Akimbo 1887 Shotguns... hmmm.

[BaldursBananaSoap]

Compaining about balance and skill in every COD game after COD2 is like going into Pizza Hut and complaining about cheese.

 

[Kollega]

Hey do you want to know somethin? It is a fucking GAME. Not REAL. Who gives a fuckin damn. I mean for god sakes do you think their will be people running around in Rio with RPG's blowing someone up with a riotsheild and then t-bag their body? No? This is a game kid, meaning it is not real. The "Modern" part was the fact it is set in modern times. Well so is many other games that do not have an ounce of realism. THAT is my point.

Alright alright alright, so it's not in the title. Fanboys and press still call it "realistic", when it really isn't. My point still kinda stands - MW2 is a subtype of shooter grounded in reality (no plasma cannons and aliens, no chainsaw bayonets and exploding bow arrows, no invisibility watches and healing rays). It's not ArmA II, but soldier dual-wielding 120-year old shotguns looks somewhat out of place anyway.

And cool down, will ya? Puh-lease?

 

[remmus]

I hate akimbo shotguns weather its the akimbo sawn-offs or the akimbo 1887 shotguns. Its so annoying when you try to knife someone and then you suddenly get you face blown off. And when you watch the kill cam you find out that they werent even aimming at you.

wait...what?

you tried to knife someone with a shotgun....your active running up to someone with a weapon known for it´s short range stopping power with a melee weapon....what?


now if ya mean as in you tried to backstab and he didn´t need to face you then ok broken game, but if you ran up front full combat then a game would be broken if a shotgun didn´t own your butt.

 

[ThreeWords]

If you don't see them coming then that's it, no kill-streak for you (and don't even bother trying to knife them!)
Would I say they're overpowered? As long as your gun can shoot from further away, and they don't get to you first, probably not.

Fixed! (Sorry)

Apart from the frankly aggressive lack of spelling/punctuation/grammar, I actually agree. Shotguns are close rang weapons, so get something with a decent reach and mow them down before they have a chance to return fire

 

[BaldursBananaSoap]

Overpowered or not?

Personally I'm starting to dislike them a lot. It feels like every second person is using them for easy, easy kills.

What are peoples' thoughts?

Overpowered is an understatement. I really hope that those greedy cocksuckers at IW nerf those disgusting pieces of shit very very soon. They kill all meaning of the word fairplay, they are so easy to use and the range is rediculous. I mean it's a secondary weapon! It's not supposed to take a fucking ak in battle! And how the fuck can you wield two of them! Whos idea was that!?

The whole akimbo thing about CoD 6 can go fuck itself. I loved CoD4 because everything in that game was possible, I believed that it could happen. CoD6 really took a warm juicy shit on all that...

The amount of people who actually think COD games are realistic is laughable. What was realistic about COD4 for you? Was it the fact that a group of like five guys killed around 50,000 terrorists in a couple of days, that two guys with snipers took on an army, hound dogs and a helicopter and survived. Was it the fact that no gun has any proper recoil, the fact that you can shoot or stab someone in the toe and they die, or that you can throw grenades 600ft, or hold a sniper perfectly still while standing or that an enemy can lie on the ground and shoot you after you've shot him in the face?

Plus "They kill all meaning of fair play"? Every COD after COD2 has been an unbalanced piece of shit. Unbalancing perks that get you cheap ass kills, unbalanced maps that favour one side, unbalanced weapons that get you cheap kills and.....I could go on forever but I wont.

 

[philzibit]

I'd just like everyone one to know, dual wielding shotguns, while being impractical and inaccurate, is possible and wouldn't break your arm.

On the other hand, unloading a Desert Eagle clip in real life in a few seconds would break your wrist, assuming you would finish the clip without it jamming. So Akimbo DesEagle is ridiculous.

 

[orangebandguy]

Well it's impossible to duel wield shotguns. So they shouldn't be in the game, especially one called Modern Warfare.

 

[philzibit]

The only problem with those shotties is that they have obscene range. If the range was cut down they wouldn't be so op.

But in real life, they do have a decent range.

 

[Ninjamedic]

A list of things d-bags who have very little skill do:

*Dual Shotguns - as you said.

*Grenade Launcher - Its called the "Noob Tube" for a reason.

*Javelin - In case you havent seen this in action yet then let me elaborate, people have realised that if you walk into a room full of enemies with the Javelin and fire it hits the roof and everyone dies... yourself included but that doesnt really seem to matter to them.

*Knife - Yes the knife, the magical weapon that gives you the ability to teleport to your enemy! Just sprint around the map clicking the right stick in any time you see someone and they die straight away.

I dont use any of these except the knife (but only when you are behind someone or you do that thing when you and the other guy run into each other and one of you does the stupid thing and starts shooting), and yes... it does get annoying.

He pretty much sums up everything that may even begin to justify the existence of the 2x1887's
My one problem with your arguments is that nearly everything in mw2 has been flamed at some point, 2xattachments, stopping power, famas, killstreak rewards and everything in the above quote, all these unbalances seem to have balanced the mutiplayer pretty well(from an outsiders view anyway). Dont get me wrong i think the 2x1887's should be purged but there must be something that can counter them.

 

[remmus]

Well it's impossible to duel wield shotguns. So they shouldn't be in the game, especially one called Modern Warfare.

eh again it´s called Modern warfare...not real or realistic warfare...so your title call sort of fell on it´s butt, plus realism like everything else in life is something you can have too much of.

is it impractical? Heck yes

Would a soldier ever use two shotguns? Not in his life

Does it looks awesome and sweet? In my mind I rather stick to one level action shotgun but it still has it´s charm

But in real life, they do have a decent range.

especially if loaded with slugs, then they work well as long range rifles (not prefect but still)

 

[L3m0n_L1m3]

I like to use just one 1887 to show how badass I am.

I actually prefer the spas-12 over the models.

 

[DarkDain]

Pfft game has no realism. I mean come on, a heart beat detector? I'd imagine if that was a real sensor, it wouldnt be limited to the direction your facing only, thats a game balance mechanic. And you can die in a single shot to the TOE or HAND. Should be able to shoot with a riot shield too. Oh and in real life, bullet proof vests kind work. What i hate most is the camptastic game style the game has going on, its like a FPS idol to campers.

About the shotguns, i just hate how accurate they are even at a long distance... And the consistently laggy kill-cams that seem to show alternate realities that answer the 'what if i didnt actually shoot him first 5 times and still die?'

 

[MiracleOfSound]

This should be a post in some thread on "favourite weapons" raher than a threat just for that.

And Akimbo 1887 shotguns are UNDERPOWERED in that they would be impossible to aim and far too slow to fire.

Better off with a nice submachine gun like the MP5.

This thread is specifically about the 1887s in MW2.

 

[philzibit]

A list of things d-bags who have very little skill do:

*Dual Shotguns - as you said.

*Grenade Launcher - Its called the "Noob Tube" for a reason.

*Javelin - In case you havent seen this in action yet then let me elaborate, people have realised that if you walk into a room full of enemies with the Javelin and fire it hits the roof and everyone dies... yourself included but that doesnt really seem to matter to them.

*Knife - Yes the knife, the magical weapon that gives you the ability to teleport to your enemy! Just sprint around the map clicking the right stick in any time you see someone and they die straight away.

I dont use any of these except the knife (but only when you are behind someone or you do that thing when you and the other guy run into each other and one of you does the stupid thing and starts shooting), and yes... it does get annoying.

He pretty much sums up everything that may even begin to justify the existence of the 2x1887's
My one problem with your arguments is that nearly everything in mw2 has been flamed at some point, 2xattachments, stopping power, famas, killstreak rewards and everything in the above quote, all these unbalances seem to have balanced the mutiplayer pretty well(from an outsiders view anyway). Dont get me wrong i think the 2x1887's should be purged but there must be something that can counter them.

What can counter the 1887? Any decent player that can aim. I really don't have a problem with people using 1887's, the only time they get me is when I'm playing sloppy.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

know that sniper building on quarry? the really high warehouse? I was right at the top, and an akimbo 1887'er walked in at the bottom, looked up, and 1 shotted me....

Yeah that happened me too. Insane range.

We kinda deserved it for camping on that walkway though, hehe.

 

[Zing]

The game is terribly balanced, it's less balanced then any multiplayer game I've played, including mmo's which is pathetic.

Two stupidest things are the 1887s and the Knife, love a 10 meter range knife that teleport's you to your target.

 

[Ninjamedic]

A list of things d-bags who have very little skill do:

*Dual Shotguns - as you said.

*Grenade Launcher - Its called the "Noob Tube" for a reason.

*Javelin - In case you havent seen this in action yet then let me elaborate, people have realised that if you walk into a room full of enemies with the Javelin and fire it hits the roof and everyone dies... yourself included but that doesnt really seem to matter to them.

*Knife - Yes the knife, the magical weapon that gives you the ability to teleport to your enemy! Just sprint around the map clicking the right stick in any time you see someone and they die straight away.

I dont use any of these except the knife (but only when you are behind someone or you do that thing when you and the other guy run into each other and one of you does the stupid thing and starts shooting), and yes... it does get annoying.

He pretty much sums up everything that may even begin to justify the existence of the 2x1887's
My one problem with your arguments is that nearly everything in mw2 has been flamed at some point, 2xattachments, stopping power, famas, killstreak rewards and everything in the above quote, all these unbalances seem to have balanced the mutiplayer pretty well(from an outsiders view anyway). Dont get me wrong i think the 2x1887's should be purged but there must be something that can counter them.

What can counter the 1887? Any decent player that can aim. I really don't have a problem with people using 1887's, the only time they get me is when I'm playing sloppy.

Sounds like the reincarnation of martyrdom to me, ill just points grind untill im lv50 and then stick to private matches.

 

[Alotak]

A list of things d-bags who have very little skill do:

*Dual Shotguns - as you said.

*Grenade Launcher - Its called the "Noob Tube" for a reason.

*Javelin - In case you havent seen this in action yet then let me elaborate, people have realised that if you walk into a room full of enemies with the Javelin and fire it hits the roof and everyone dies... yourself included but that doesnt really seem to matter to them.

*Knife - Yes the knife, the magical weapon that gives you the ability to teleport to your enemy! Just sprint around the map clicking the right stick in any time you see someone and they die straight away.

I dont use any of these except the knife (but only when you are behind someone or you do that thing when you and the other guy run into each other and one of you does the stupid thing and starts shooting), and yes... it does get annoying.

He pretty much sums up everything that may even begin to justify the existence of the 2x1887's
My one problem with your arguments is that nearly everything in mw2 has been flamed at some point, 2xattachments, stopping power, famas, killstreak rewards and everything in the above quote, all these unbalances seem to have balanced the mutiplayer pretty well(from an outsiders view anyway). Dont get me wrong i think the 2x1887's should be purged but there must be something that can counter them.

What can counter the 1887? Any decent player that can aim. I really don't have a problem with people using 1887's, the only time they get me is when I'm playing sloppy.

Javelin is a glitch, well there is one im sure your all aware.

I have to agree with this guy, if you play like say A typical COD player you'll get mullered.
Dont sprint right in, you will jsut die, Move slower.
Play Hardcore, learn the skills you need and then transfere them!

As for the Noob Tube, it only works if you are staying still or if you are running blindly around. (agasint you i mean there)

COD is not realistic online (offline is closer) it will never be. People who want it to be should be shot the see if they want realism. Or go play SOCOM or Rainbow 6

 

[MiracleOfSound]

If you cannot beat 1887s then you are not understanding how they use them, use Slight 'o' hand pro and you beat them every time!

They use Bling, Akimbo+FMJ, and stopping power without those the shutguns are terrible (the akimbo ones anyway) so just play to their weaknesses. Ie dont go near them cap them from range!

That's not very viable when you're defending a headquarters or flag and they come rushing in the door blasting randomly into corners.