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Panzer_God

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Labyrinth said:
For my height I'm classed as overweight, by the way. I sure as hell don't have the muscle to contribute to that but I do have the 'flab' for lack of better term. It doesn't bother me any more to have that as I'm perfectly alright with it but other people seem to have grand issues with it, suggesting I try diets and the like. I've become rather pissed off with those wonderful people in clothing shops who have a habit of suggesting I get a smaller size and "just aim for it, y'know?"
Oh, not to mention the people who come across me in supermarkets and kindly give me directions to the diet aisles. Or the people that stop me in a baseball stadium and ask if I need help climbing the stairs. Or the people in restaurants who assume that I want either all french fries or all vegetables (depending on the server) Oh and let's not forget the people who seem to think that I want a salad whenever I go to a nice restaurant. I stopped going to clothing stores because of the people you talk about and when I do go there and I see those people I buy clothes a size or two too big just to piss them off. It seems that society has put fat people on par with smokers when it comes to deciding that they always need the advice of every smug asshole in the city.
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
It's like how stupid kids should be eliminated in order to reduce the burden on the school systems.
You're joking right? Just so I'm clear on that.
 

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Forced exchanges between Ethiopia and the fat population. Even up world hunger a little.
 

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chaocontrol6 said:
I agree, there are just some people that cannot be bothered and they should (and will) get a massive wake-up call when later on they have the health problems later on in life. I agree that those that are actually not contributing to society need a slap in the face.
I don't think there is a person who disagrees with that. However, I also believe that skinny people who contribute nothing to society need a kick in the rear while it seems like so many people equate being fat and being useless as being one and the same and that is what pisses me off.
FluffX said:
MaxTheReaper said:
It's like how stupid kids should be eliminated in order to reduce the burden on the school systems.
You're joking right? Just so I'm clear on that.
It's max, he's never serious (I think)

wordsmith said:
Forced exchanges between Ethiopia and the fat population. Even up world hunger a little.
I think all Ethiopians would die of overeating if they saw an American's refrigerator.
 

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Oh, not to mention the people who come across me in supermarkets and kindly give me directions to the diet aisles. Or the people that stop me in a baseball stadium and ask if I need help climbing the stairs. Or the people in restaurants who assume that I want either all french fries or all vegetables (depending on the server) Oh and let's not forget the people who seem to think that I want a salad whenever I go to a nice restaurant. I stopped going to clothing stores because of the people you talk about and when I do go there and I see those people I buy clothes a size or two too big just to piss them off. It seems that society has put fat people on par with smokers when it comes to deciding that they always need the advice of every smug asshole in the city.
Ohh! Don't forget the relatives or friends-of-friends who think that it's their God Given Duty to impart information to you about all the wondrous weightloss programmes they've seen. Or how to dress to make one appear slimmer. Or worse yet make direct implications that you look bad when you block them out and actually sit down to enjoy some food.
 

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Ohh! Don't forget the relatives or friends-of-friends who think that it's their God Given Duty to impart information to you about all the wondrous weightloss programmes they've seen. Or how to dress to make one appear slimmer. Or worse yet make direct implications that you look bad when you block them out and actually sit down to enjoy some food.
How could I forget them, I love them because those people I can turn on and give them a full tounge lashing without worry of being banned. And I'm not even going to start on those 'former fatties' on the commercials for the programs.
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stag3 said:
The perfect solution would be to just narrow the entrance to Mcdonalds
Why didnt anyone else think of this.
Because we'd widen the door by breaking the walls.
 

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stag3 said:
The perfect solution would be to just narrow the entrance to Mcdonalds
Why didnt anyone else think of this.
Because it won't work and is based off a piss-poor stereotype. I refuse to touch McDonalds, eat home-cooked meals 99% of the time which would be healthy by any standard aside from maybe Atkins. Does that make me thin? Fuck no.
 

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wow there's a lot of misguided hating by certain parties here. Some people are genetically disposed to being bigger than others, it happens, like how some people are naturally tall and others short.
think about it, taking the average height of men to be 5.11 the variation which is considered by a normal distribution (PLEASE NOTE: I mean Normal distribution, a statistical method of using a bell shaped curve to view data. NOT what I percieve as an 'acceptable' level)
means that between 5.4 and 6.3 are all viewed as being within the 95% percentile. only those heights that exceed those bounds would be considered to be 'unusual' i.e that only 5% of all men would be in those areas.

this is a range of almost a foot within which the average man's height lies. If you have agreed with my argument so far then surely it is reasonable to assume that peoples weight may fluctuate at least much as height. this means that an 'average' weight of around 75Kg for a 5.11 man may vary by as much as 15kg either way without exceeding the 95% percentile. yet a 90Kg man at 5.11 will often be seen as overweight

yes some people don't help themselves with a bad diet and no exercise, but there are plenty of skinny, lazy people who have a very similar sedentary lifestyle to heavier people yet receive no judgment over it.
 

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ShotgunShaman said:
Me and my brother were recently discussing the problem of obesity, and came up with a few clever ideas to help put an end to this "epidemic."

Idea 1: Clothing. Continue to make clothing as normal. But clothes can no longer be made in any size above XL.
Hopefully it would result in: obese people being forced to either lose the weight, walk around naked, or make their own clothes.

Idea 2: At any given gym, such as the YMCA, have exercise bikes hooked up to generators, obese people can get paid for using these bikes for a certain amount of time.
Hopefully it would result in: obese people get a workout, jobs are created in a bad economy, and a lower electric bill. These machines would also be available for home usage, perhaps with similar results.

Thoughts? Ideas of your own?

And this (hopefully) has the search bar seal of approval. In my ten second scan, I didn't see this thread.
Hooking up fat people to a generator isn't going to generate much electricity for the first few months I don't think...

And that first idea is stupid, I don't want to see some hideously obese person walking around naked or clothes they've made themselves with inadequate covering.

On the subject of clothes though, I do think they should pay more each size you go up. I'm a small in men's tops for example, but I've seen the same top 3 times as big in an XXL for example, yet for the same price. People have said it'd be discrimination for them to pay more, and that some people are musclier/taller or whatever so it's not fair on them, but why not?

Shoes cost more once you go over a certain size, it's the same with most things the bigger it is the more you pay. Admittedly the labour and material is cheap as sh*t for a shop to make, but they can still charge something like £20 (for most tops I buy) so it's not like it isn't already unrealistically priced.
 

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Panzer_God said:
chaocontrol6 said:
I agree, there are just some people that cannot be bothered and they should (and will) get a massive wake-up call when later on they have the health problems later on in life. I agree that those that are actually not contributing to society need a slap in the face.
I don't think there is a person who disagrees with that. However, I also believe that skinny people who contribute nothing to society need a kick in the rear while it seems like so many people equate being fat and being useless as being one and the same and that is what pisses me off.
Whenever someone decides it would be funny to bother me in a restraunt or a clothing store because of my size, I just gently tell them off. Except for one guy that just completely PISSED ME OFF beyond measure. I walked into a chinese restraunt and told my waiter I wanted some hot water to drink. I went to get my plate of food and came back. He was standing there with that smug ass look on his face and asked if I need 2 chairs. I promptly grabbed the almost boiling hot water and poured it directly on his head and left.

People like that just piss me off so god damn much....
 

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avykins said:
I buy clothes a size or two too big just to piss them off.
I always buy 5-6XL. I "fit" L-XL but it is not comfy so why bother?. Right now I am wearing a 6XL shirt which is soo big I can slip out the neck. ^-^
I can fit in mediums but the make me feel far more exposed then I like but I buy XXL or larger because of that smug grin on people when they think you're overweight.
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Panzer_God said:
chaocontrol6 said:
I agree, there are just some people that cannot be bothered and they should (and will) get a massive wake-up call when later on they have the health problems later on in life. I agree that those that are actually not contributing to society need a slap in the face.
I don't think there is a person who disagrees with that. However, I also believe that skinny people who contribute nothing to society need a kick in the rear while it seems like so many people equate being fat and being useless as being one and the same and that is what pisses me off.
Whenever someone decides it would be funny to bother me in a restraunt or a clothing store because of my size, I just gently tell them off. Except for one guy that just completely PISSED ME OFF beyond measure. I walked into a chinese restraunt and told my waiter I wanted some hot water to drink. I went to get my plate of food and came back. He was standing there with that smug ass look on his face and asked if I need 2 chairs. I promptly grabbed the almost boiling hot water and poured it directly on his head and left.

People like that just piss me off so god damn much....
Oh what I would've given to see that. In my family you would have left to a standing ovation. We really dislike assholishness. Unless it's us being mean to each other.
 

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On the subject of clothes though, I do think they should pay more each size you go up. I'm a small in men's tops for example, but I've seen the same top 3 times as big in an XXL for example, yet for the same price. People have said it'd be discrimination for them to pay more, and that some people are musclier/taller or whatever so it's not fair on them, but why not?

Shoes cost more once you go over a certain size, it's the same with most things the bigger it is the more you pay. Admittedly the labour and material is cheap as sh*t for a shop to make, but they can still charge something like £20 (for most tops I buy) so it's not like it isn't already unrealistically priced.
First off, you don't need to qoute the OP, everyone has read it already. Second off, prices do go up once you get past XXL. My dad's friend Eric has to pay over $100 for a pair of pants that cost me 15 bucks. And you think that's fair why?
 

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I'm sorry it took me so long to respond to what I would laughably call your argument, I simply couldn't stop alternating between laughing and baying for blood.

Now now, my blood's quite happy where it is thanks.

I don't even know where to start, you obviously know some pretty assholeish fat people if you think they take advantage of their conditions. Second off, they pay for their medical treatments, not you, unless they don't have enough money to have decent insurance in which case they are fat because they can't afford health food.

I live in the UK, it's different here. Everyone has the right to free treatment on the NHS, but that means taxpayers eventually foot the bill. So we are paying for everyone who is in a public hospotal. Regards the US system you still pay, that's a bed and a hospital's staff and time that could be used for something else. It'll also come back to you as insurance companies up their premiums to cover the costs to them.

As for taking advantage of their condition, that's not quite what I meant. When people get sick they expect to be treated, that's reasonable. It's that whilst they're relatively healthy they ignore the advice that could stop them getting sick in the first place.
It's hard to feel synpathy for someone who develops type 2 diabetes when they were being told they needed to lose weight or suffer the consequences for years.

To me that's madness, like if I went riding my bike without a helmet, yet thought it was somebody else's fault when I got a skull fracture.

3rd, all of the things you mentioned can happen to anyone, and anyone would react that way.

True, they could happen to anyone at any time. But the statistics say it's (much, much) more likely to happen if you are overweight. The conditions I mentioned are the ones most associated with obesity. It's been well proven and documented that being overweight not only increases the likelyhood of these happening but makes them worse.

Compared to a lifetime on insulin or half a million dollars worth of heart surgery four hours a week in the gym doesn't seem like a high price, yet millions would apparently chose the former and get mad when others call them out on it.

Going back to my bike analogy it's about taking reasonable precaution. If I go out helmeted and armoured up but still crash and break my collarbone, well that's just my bad luck. I took reasonable precautions against it, why is weight any different?

Saying it's bad is like saying that cervical cancer shouldn't get research money because only women get it and if they don't want it they need to change.

That's confusing what's within an individuals control and what isn't. Nobody chooses their gender, or to get cancer, or be in an accident, or to get old, they just happen and there's nothing you can do to stop them.

Being overweight isn't like that, it's something that's very simple to control. If a man comes in having drunk himself half to death or smoked until his lungs are shot, would you consider those out of his control or would you think he needed to MTFU and quit smoking/drinking?
Granted the practice is always harder than the theory, but anything worth doing is hard.

I would much rather money put into researching weight linked diseases went into encouraging children to take up excersize. It would be treating the cause instead of the symptoms.

As for the cost of keeping fit, running is cheap, so are circuits and footballs and frisbees and a hundred other sports. Healthy food is not so much about what you eat as how much and when. Vegetables are cheap, even in the US they're cheap. Having a smaller portion is cheap, not snacking between meals is cheap.

None of it's rocket science, yet people find it offensive when others question why they are fat. I don't get it, the reasons why it's bad are plain for all to see and the help is there and it's free. Yet they still get offended instead of helping themselves.
 

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johnx61 said:
I swear to god, the internet gaming community must consist of the most dazzlingly beautiful people in the freaking world.

Now that we have the sarcasm out of the way. I can actually say that I don't believe for one minute that any of you has a future career as a supermodel lined up, so why are you hating on people for being overweight?

Well it's easy to tell why, because society doesn't stop you from doing it. You can't make fun of people for their color, creed, age, nationality, gender, disabilities, sexual preferences or preferred brand of oatmeal.
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You're my favorite now, managing to insult these people and make legitimate points that I've been trying too make for hours all in one post. P.S.- I thought it was ok to discriminate based on Oatmeal, I hate those apple-and-cinnimoners
 

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I think that if we were all rounded up and worked to death doing inefficient manual labour with poor rations then this wouldn't be a problem. Everybody would be happy.