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ProfessorLayton

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Not all rap is bad, just the idiotic mainstream autotune crap that constantly floods the radio these days. It's like they don't even try. I'm more into rap that actually focuses on the lyrics instead of repeating the same lyrics over and over again.


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what.twitch

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I can't say you're any more of a degenerate than I am. I listen to quite a bit of rap and hip-hop when the moment suits - just...not generally american rap. I like stuff like Hilltop Hoods.
 

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When I think of classics of the genre, I tend to think more of the Sugarhill Gang, Public Enemy, Afrika Bambaataa, Grandmaster Flash and all the rest like that. I'm a fan of modern day alternative hip hop too, as it focuses less on the genre stereotypes, and has its roots in the social dissent of the groups of the mid 90s.

But yes, I too scoff at philistines that say rap and hip hop have nothing musical to contribute to society. Generally, genres are much too wide to simply dismiss outright.

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I don't like Rap, because a lot of it is just playing with Cubasic to create a nice loop and than speak some bullsh*t over it. Or, if you're really lazy, just "sample" somebody else's loops. Sure, there are a couple of Rap tracks (I won't call something a song that didn't bother to include a melody) that are fun, but in the grand scheme of things, it's rubbish.

How many Rap tracks from 2002 are still played on the radio today? Or from 1996? Rap is not music like that of The Beatles, Stevie Wonder, Elvis Presley or Beethoven, Mozart, Wagner. Contemporary Rap music will not be listened to in 40 years, because it's disposable. You listen to it for a couple of days, weeks, maybe months and then throw it out. As such, it's much closer to Twitter than Art.
Why don't you tell us how many rap tracks are still played on the radio today? Seeing as how most major metropolitan areas cater to many different crowds, I'd say there are likely a number of radio stations in most major cities that do.

And I often enjoy how people speculate that old rock 'n' roll, for all it's piracy, (you are aware that popular bands of the 50s onwards furiously ripped off old jazz and blues musicians and "whitened" the music up, right?) is somehow more original then techno and hip hop since they rely on sampling. All music relies on a certain brand of sampling, I hate to inform you, since all music is inspired from music that came before it. Sampling is just a literal translation of this process.

And how do you what is going to be around and what other types of music won't? This type of idiotic pop culture snobbery is a rather misguided attitude and if I had to wager, I think none of it is going to be around far in the future.
 

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Not a "Degenerate" for liking rap music... though maybe another word that begins with "D"...
douchebag?

Lol, I kid. Rap has it's place, some people got pissed that there was a rap piece for the end credits for COD4, I thought it fit perfectly.

You know the old saying "90% of everything is crap" well that definitely applies to rap music only rap music seems to be different in that the shit 90% is loved by "Rap fans" more than the 10% that is any damn good.

I mean just because you can get words to rhyme and with rhythm... that DOESN'T make ANYTHING you say any more profound or interesting, even though it may give the illusion it does. Rappers say they are poets... well I think poets are stuck-up pretentious gits. Adding the characteristics of being rich, foul mouthed and violent to that isn't going to make them any more endearing... overall that is.
 

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The only rap music I like is the old stuff. Eminem, Dr Dre, DMX, 2Pac and P.Diddy. And Black Eyed Peas.
 

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Hellz_Barz said:
Zeithri said:
I'd say that 99% of all Rapmusic sucks ***.
I would not call you a degenerate of Society though, that's what I am for not having a job, not wanting a job and thinking that society at large sucks. I would only say that your taste in music is extreamly bad though :p
how about we say 99% of commercial rap music sucks? cause even real rap fans would agree with you on that.
They probably don't even know what "commercial" means.

[small]Hurray for stereotypes![/small]
 

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like yahtzee, I believe that 99% of everything is shite, and everything must pass muster beforebeing declared "not shite". a lot of rap music is shite, and few artists are worth a damn, but the same is true of country, pop, rock, etc, etc. so they few non shite artists look bad by comparison. for every one run dmc or eminem, etc there are fifteen souljaboys, etc, etc, ad infinitum.

Try not to let haters get to you. its what they do.
 

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AdambotLive said:
Because i listen to rap music.

Really, why do people critisize a genre so much that they will refuse to listen to it at all? Eminem and Jay-Z have done some amazing songs, such as "Stan", "Empire state of mind" and "'Till I collapse"

And let's not forget the classics. Who can't remember Run-DMC, MC hammer and sir mix-a-lot?



The point of this post is; not ALL rap music is bad. RnB, however, is the real scum of society :)
I love rap music. Especially the classics, as the ones you listed above.
Also , I hate metal and I know that alot of people listen to it , but I never bash it in a conversation about music.
We can all get along.

And btw, you..I mean we are not degenerates of society. Emos are../joke
 

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I used to hear a lot Eminem when he used to rap about serious issues then he got all Ass like that and i stopped listening to him.

Best rap song ever BTW:

 

Doctor Glocktor

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"Rap music is nothing but guns, whores, money, and killing whores with guns for money."

I dare you to tell me that's not true for 90% of rap.
 

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I definitely agree. I don't really care for rap (I don't understand half the words), but a song being rap doesn't make it anything like Soulja Boy's songs.
 

Zildjin81

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The last sentence made all of my sympathy and all of your post's credibility disappear.
 

GeekFury

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Only rap music I listen to is House of Pain and MC Chris, rest is just about bitches, Pimps and Ho's.
 

tomtom94

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The vast majority of rap is a stream of lyrics spoken too quickly for the mind to keep up with over a backing track, occasionally breaking into music.
It's not music.
HOWEVER
Everyone has the right to like and listen to whatever they like. A 'degenerate of society' is going a bit too far.
 

SextusMaximus

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You're opinion doesn't matter, you hypocrite.

Allow me to valdate that statement: RnB is accepted as less scum than Rap (even though many people consider it scum). Rap is considered less of music, but more poetry which is demeaning to women and encourages drugs and violence. (Not all rap, just the majority). So when you say Rap is cool, whereas RnB is scum, you're hypocritical of the world's general judgement and all the reasons you could possibly like rap (all two of them, yes).

If you want to seek favour among the people, don't spreading the word of crazy, high men with guns, a metronome and a book of rhyming slang.
 

UnusualStranger

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AdambotLive said:
Because i listen to rap music.

Really, why do people critisize a genre so much that they will refuse to listen to it at all? Eminem and Jay-Z have done some amazing songs, such as "Stan", "Empire state of mind" and "'Till I collapse"

And let's not forget the classics. Who can't remember Run-DMC, MC hammer and sir mix-a-lot?

The point of this post is; not ALL rap music is bad. RnB, however, is the real scum of society :)
Black and White arguments are Black and White.

Of course not ALL rap is bad, just like not ALL killing is bad. Over generalization.

However, there is a very good reason rap is considered the worst of music sets.

1. &$%*@%#@!$#$@ (or Cursing) Many Rap songs have a slew of slurs and other such things that just sounds like a string of profanity with music behind it. That isn't music, its scum.

2. (The Topic) Many raps seem to run on being gangsta, prostitution, drugs, and other topics that not only sound bad when put to a musical tone, but also sound bad when you just discuss them plainly. People don't think highly on such topics, and don't expect to get great treatment when that is what they hear you like most.

3. (The Stars) Those who are singing rap are often not the best of people. This especially can show through whenever they bother to give a statement or an opinion, and especially when they show up in the news, being shot at, or caught doing drugs. Illegal or suspicious behavior is often met by the populace with more suspicion and distaste.
 

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Zeithri said:
I'd say that 99% of all Rapmusic sucks ***.
I would not call you a degenerate of Society though, that's what I am for not having a job, not wanting a job and thinking that society at large sucks. I would only say that your taste in music is extreamly bad though :p
99% of all music sucks as far as I'm concerned, and that's being generous.

The only songs I get now are ones I get from iTunes after hearing it in an advert, tv programme, youtube video etc. and then looking it up to see if I want to buy it. I also took all of my dad's CDs (and he has a varied taste), listened to all of them and only put about 100-200 tracks on my MP3 (and considering my dad's collection that is a tiny proportion).

Oh, and does William Shatner's spoken word stuff count as rapping because (call me sad) I thought his cover of Common People was better than the original.