I'm not sure how that cartoon is linked to your point, all I'm getting from it is Obama wants to intentionally kill Americans...thiosk said:Sadly, you can't express the above in a catchy poster. Well, i guess you can
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I'm not sure how that cartoon is linked to your point, all I'm getting from it is Obama wants to intentionally kill Americans...thiosk said:Sadly, you can't express the above in a catchy poster. Well, i guess you can
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Just to relate, I live in MA where you have to have health care, or you get a tax penalty at the end of the year. It's terrible. I have a family, 2 kids and my wife, and the cheapest plan that we can get if we buy on our own is 650 dollars a month. That is through our "Commonwealth Connector" program in MA.thiosk said:snip
Good point, although from what i know (I'm Brit btw) the states control the police and fire department so its not technically the government... but yes, postal service and i presume education as well is state run, so why not health????KaZZaP said:Why do americans have such a big deal with socialism, I mean the US seems to be pretty happy with a socialized police force, firefighters and post services. And up here in Canada I'm pretty sure if someone tried to take away our socialized health care system there would be a revolution up in this *****.
Whats the point, here in the UK we all know the goverment are a bunch of halfwits and fuckups. Why make a poster saying that, we may as well point at the sky shouting "It's blue, with clouds!!!!"Machines Are Us said:It always amazes me how involved US citizens seem to get with their politics, for some reason in the UK everyone just bitches about it but nobody would take the time to create posters showing their opinions or anything.
The posters may be stupid, but at least people give a damn I suppose.
Ahh, a fellow fan of Mock the Week I see...was it from that?Doc Theta Sigma said:-snip-
The whole change is what he's going to do i.e. free healthcare and the economyAXLE_BULLITT_19 said:-snip-
Lets be honest here, Bush didn't deserve a whole lot of respect, president or not.DrDeath3191 said:People didn't show the same respect to Bush.Zenode said:Was it possibly this one
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People have an opinion and they show it, they should at least respect the man who is running their county.
Being fair, that was because he exceeded his power.Aft3rShock said:Haha just like how Nixon was accused for being a crook for exercising his "presidential powers". But everyone knows he's totally innocent. *Cough* Sarcasm *Cough*Emphraim said:People think Obama is socialist because he is actually exercising his presidential powers.
As for the swine flu posters, all I can say is that a conspiracy is all around us! Swine flu is obviously caused by a galatic organization called the None Human Killers, also known as the NHK!
I know, I think people are a bit surprised that a president is doing what he said he would for once.shumped said:meh I don't get why so many people voted for him cause he promised change and of course when he wins and goes directly to changing the stuff he promised he's suddenly considered a communist/socialist
it's just weird. :/
First, it's not socialized healthcare, that would be the government directly taking control of Hospitals and directly employing every doctor, when all he wants to do is essentially give everyone health insurance.tsb247 said:Those posters may be just a weeeeeee bit excessive. However, I do share their point of view to an extent.
I am against big government (as the illustrators of those posters clearly are as well). I'm for regulation, but not outright, unquestionable, squeezing, rigid, control. Many Americans see socialized policies as such. Many Americans are against socialized healthcare (and other ideas/policies) not because they don't want people to have healthcare (or other benefits), but rather they are turned off by the history of Americans to abuse socialized systems such as welfare/social security.
Many are also under the delusion that we should work for, and earn, our way through life without a bunch of government aid. What a novel concept!
That is why so many call Obama a socialist. They don't want him to give handouts to people who may not deserve them. In the end, the taxpayers have to pay for it.
As I've stated in other threads, I'm all for making healthcare affordable (as I am assuming those are what the posters are referring to). I just don't see it as American to make it a government service at the expense of the taxpayers that can be abused by those who find a way.
Aren't we trying to re-invent the wheel? We have a system. It is broken, but there are ways it can be fixed, or at least regulated so that it can work.
Well that's my $0.02. I have a plane to catch.
If there are posters comparing him to Hitler, then I have lost even more faith in my countrymen. He can't be a socialist (far left) and be compared to Hitler (Fascism= far right). Ridiculous.metalmmaniac said:I've seen those posters, as well as some depicting him as Hitler. There have also been protesters at his speeches that carry guns. (i think it was Alabama, where its legal, as long as they aren't concealed.) People just like to shock people, i suppose.
And those are the double standards that make this country so beautiful. *rolls eyes* Topics like this infuriate me because, if I'm not mistaken, someone made one of George Bush and everyone called him a war criminal and yada-yada-yada. Yet, someone makes a sign like this and all of a sudden thats stepping over the line. Its pretty funny actually.AgentNein said:Lets be honest here, Bush didn't deserve a whole lot of respect, president or not.DrDeath3191 said:People didn't show the same respect to Bush.Zenode said:Was it possibly this one
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People have an opinion and they show it, they should at least respect the man who is running their county.
This is also a terrible attitude because without the people speaking up, there wouldn't be a country like we are living in today.Hallow said:He's president.
Live with it and shut the fuck up.
It's like going up to your mum and saying she's a ***** right after you were born.shumped said:meh I don't get why so many people voted for him cause he promised change and of course when he wins and goes directly to changing the stuff he promised he's suddenly considered a communist/socialist
it's just weird. :/
ok, Alabama was wrong, but it DID happen in Arizona. In that state, it is NOT illegal (thanks for the clarification, djpuppylove789). I bet secret service seriousy had their eyes all over them, which sucks because it could allow for too much distraction.Lunar Shadow said:Actually it's illegal as all hell. Not to mention most of the places he would visit were in blue counties and in the case of Montgomery, actually had a Democrat mayor turned Representative (Which sucks cause he was an awesome mayor)metalmmaniac said:I've seen those posters, as well as some depicting him as Hitler. There have also been protesters at his speeches that carry guns. (i think it was Alabama, where its legal, as long as they aren't concealed.) People just like to shock people, i suppose.
Unfortunately, here ya go. (I voted for Obama and definately am a supporter, not to get too much into this, but i don't quite agree with the posters) Oh yea, can't forget to throw in the reference that he's also the Anti-Christ! F'ing idiots...Unit Alpha said:If there are posters comparing him to Hitler, then I have lost even more faith in my countrymen. He can't be a socialist (far left) and be compared to Hitler (Fascism= far right). Ridiculous.
Just goes to show how much the American people are a bunch of thick media whores that will listen and believe anything coming out of whatever tube they may listen to. And when they find out they were lied to they get pissed and throw a tantrumn.... Makes me laugh.Fniff said:It's like going up to your mum and saying she's a ***** right after you were born.shumped said:meh I don't get why so many people voted for him cause he promised change and of course when he wins and goes directly to changing the stuff he promised he's suddenly considered a communist/socialist
it's just weird. :/