox exclusives are.
The relatively meager sum of PS3 games that aren't available on PC are not enough to justify buying an entire console. There aren't very many, fuck, even if every game released on the PS3 was unavailable on the PC, the high price and low lifespan of the console isn't worth it to many PC gamers. Think about it, at $60-$110+ (I'm Australian, the prices are high but the scaling is pretty much the same regardless of where you are) a pop for PS3 title (of which, let's be outrageous and call it 100, titles) compared to the unlimited mod library and insanely cheap, near unlimited library of PC games.

A few weeks ago, I bought for less than half the price of a new PS3 game the entire red faction series, dawn of war+expansions, company of heroes+ expansions, Supcom+expansion, titan question + expansion and full spectrum warrior+ expansion and S.T.A.L.K.E.R the shadow of Chernobyl as well as a few others. It was 13 games/expansions in total, at least 4 of which current are current gen (some are older). Hell, 5 minutes on steam (and overpriced, bloated pile of shit) reveals oblivion and it's expansions are $8.50US (which I can't be bothered converting to AU exactly, but is somewhere around the $10au mark). I actually saw obvlivion (not GOTY edition) selling used for $30 in a gamestore the other week. I can't stress enough just how expensive consoles are, most gamers can't afford it, end of.

666Chaos said:
If you have a tv that you can hook up your computer to it it will destroy the tv in under a month. Anything that is stationary like huds in alot of fps games or even if you leave it at the desktop it will burn that image into your tv. Tvs and moniters are very different and its a bad idea to hook your computer up to one.

As for the graphics that again because a tv is much bigger then a monitor. Its easier to get higher level of graphics when the picture is 4 or 5 times smaller or even more. As for the cost of upgrading a normal desktop that really depends on what you consider a normal desktop. My desktop runs just fine for everything but games and their is no reason to upgrade it unless its for a pure gaming purpose. Its also 10 years old and hasnt been updated since then. Thats not an uncommon case for most people to have. Although i have a laptop that i often game on and can run anything out right now. Its also only cheaper if you get parts at a discount and know enough about computers to install everything which most people dont. For your average gamer pc gaming is much more expensive.
The myth that PC gaming is initially more expensive than consoles annoys me for reasons I can't explain. I'm from Australia, and even with our ridiculous prices for all things computers, I could probably make your 10 year old computer[footnote]My fathers 6 year old, mid-low end desktop is about $100 away from being able to run all games, smoothly in full HD. It currently has been able to run every single game I've tried on settings equal to or higher than consoles run them[/footnote] run any game for about $200au (that's like, I dunno, 80 pounds?), fuck, I could build a brand new[footnote]A sensible new computer is running last gen tech, which is still about 3 generations ahead of current consoles, but isn't "cutting edge"[/footnote] rig for under $600au (I'm not motivated to prove it right now, as I've done so countless times on this forum already, this site has pretty standard AU prices). If you don't know how to assemble a computer, spend 10 minutes learning (I can say, with all seriousness, that it's easier than connecting a console to a wall mounted plasma/LCD tv), if you're pants on head retarded/don't have 10 minutes (10 minutes is probably closer to 2-3 hours if you have to learn from scratch), then you can pay $150au (at the absolute most, I mean if you're seriously getting scammed) and have someone assemble it for you (if you shop around, you can nearly always find a mass produced pre-build rig that won't actually cost anymore, in melbourne, the green guide has a lot of ads for these products, as long as you stay away from apple, dell, HP etc it isn't expensive).

You're aware that PCs are more than capable of running on full HD tvs (at full 1080p), and the notion that PC games are more likely to damage a 42" TFT LCD screen than a console is straight up, completely wrong. I have no idea where you got such an idea, but you only get image burn on plasma screens[footnote]this is caused by any still image, menu screens or HUDs on console games cause this just as readily as desktop wallpapers[/footnote] (which are all round terrible for gaming, and not even all that common tbh).
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
I don't think that the selling point for PC gamers is a keyboard but rather the ability to modify their games heavily and enjoy a wide spectrum of non-mainstream titles.
So, while not being one of them, I would say not really.
This. And that there are genres of games that really just 'click' on PC :p

OT: Plus picking up fun, discount games on PC ... like one of the funnest experiences in a JB Hi-Fi, EB, or Game store is flicking through the HUGE bargain bins set up for PC gamers .... and some of the old treasures (that you may have to tinker with settings to get to play) of gaming that you find for 5 bucks.

PC gaming has everything to please someone, and so many treasures to be found f you're only willing to look for them.

Like with consoles, you tend to buy games you're looking for (like new releases) .... whereas with PC you might not be looking fr a game at all ... but find that rare something-something hidden away.

I think thats also a strong part of the appeal of PC games.
 

octafish

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So will this mean I could run all my PC apps on a PS3?

No?

I'll stick to my one machine that does everything. I can watch TV on my PC too.
 

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The PC was the first thing I touched on in gaming, it will probably stay that way.

Many of the things I like about the PC as a platform have already been mentioned by a lot of posters - in particular MadeInHell's.
 

Ravek

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Sebenko said:
PC monitors have been what would be called "hi-def" since 2004
I've had monitors with 1280 x 1024 resolutions (strictly larger than 720p HD) for ten years now. Monitors with 1920 x 1200 resolutions (strictly larger than 1080p) became popular somewhere around 2004, yeah.
 

omega 616

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Ravek said:
omega 616 said:
Unless there is a monitor cable that goes to scart, there is no way of connecting my PC to my tv.


I used to watch downloaded video on my TV all the time, using this. You need s-video output of course.
I lack the appropriate hole to stick that into, Kind of got my hopes up then.
 

Korten12

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Dys said:
Korten12 said:
Dys said:
Don't be silly, a PS3, even not, is hugely expensive. The few exclusives that aren't available on a PC hardly justify the huge price range, or the added price of games. Not to mention the cost of an adequate screen to game on.

PC gaming, over the life of the PC (usually about 2 console generations if it's well built) is substantially cheaper. Unless I come into money sometime soon, control schemes aren't going to impact my decision.
most ps3 exclusives are not on pc, alot of xbox exclusives are.
The relatively meager sum of PS3 games that aren't available on PC are not enough to justify buying an entire console. There aren't very many, fuck, even if every game released on the PS3 was unavailable on the PC, the high price and low lifespan of the console isn't worth it to many PC gamers. Think about it, at $60-$110+ (I'm Australian, the prices are high but the scaling is pretty much the same regardless of where you are) a pop for PS3 title (of which, let's be outrageous and call it 100, titles) compared to the unlimited mod library and insanely cheap, near unlimited library of PC games.

A few weeks ago, I bought for less than half the price of a new PS3 game the entire red faction series, dawn of war+expansions, company of heroes+ expansions, Supcom+expansion, titan question + expansion and full spectrum warrior+ expansion and S.T.A.L.K.E.R the shadow of Chernobyl as well as a few others. It was 13 games/expansions in total, at least 4 of which current are current gen (some are older). Hell, 5 minutes on steam (and overpriced, bloated pile of shit) reveals oblivion and it's expansions are $8.50US (which I can't be bothered converting to AU exactly, but is somewhere around the $10au mark). I actually saw obvlivion (not GOTY edition) selling used for $30 in a gamestore the other week. I can't stress enough just how expensive consoles are, most gamers can't afford it, end of.
if most gamers couldnt afford it, most gamers wouldnt be console gamers which is the majority.
 

Triaed

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I have a well equipped rig and a PS3 (I am avoiding buying any other consoles) and I agree with the comments here. However, most comments are about FPS gaming, I just want to point out that RTS suffer on the console terribly; the ones that get ported have to be dumbed down so as t make them unplayable. Having a keyboard may make the difference, but it cannot be limited to mapping the controller buttons to keys, the game MUST natively support keyboard and mouse so that all gazillion game commands and features are supported (not just the 12 buttons + axes)

No, a keyboard peripheral would not entice me to play on the PS3.