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FarleShadow said:
ah fuck it, its a three page thread and its prolly already been said
crap. I was going to quote what you said and reply but then I refreshed... oh well, as long as no one else has to read that Sh**.

also, I can kinda understand what you are going through, since I have felt that way all my life. I keep going on doing everything my parents tell me to so that they won't have me committed, which is what they've threatened to do... I don't even know why, I act as normal as I can... whatever...
 

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Smiles said:
FarleShadow said:
ah fuck it, its a three page thread and its prolly already been said
crap. I was going to quote what you said and reply but then I refreshed... oh well, as long as no one else has to read that Sh**.
Yeah, I said 'Leave that attention whore', take a ticket *****, we got a line here.
 

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This strikes rather close to home, recently I have been working through the same situation myself. I too have extreme depression with constant suicidal thoughts, I have gone as far as planning it and possessing the tools to complete the task, but never enacting it. I also am a extreme Atheist. There is no purpose to life other than to enjoy it though, I struggle daily to find reasons to actually enjoy it, but that is what keeps me going. If she needs someone to bounce ideas off of, drop me a e-mail brow6565@yahoo.com. I know its hard, I recently spent almost a week of not leaving my room, I live in my own apartment, and could have went into any other room but had no ambition to. Therapy does help, and I work in a Pharmacy and have always been opposed to drugs also.

Glad to know I am not the only one,

Brian
 

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FarleShadow said:
Smiles said:
FarleShadow said:
ah fuck it, its a three page thread and its prolly already been said
crap. I was going to quote what you said and reply but then I refreshed... oh well, as long as no one else has to read that Sh**.
Yeah, I said 'Leave that attention whore', take a ticket *****, we got a line here.
I'm not exactly asking for attention, considering that we are in a thread about depression/atheism/meaning of life, I thought I'd best stick to the subject. you don't have to come in here just to say that, you are more of an attention whore than I.
 

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i too concider myself athiest, but i still find the way to go on with life. that purpose is that somehow somthing will happen to me after death, not judement by a god, but a judement from the people that i sourounded myself with. tell her to strive to make the people around herself happy, then she herself will be happy and will stop thinking about all of the bad things going on around her.
 

FarleShadow

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I'm not exactly asking for attention, considering that we are in a thread about depression/atheism/meaning of life, I thought I'd best stick to the subject. you don't have to come in here just to say that, you are more of an attention whore than I.
Yeah, I said that I'd only read the first page (And that pretty much was the first few posts by the depressed boyfriend du jour) and that the remaining post was only advice for the needy, co-dependant and that was, in my own words, fucking stupid. Then deleted said passage because it had somehow transended the realms of the first page, ending up on the third page, which is largely left to the extreme posters and those guys who even the fanboys don't associate with.

If I wasn't so drunk, I'd just stop talking in the middle of a sent
 

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sabotstarr said:
i too concider myself athiest, but i still find the way to go on with life. that purpose is that somehow somthing will happen to me after death, not judement by a god, but a judement from the people that i sourounded myself with. tell her to strive to make the people around herself happy, then she herself will be happy and will stop thinking about all of the bad things going on around her.
And then what? The problem won't go away so long as that sense of finality is there. Its always good to make others happy but from the sound of it shes not going to see any point in it at this state because in her mind, well, its all dust in the wind. I don't know if you mean judgement as in people at your funeral talking about you or something else, but frankly in her state of mind I doubt it will matter much. When your dead your dead, that is it. If there is not something after what is the point?

She is going to need to at least have a hope that something more is out there, anything more, or I doubt shes going to be able to pull out of this, at least not for a long time.
 

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Wow, this is basically me of the opposite sex.

I don't have a solution, but I'd like to know if you find one. I'm sick of this farce. I'm sick of having to act like I'm happy, trying to convince others, but most importantly: myself, that I am content. I want to get out of this spiral of either being depressed or numb.

Maybe I do have one piece of advise. Ask her what it is precisely which makes her feel like this. Is it a fear of dying? Is it just that she thinks that living in an apathetic universe means there's no meaning? Or is there something else about the situation that causes it? I think it would be much easier to 'treat' this, if you know what exactly causes the entire situation.
 

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EVERYONE'S life is meaningless, but that doesn't MEAN that you should make yourself feel like shit about it.
 

Greever

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Perception in itself provides meaning. If you weren't able to consciously observe the world around you then you would have no purpose. Just the fact that you are aware of your own existence and the fact that you exist should make you happy. Does a tree have such a luxury?

Live, observe, smile, die, contribute, change. (in your own order)
 

TerraMGP

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Greever said:
Perception in itself provides meaning. If you weren't able to consciously observe the world around you then you would have no purpose. Just the fact that you are aware of your own existence and the fact that you exist should make you happy. Does a tree have such a luxury?

Live, observe, smile, die, contribute, change. (in your own order)
And then? If that does end up helping her thats fine but that kind of mentality is usually not as comforting in that situation, especially if its led to depression. Whatever path she needs, its going to be one she needs to find herself.
 

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TerraMGP said:
Greever said:
Perception in itself provides meaning. If you weren't able to consciously observe the world around you then you would have no purpose. Just the fact that you are aware of your own existence and the fact that you exist should make you happy. Does a tree have such a luxury?

Live, observe, smile, die, contribute, change. (in your own order)
And then? If that does end up helping her thats fine but that kind of mentality is usually not as comforting in that situation, especially if its led to depression. Whatever path she needs, its going to be one she needs to find herself.
Or maybe she just needs some kind of self-worth instilled in her? If she feels her only purpose is to die why would she be happy?
 

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Greever said:
TerraMGP said:
Greever said:
Perception in itself provides meaning. If you weren't able to consciously observe the world around you then you would have no purpose. Just the fact that you are aware of your own existence and the fact that you exist should make you happy. Does a tree have such a luxury?

Live, observe, smile, die, contribute, change. (in your own order)
And then? If that does end up helping her thats fine but that kind of mentality is usually not as comforting in that situation, especially if its led to depression. Whatever path she needs, its going to be one she needs to find herself.
Or maybe she just needs some kind of self-worth instilled in her? If she feels her only purpose is to die why would she be happy?
Because in this state she may not feel worth in anything, self or otherwise, with the realization that everything is finite looming over her. Not everyone can be happy with the temporary, not everyone can function that way. It really sounds like the kind of crushing despair one can feel when it dawns on them that things will always go away and that all the things you feel will go away. How do you gain feelings of self worth when reality in and of itself seems utterly worthless?
 

Greever

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1. Get a new therapist.

2. Get a new boyfriend.

3. Stop listening to emo and wear looser pants.

4. Find God.

5. Lose God.

6. Find more people who hate life and start listening to emo and wearing tighter pants.

7. Go find another Off-topic forum to find better answers on how to live your life happily...?

I don't have all the answers, only most of them.
 

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singularapathy said:
So, my girlfriend and I are both atheists, and we both have similar outlooks on life (i.e., there's no real 'purpose' to existence anymore than there is a purpose for a tree, beyond self-perpetuation and the survival of the gene). Whereas I view this in almost an absurdist and humored way, it's made her extremely nihilistic. She sees no reason to go on, and has become incredibly depressed without any purpose.

She has told me she doesn't feel anything but poorly (what I mean by that is that she feels numb, for the most part, or just 'bad'), and that without a modicum of control (her therapist has tried getting her to recognize that much of life is beyond her control; I agree, I told her a lot of life may involve planning, but that 'rolling with the punches' and HOW you react to a situation is what matters) she feels lost and worthless. She doesn't even know what makes her happy, anymore. She gets up in the morning only because she doesn't want to make anyone else suffer if she doesn't. It's killing me, because I care about her so much, but I have no idea what else I can offer her beyond her own happiness (she says nothing inertly makes her happy, beyond helping others-- and her psychologist apparently said she needs to figure out what makes her happy APART from that) and her life as it is.

This is further complicated by the fact that she refuses medication (in the past, it really screwed with her).

I offered her the quote by Dawkins that put my life a bit into perspective about the sand grains of Arabia, but even that hasn't affected her. I'm at a loss, and I'm hoping one of you can give me something that I might not be properly thinking of. Please.
Doesn't sound like a problem of metaphysics to me.

Sounds more like she needs a change of environment or something new to do. Is she fulfilled with her schooling/job?

-- Alex
 

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singularapathy said:
Rankao,

+SNIP+ She is never content with not knowing*SNIP*
tell her life is worth living to find the answers to what she does not know. therefore making her content and giving her something to do.
 

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I am astonished how many people here say that life has no meaning and are happy about it.

OP: My girlfriend thinks that life has no meaning. I need help.
Post: Here's my help: Life has no meaning.

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