Any ideas for obesity?

[Jirlond]

Stop fucking eating so much and go outside (it's horrible, I know, I sympathize,) once in a while.

Honestly, obese people should get the same fate as smokers or alcoholics - no health care.
At all.

Yes, it can sometimes be genetic or whatever - but most of the time, it's a conscious choice. It's like how stupid kids should be eliminated in order to reduce the burden on the school systems.

Agreed

We do. If we need a transplant for some reason, our weight and health is taken into account!

 

[justnotcricket]

It's a tricky question. I think part of it is how tricky it is to define what 'obese' is - take two people of the same height, age and gender, for example. One person may be perfectly healthy at 20 kg over the 'normal' weight (a term which is a slippery slope at best), while the other may be perfectly helathy at 20 kg under the 'normal' weight. There's a difference between being medically obese and being visually very 'fat'. You can be thin as a rail and yet have cholesterol that would kill a horse, or be visibly overweight and live to be 100 with nary a hint of diabetes or heart disease.

How's this, I can grab probably two inches of fat on my upper arms yet have a normal level of cholesterol, a slightly above-average BMI and my doctor said that pound-for-pound I'm the healthiest person my weight group that he's ever seen.

Good for you =) I think that's the point I was trying rather laboriously to make. Weight does not correlate linearly with health (which I think is what Labyrinth was saying earlier, anyway). The kind of fat that's damaging to your health isn't so much the 'chicken wing' arm much-feared by girls, or equally the extra padding around the hips, or guys' love handles or 'man-boobs'. It's the fat that accumulates in the omentum, around the organs and the fatty deposits that form plaques in the endothelium of your arteries and eventually clog them up. That's why you can look 'overweight' or perhaps better put 'untoned' and still be healthy as you like, and look entirely 'average', even skinny, and be on the verge of a coronary. Stop worrying about your dress-size, people. It's your blood cholesterol you should be worrying about, if anything.

(Besides, BMI is meaningless. It tells you that a rugby player is about to die from being morbidly obese, just because the muscle bulk makes them heavier than expected for their height.)

 

[Panzer_God]

It's a tricky question. I think part of it is how tricky it is to define what 'obese' is - take two people of the same height, age and gender, for example. One person may be perfectly healthy at 20 kg over the 'normal' weight (a term which is a slippery slope at best), while the other may be perfectly helathy at 20 kg under the 'normal' weight. There's a difference between being medically obese and being visually very 'fat'. You can be thin as a rail and yet have cholesterol that would kill a horse, or be visibly overweight and live to be 100 with nary a hint of diabetes or heart disease.

How's this, I can grab probably two inches of fat on my upper arms yet have a normal level of cholesterol, a slightly above-average BMI and my doctor said that pound-for-pound I'm the healthiest person my weight group that he's ever seen.

Good for you =) I think that's the point I was trying rather laboriously to make. Weight does not correlate linearly with health (which I think is what Labyrinth was saying earlier, anyway). The kind of fat that's damaging to your health isn't so much the 'chicken wing' arm much-feared by girls, or equally the extra padding around the hips, or guys' love handles or 'man-boobs'. It's the fat that accumulates in the omentum, around the organs and the fatty deposits that form plaques in the endothelium of your arteries and eventually clog them up. That's why you can look 'overweight' or perhaps better put 'untoned' and still be healthy as you like, and look entirely 'average', even skinny, and be on the verge of a coronary. Stop worrying about your dress-size, people. It's your blood cholesterol you should be worrying about, if anything.

(Besides, BMI is meaningless. It tells you that a rugby player is about to die from being morbidly obese, just because the muscle bulk makes them heavier than expected for their height.)

OMG science, run away!!!!

 

[Panzer_God]

Finally someone brings up the history of fatness. Like he said, being fat used to be a sign of power and wealth, before that it meant that you were powerful enough to not have to go to war and before that it kept us from freezing our asses off when it got cold out.

 

[Thyunda]

It's a tricky question. I think part of it is how tricky it is to define what 'obese' is - take two people of the same height, age and gender, for example. One person may be perfectly healthy at 20 kg over the 'normal' weight (a term which is a slippery slope at best), while the other may be perfectly helathy at 20 kg under the 'normal' weight. There's a difference between being medically obese and being visually very 'fat'. You can be thin as a rail and yet have cholesterol that would kill a horse, or be visibly overweight and live to be 100 with nary a hint of diabetes or heart disease.

How's this, I can grab probably two inches of fat on my upper arms yet have a normal level of cholesterol, a slightly above-average BMI and my doctor said that pound-for-pound I'm the healthiest person my weight group that he's ever seen.

Good for you =) I think that's the point I was trying rather laboriously to make. Weight does not correlate linearly with health (which I think is what Labyrinth was saying earlier, anyway). The kind of fat that's damaging to your health isn't so much the 'chicken wing' arm much-feared by girls, or equally the extra padding around the hips, or guys' love handles or 'man-boobs'. It's the fat that accumulates in the omentum, around the organs and the fatty deposits that form plaques in the endothelium of your arteries and eventually clog them up. That's why you can look 'overweight' or perhaps better put 'untoned' and still be healthy as you like, and look entirely 'average', even skinny, and be on the verge of a coronary. Stop worrying about your dress-size, people. It's your blood cholesterol you should be worrying about, if anything.

(Besides, BMI is meaningless. It tells you that a rugby player is about to die from being morbidly obese, just because the muscle bulk makes them heavier than expected for their height.)

I have manboobs. Well. One. Well, kind of two. One's from a medical condition, and the other just wants to match. I swear. And I wish I had the padding on the hips. Mine jut forward far too much.

 

[Panzer_God]

I have manboobs. Well. One. Well, kind of two. One's from a medical condition, and the other just wants to match. I swear. And I wish I had the padding on the hips. Mine jut forward far too much.

I have five

 

[TankCopter]

Drink black coffee. I started drinking my coffee black the other week and lost weight for it :3

 

[Thyunda]

I have manboobs. Well. One. Well, kind of two. One's from a medical condition, and the other just wants to match. I swear. And I wish I had the padding on the hips. Mine jut forward far too much.

I have five

I reckon you'd have a good career as a male stripper. Shave, and don't tell them you're male till the end.

 

[DANGERECTION]

I usually consider someone as obese when they get to the point of their gender not being clear because of the weight. When you get that large you're probably 100% more at risk for a lot of the problems linked with obesity

But, I'm skeptical about the whole "Epidemic" idea of it. Maybe because I have a habit of playing The Devils Advocate on things-- But, really, Whenever something gets sensational news reporting I tend to not want to buy into it.

Being Fat is now likened with the lower class, and when things get associated with the lower class they tend to get banned. It happened with marijuana, it happened with cigarettes, and now its happening with people's bodies.

I get the feeling if chubsters weren't made fun of as much they'd be more willing to be involved with things that promote a "Healthy Lifestyle"-- I live in a state that has a moderate amount of fatties and a couple fat friends, and theres a big element of feeling chastised to their daily lives and I think its kind of sad that I can't really ask them to go swimming with me, or even to go to the mall-- I can go browsing for clothes in just about every store and if they're lucky they can find decent things in about one or two... They're constantly bombarded with "GET OUT AND GO" and then "YOU'RE WORTHLESS AND NO ONE WANTS TO LOOK AT YOU"

I think a change in attitude about people who are overweight would help them become more mentally healthy and get their bodies healthier. To be Honest, I think the Obesity epidemic has given hateful people the golden ticket to be total douchenozzles about it.

At one point I was told that when people give the "Well, its not healthy"-- it doesn't sting any less than your average fatty insult.

 

[Pimppeter2]

Your ideas suck.

First of all people who are really muscular wouldn't be able to have clothing, and since they weigh in the catagory of fat because they weigh alot do to their muscles they can do the exercise bike all day.

 

[Panzer_God]

I have manboobs. Well. One. Well, kind of two. One's from a medical condition, and the other just wants to match. I swear. And I wish I had the padding on the hips. Mine jut forward far too much.

I have five

I reckon you'd have a good career as a male stripper. Shave, and don't tell them you're male till the end.

How did you know. I've done that for years.

 

[justnotcricket]

OMG science, run away!!!!

*evil laugh*...*brandishes test tube*

 

[Panzer_God]

Your ideas suck.

First of all people who are really muscular wouldn't be able to have clothing, and since they weigh in the catagory of fat because they weigh alot do to their muscles they can do the exercise bike all day.

Ok, seriously, when you're post 150, you need to read at least a few of the earlier comments.

OMG science, run away!!!!

*evil laugh*...*brandishes test tube*

But mommy, I don't want to go on the cart. I DON'T WANT ANOTHER EYE!!! Also, we got offtopic

 

[VeX1le]

wow so many people saying that just stop fucking eating and run. actually fuck it whatever i will say most of you wont listen and most of it is already posted.

 

[Thyunda]

I have manboobs. Well. One. Well, kind of two. One's from a medical condition, and the other just wants to match. I swear. And I wish I had the padding on the hips. Mine jut forward far too much.

I have five

I reckon you'd have a good career as a male stripper. Shave, and don't tell them you're male till the end.

How did you know. I've done that for years.

You, sir, are a genius.

 

[Panzer_God]

wow so many people saying that just stop fucking eating and run. actually fuck it whatever i will say most of you wont listen and most of it is already posted.

Finally, I like you sir, for realizing how monumentally stupid it wold be to repeat what has been said over a dozen times already.

 

[pirateninj4]

Stop fucking eating so much and go outside (it's horrible, I know, I sympathize,) once in a while.

Honestly, obese people should get the same fate as smokers or alcoholics - no health care.
At all.

Yes, it can sometimes be genetic or whatever - but most of the time, it's a conscious choice. It's like how stupid kids should be eliminated in order to reduce the burden on the school systems.

Yes I totally agree with the first part, but not so much with the last part. Being 'obese' is an unhealthy way to be overweight and it is mostly caused by the totally shit diet and lack of exercise in a persons life. However, when most of the food readily available in supermarkets and stores is advertised as being healthy but actually isn't, it's no wonder that they get that way in the first place. Couple this with the huge rise in fast food eaten on a regular basis and you got your fatties all lined up.

In order for this to change, people need to be educated PROPERLY. Not by the television, or the corporations but by actual diet experts. The ones who actually know that milk is bad for you. And that just because Lucky Charm cereal says it has vitamins and minerals and fibre, doesn't mean it's bio-available to you because of all the shit they wrap it up in. Educate, then make PROPER health food cheaper and more available to the general public. When you can buy 10 for 10 dollars of some processed shit versus 1 box of something healthy, why would they choose health?

That's my 10 cents.

 

[Thyunda]

I have manboobs. Well. One. Well, kind of two. One's from a medical condition, and the other just wants to match. I swear. And I wish I had the padding on the hips. Mine jut forward far too much.

I have five

I reckon you'd have a good career as a male stripper. Shave, and don't tell them you're male till the end.

Assuming that he worked at some kind of an alien strip club. And that's Star Wars-alien, not illegal immigrant-alien.

Naw - All men follow that rule. The more the better. And five boobs is like a threesome - AND THEN SOME!