Americans die in the new Assassins Creed 3 trailer

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McMullen

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ShockValue said:
Now I guess you people can move onto something else to ***** about.
I dunno, if they're up in arms over who isn't seen getting killed in trailers for a game that hasn't been released yet and for which little plot info has been given, in a franchise well known for trailers that are intentionally misleading in terms of plot, they might actually be running out of stuff.

That or they're looking so hard for reasons to bash the US that they'll jump on anything. I'm not saying there's no reason to bash the US, there's lots, but c'mon guys, you don't have to make stuff up here. You just make yourself and anyone else who's critical of the US look ridiculous. Stick to our questionable foreign policies and our abuse of the concept of legal jurisdiction, or any other of our innumerable real transgressions.
 

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McMullen said:
ShockValue said:
Now I guess you people can move onto something else to ***** about.
I dunno, if they're up in arms over who isn't seen getting killed in trailers for a game that hasn't been released yet and for which little plot info has been given, in a franchise well known for trailers that are intentionally misleading in terms of plot, they might actually be running out of stuff.

That or they're looking so hard for reasons to bash the US that they'll jump on anything. I'm not saying there's no reason to bash the US, there's lots, but c'mon guys, you don't have to make stuff up here. You just make yourself and anyone else who's critical of the US look ridiculous. Stick to our questionable foreign policies and our abuse of the concept of legal jurisdiction, or any other of our innumerable real transgressions.
Are you guys just dense or are you purposely missing the point?

People weren't worried about the fact that we might have been killing Brits, we were worried about the possibility of the entire storyline in the game being driven by an overly patriotic "fuck yeh america!" sentiment. We were worried about that because that would make for a dull, uninspiring and overall crap storyline. The reason we were worried about this is because earlier trailers (specifically the july 4th one) seemed to focus entirely on said aforementioned sentiment and ignore any possibility of there being a sensible, half decent story somewhere in there.

The fact that we can now see that the British aren't going to be the only victims suggests that said aforementioned sentiment isn't going be the sole drive of the storyline, which gives us hope that the storyline might actually somewhat decent.

It's nothing to do with bashing the americans or finding something inane to ***** about and everything to do with people being worried (because of poor marketing) that the game they might have been looking forward to is being turned to shit. Whether you like it or not these trailers are a huge part of the info we have on the game at the moment, it's not exactly unusual for people to draw things from them about what the game might be like on release.

Hope that's cleared things up.
 
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Christ this looks good. I really need to finish Revelations some time to know what's going on with the storyline but... that tower defence is putting me off. D:
 

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How did he get that close to two guys facing each other on an open field?
DugMachine said:
Lol how did the guy not notice him sneaking up behind his buddy there?
Because of the amazing, cutting-edge, new AI engine, unparalleled in the industry, built into Ubisoft's incredible, ultra-photo-realistic next-gen engine AnvilNext.

Seriously, the more I watch that tech-display trailer the more I laugh at the buzz words and tech-jargon (most of which doesn't fit what's being shown) the guy doing the voice-over keeps saying. And, the more I become unimpressed with what's on display.
 

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Really? This was a deal breaker for some people? I'm not keen on the whole Assassin's Creed trilogy... But was there really a huge kerfuffle over whom you'd be stabbing?
 

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Yes, in the first games you killed Christians, then in the last one you got to kill some Muslims, now in this you get to Kill British and Americans.
 

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Shpongled said:
Fair enough, but given the franchise's history and how little we know about it, it's still absurd to assume anything about the plot from the trailers. The demos and trailers for the first game said nothing about Abstergo, the Animus, or the story taking place in modern times. There were subtle hints, but nothing official.

ACII's trailers were more straightforward, but still didn't tell us much about who the bad guys were or their history with Ezio's family.

ACB... was actually pretty much WYSIWYG. Except for the battle in front of the Pantheon that never happened, and how small a role Rodrigo played.

Revelations' trailers implied a lot of things that simply didn't happen, like spending time in Constantinople as Altair, (or spending more than a few minutes as a young Altair, period) or witnessing Ezio's death, or explaining some of the events of previous games.

Bottom line is that you shouldn't assume anything in any trailer for any of these games is canon, which I thought would be obvious, and yet people are assuming so much about the plot from what little we've seen. There was too much vitriol over too little information, and it was facepalm-inducing.
 

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Helmholtz Watson said:
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Helmholtz Watson said:
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GOOD. I dont want an "ASSASINS FER AMURICA" game. I want people to push the envelope and get past this juvenile "I'm good, you're bad" rut that gaming is in.
Because the imperialistic British were in the right for forcing their government on the colonies?
Was it also right for the Patriots commit genocide against the native americans at the same time?

This was a war of two evils, so they should be shown equally.
At the time, they were not committing a genocide against all Native Americans, so your comment is a red herring.

Equally? *looks at African history, Irish history, Indian history, and Chinese history* lol, the two are hardly the same.
Actually during the revoluntionary war, the colonial forces where quite anit- the native americans and killed quite a few of them, quite a few notable clans such as the iroquise sided with the British for this reason
 

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Mrcolie5 said:
Helmholtz Watson said:
Blazing Steel said:
Helmholtz Watson said:
Artemis923 said:
GOOD. I dont want an "ASSASINS FER AMURICA" game. I want people to push the envelope and get past this juvenile "I'm good, you're bad" rut that gaming is in.
Because the imperialistic British were in the right for forcing their government on the colonies?
Was it also right for the Patriots commit genocide against the native americans at the same time?

This was a war of two evils, so they should be shown equally.
At the time, they were not committing a genocide against all Native Americans, so your comment is a red herring.

Equally? *looks at African history, Irish history, Indian history, and Chinese history* lol, the two are hardly the same.
Actually during the revoluntionary war, the colonial forces where quite anit- the native americans and killed quite a few of them, quite a few notable clans such as the iroquise sided with the British for this reason
As I said before, I'm not saying the patriots were innocent, just that Britain is in no position to claim the moral high ground.
 

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McMullen said:
Shpongled said:
Fair enough, but given the franchise's history and how little we know about it, it's still absurd to assume anything about the plot from the trailers. The demos and trailers for the first game said nothing about Abstergo, the Animus, or the story taking place in modern times. There were subtle hints, but nothing official.

ACII's trailers were more straightforward, but still didn't tell us much about who the bad guys were or their history with Ezio's family.

ACB... was actually pretty much WYSIWYG. Except for the battle in front of the Pantheon that never happened, and how small a role Rodrigo played.

Revelations' trailers implied a lot of things that simply didn't happen, like spending time in Constantinople as Altair, (or spending more than a few minutes as a young Altair, period) or witnessing Ezio's death, or explaining some of the events of previous games.

Bottom line is that you shouldn't assume anything in any trailer for any of these games is canon, which I thought would be obvious, and yet people are assuming so much about the plot from what little we've seen. There was too much vitriol over too little information, and it was facepalm-inducing.
Have to say i can't argue with any of that, trailers are pretty much always shit. But i can't deny it does worry me when trailers seem to be showing me the exact opposite of what i wanted from a game i'm somewhat looking forward too. Whether it's sensible or not, it's often the only thing we have to go on and i can't help but get somewhat worried and want to discuss it with others.
 

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Promethax said:
I love the reactions on the first page.

*trailer released w/ British enemies*
"OMG tihs gaem s gonna b compeltly oen-sided adn wil suk werrz teh amurricn enumeez?"

*trailer released w/ Colonial enemies*
"OMFG hoo teh hell cayrz?"
I made this thread because I wanted people to stop complaining about the game being Anti-British.

Also why has nobody mentioned "Un-United States of America" that line is so stupid that not even Darth Maul's(Yes it's him) narration can make it sound cool.
 

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The whole hullabaloo was silly anyway. Controversy? More like nontroversy. Am I right? Amiright? Am I...eh...ahem...
Moving on...
 
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Where's my pro-British trailer?

'When I ask them to remove the tea from Boston Harbour'
'When they refuse to learn the history of a country that is very important'
'When they don't kiss a portrait of George III'

... it would be called 'Crush'. And it would be spiffing.
 

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DugMachine said:
Lol how did the guy not notice him sneaking up behind his buddy there?
It's very simple, actually. When your in a war, you're not fighting all the time. This must be in a controlled zone, some distance from the frontline where two soldiers happen to be talking, not expecting that nice half injun boy to stab them.
 

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I just love how no one in this thread has realized that when Conner comes up and kills the Colonial troops, the narrator says "Uncertain Loyalties", which pretty much means that some of the people you'll be killing will be traitors to the Revolution.
 

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Helmholtz Watson said:
Mrcolie5 said:
Helmholtz Watson said:
Blazing Steel said:
Helmholtz Watson said:
Artemis923 said:
GOOD. I dont want an "ASSASINS FER AMURICA" game. I want people to push the envelope and get past this juvenile "I'm good, you're bad" rut that gaming is in.
Because the imperialistic British were in the right for forcing their government on the colonies?
Was it also right for the Patriots commit genocide against the native americans at the same time?

This was a war of two evils, so they should be shown equally.
At the time, they were not committing a genocide against all Native Americans, so your comment is a red herring.

Equally? *looks at African history, Irish history, Indian history, and Chinese history* lol, the two are hardly the same.
Actually during the revoluntionary war, the colonial forces where quite anit- the native americans and killed quite a few of them, quite a few notable clans such as the iroquise sided with the British for this reason
As I said before, I'm not saying the patriots were innocent, just that Britain is in no position to claim the moral high ground.
As a Brit I hope that if you find anyone of my fellow County men/women who do try to claim the moral high ground, that you rip them a new one because they are beyond stupid. I mean we had the largest Empire in history and we got it by going to other peoples countries, shooting anyone who looked at us funny and then made the survivors our *****. How can anyone claim that we were the good guys? But I do have to say I have never really come accross any Brit doing so. As a people we seem to be good at admiting what major douche nozzles we were back then.