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AdamRBi

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Nope, didn't like the movie.

Saw it once in 2D, only liked one character and that was the combat pilot Trudy. The rest of the cast seemed to never really develop over the course of the film.

And I won't mock the film for being unoriginal, because it had a lot of interesting ideas. Some really alien in concept, even for an alien planet.

It was poorly handled though. It's hype was bigger then the movie itself. It had stunning graphics yes, but if it wasn't for the marketing and pedigree behind the film and it's director it wouldn't of come close to doing as well as it did.

I think that's why a lot of people are angry and bash the film. It's highest box office gross record is being portrayed as a representation of how good the film is when the truth is it's not because it is a good movie, it's because it had a huge hype machine behind it. Same reason Transformers and Star Trek had such success.
 

Julianking93

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Furburt said:
Sassafrass said:
May pick it up when it gets cheaper and I can find it.
Twas a good movie and I think it'll be worth watching again. Just wish I saw it in 3D. *Sad face*
They're re-releasing it in July I think, it's going in cinemas in 3D with an extra 15-20 minutes of footage.
So it's now going to be 5 hours long?
 

anian

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Superior Mind said:
Thanks Anian, for having such faith in my own ablity to reason with myself.

... can't you like it for being what it was: a humdrum piece of film-making and storytelling that happened to have some wicked-bad special effects?
Why would I like something I find dull and boring, lacking in variety (humdrum you said)? Or are you trying to change my ability to reason with myself? Heh.

This would still be a good movie if it had a lower budget? That's bull, you know what it would be? Something along a Steven Segal movie or similar. You can paint a trash can into anything you want, there's still garbage inside.

Kick-ass special effects? Kind off, it had technical and perfect execution and production of effects, design wise...not so much. Same as the story side of the movie, copied from all over the place. Again, wouldn't mind the influence or inspiration, but direct copying and done in other movies better.

But this kind of disscusions are like turning somebody to another religion - pointless, useless and tiring.
 

Vrex360

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Well, I know what DVD I plan to rent in the near future.

Seriously, regardless of all the hate towards it, I still enjoyed it immensly.
 

lapan

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I already saw it in cinema. Maybe in a few years, when the memories of the movie fades.
 

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QuickDEMOL1SHER said:
In response to the whole "It's just Dances with Smurfs" thing, I don't really care that much. What killed it for me was a mix between boring characters, IN YOUR FACE ecology message and bad guys that were so hilariously overdone that by the end I was actually rooting for the RDA.
It's always a bad sign when you start routing for the bad guys by the end of the movie....

Cody211282 said:
OT: Am I like the only person who refused to see this movie?
I never actually watched it, since it looked like total crap. In any case, wasn't District 9 freaking fantastic?
 

Proverbial Jon

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Superior Mind said:
Point is, Avatar didn't rape your sister.
I have to say, I lol'd!

But this is a good point, why does everyone seem so offended by this movie? You act as if its very existence somehow degrades the quality of your lives. Seriously, if you hate the film so much, why do you all spend so much time here telling us!

By the title of this thread I gathered it was for people looking forward to the release, not for the beginning of a flame war. I don't go and stand in a dvd store telling people not to buy a certain title because I hated it. That would be somewhat hypocritical in its very nature no?

Julianking93 said:
So it's now going to be 5 hours long?
Slight exaggeration there! I never once thought about how long the film was. My first viewing went so fast I hardly believed I had been sitting for 3 hours (the film with 20 mins of bloody adverts)

Then again the infinitely fabulous TLOTR: Return of the King was dragging by the last half hour. Go figure.
 

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Actually, I have honestly no idea either. I really don't know why some people are so offended by it. Because it was a big budgeted special effects film that made a lot of money? They've been existing ever since there was special effects in the first place! If you don't like it, why spend so much of your time badmouthing it? Just because it's around and made a lot of money doesn't make the films you watch any less great.

So what, you didn't like it? I didn't like the Blind Side, so I pushed it out of my memory, and avoided places where I'd have to talk about it, because I don't want to waste precious brain cells thinking about that waste of time. But some of the people, you'd swear they went to see Avatar just so they could complain about it.

So yeah, the reason why some people develop reactions similar to those people would get after learning that someone had killed their pets is beyond me. It's a dumb popcorn movie, it's for sitting down for 3 hours, shutting off your brain, and enjoying for what it is. It's not a fucking Isaac Asimov novel, so stop judging it like it is one!

Jesus, you didn't see Flash Gordon get this kind of scrutiny.
It's the same with absolutely anything in the world. If there is an issue, a subject, be it tv or cinema or something more important that affects your local city/town/village you will find that every single person who is opposed towards it will make some noise. But do you ever hear from the supporters? No, they are happy and content and they keep quiet because it suits them.

Luckily the fans of Avatar have spoken and they have made it the highest grossing film ever made, which generally means LOTS of people went to see it. Granted, that was probably only half the number actually seeing it multiple times, but even so...

People tend to hate things because they are popular, because if they liked it too, they would be following the crowd. Not true, I like Avatar because I choose to, NOT because everyone else does. I flat out refused to buy MW2 when it came out, simply because everyone else was buying it. A few months later I bought it preowned and quite enjoyed the single player campaign, thus was proven wrong. I wasn't in it for the multiplayer, that's just not ma thang.

But my point stands, hype does not maketh/breaketh something. Just go in with an open mind and let it flow! I am also not against all these people who hate it, you're welcome to hate. Please just don't insist that we must also hate it. Thanks.
 

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Misterpinky said:
Cody211282 said:
OT: Am I like the only person who refused to see this movie?
I never actually watched it, since it looked like total crap. In any case, wasn't District 9 freaking fantastic?
That movie was awesome, if not a bit depressing.
 

Hobonicus

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Furburt said:
Proverbial Jon said:
But this is a good point, why does everyone seem so offended by this movie? You act as if its very existense somehow degrades the quality of your lives. Seriously, if you hate the film so much, why do you all spend so much time here telling us!

By the title of this thread I gathered it was for people looking forward to the release, not for the beginning of a flame war. I don't go and stand in a dvd store telling people not to buy a certain title because I hated it. That would be somewhat hypocitical in its very nature no?
Actually, I have honestly no idea either. I really don't know why some people are so offended by it. Because it was a big budgeted special effects film that made a lot of money? They've been existing ever since there was special effects in the first place! If you don't like it, why spend so much of your time badmouthing it? Just because it's around and made a lot of money doesn't make the films you watch any less great.

So what, you didn't like it? I didn't like the Blind Side, so I pushed it out of my memory, and avoided places where I'd have to talk about it, because I don't want to waste precious brain cells thinking about that waste of time. But some of the people, you'd swear they went to see Avatar just so they could complain about it.

So yeah, the reason why some people develop reactions similar to those people would get after learning that someone had killed their pets is beyond me. It's a dumb popcorn movie, it's for sitting down for 3 hours, shutting off your brain, and enjoying for what it is. It's not a fucking Isaac Asimov novel, so stop judging it like it is one!

Jesus, you didn't see Flash Gordon get this kind of scrutiny.
Not to be personally offensive, I know you?re a smart guy (and I love your sig :p), but I see this argument all the time from people who can?t actually formulate a real discussion. People who loved the movie think the ones who hated it should just shut up and stop bashing it, but there?s really no reason why. Why should only those who loved it be encouraged to sing praise while those who hated it stay silent and move on with their lives. It?s an attack on the person, not the argument. The effort needed to hate something has been seriously overrated here, and so has the time taken to badmouth it. This is something I?d explain to a kid who doesn?t understand how society works outside his own views, but I?m sure you get my point.

Anyway, I?ve explained why the movie is so offensive to me on this thread already. It?s extremely arrogant. They spent millions of unnecessary dollars to make something mediocre. As I said before, as a movie it was okay, nothing special. But as the ?revolutionary? highest grossing movie of all time? Damn right it?s influenced my life. You?d argue that I should focus on just my own life and pretend I live in a cave somewhere with my hands on my ears pretending I?m too aloof to think about anything but myself. We?re very social beings, and it does depress me that people gush over this severely overrated movie, that James Cameron (who does deserve praise for most of his other movies) becomes more of a movie legend for this film he took ten years to write and never even saw any of it until it was 75% done.

I don?t like how this is such a defining movie of our time, because like you said it?s just a popcorn flick. I wouldn?t treat it with such disdain if others wouldn?t treat it with such admiration. I hope I?ve helped ease your confusion a bit.
 

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I don't find any purpose in seeing it on a regular TV. Honestly I have no desire to watch it again at all. Yeah it was somewhat enjoyable, but it wasn't something that I was dying to get my hands on.
 

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Soushi said:
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Soushi said:
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Soushi said:
YOu know, its funny, the more popular somehting is, the more vocal the people who don't like it are. In fact, i have seen more people just be blatantly rude to people who liked the movie than anywhere else. It makes for some interesting discussions, but man does it ever get tedious after a while. No biggy though, everybody is entitled to thier own opinion. Besides, hate doesn't last as long as enjoyment. Soon the Avatar haters will find somehting else to do or hate, and we fans will be left in peace.
Nope, I'll always consider Avatar exactly what it is. Shit wrapped up in a beautiful box, complete with bow and matching Sci-Fi paper. At least, unless it does me a favor and just dies.

Regardless, I'm not generally one to hate on a movie without my reasons. It's boring, poorly written, poorly acted, boring, the action was lame, and it's nothing we haven't seen before.

But that's just my opinion.
*sigh* and this is exaclty what i mean. Yes, you are entitled to your own opinion, but you went out of your way to try and start a fight. I will not indulge you, and will merely say: Yes, you are entitled to your own opinion, even though it is totally wrong.
You went out of your way to imply that we are blatantly rude simply because we dislike a movie you like. Both parties are equally responsible. My post was simply a rebuttal.

Besides, why should you care? Haters gonna' hate. Especially on the internet.
Well... my point was supposed to be that the hate for Avatar seems especially bad. Besides, i merely pointed out the concept, you went out ofyour way to put in particulars. It has nothing to do with wether or not i like or dislike Avatar, i jsut don;t like it when people go after things that other people like period, i prefer it is people who like something could talk without people who don't like something trying to chip in thier two cents and fouling things up. Oh well, you are right, haters are gonna hate, no matter what. I don;t understand it myself, i try to keep an open mind and leave people alone, but there you
Soushi said:
SniperWolf427 said:
Soushi said:
SniperWolf427 said:
Soushi said:
YOu know, its funny, the more popular somehting is, the more vocal the people who don't like it are. In fact, i have seen more people just be blatantly rude to people who liked the movie than anywhere else. It makes for some interesting discussions, but man does it ever get tedious after a while. No biggy though, everybody is entitled to thier own opinion. Besides, hate doesn't last as long as enjoyment. Soon the Avatar haters will find somehting else to do or hate, and we fans will be left in peace.
Nope, I'll always consider Avatar exactly what it is. Shit wrapped up in a beautiful box, complete with bow and matching Sci-Fi paper. At least, unless it does me a favor and just dies.

Regardless, I'm not generally one to hate on a movie without my reasons. It's boring, poorly written, poorly acted, boring, the action was lame, and it's nothing we haven't seen before.

But that's just my opinion.
*sigh* and this is exaclty what i mean. Yes, you are entitled to your own opinion, but you went out of your way to try and start a fight. I will not indulge you, and will merely say: Yes, you are entitled to your own opinion, even though it is totally wrong.
You went out of your way to imply that we are blatantly rude simply because we dislike a movie you like. Both parties are equally responsible. My post was simply a rebuttal.

Besides, why should you care? Haters gonna' hate. Especially on the internet.
Well... my point was supposed to be that the hate for Avatar seems especially bad. Besides, i merely pointed out the concept, you went out ofyour way to put in particulars. It has nothing to do with wether or not i like or dislike Avatar, i jsut don;t like it when people go after things that other people like period, i prefer it is people who like something could talk without people who don't like something trying to chip in thier two cents and fouling things up. Oh well, you are right, haters are gonna hate, no matter what. I don;t understand it myself, i try to keep an open mind and leave people alone, but there you go.
"Yes, you are entitled to your own opinion, even though it is totally wrong." You gotta be kidding me. What are you eight years old? By the way. I saw Avatar the day it came out, first screening, the whole sha bang. But leaving the theater only to realize it was just another mediocre film with some 3D computer generated BS thrown in. If you ask me I'd say that if you managed to convince yourself that far you might as well paint yourself blue, put on a loincloth and jump off a cliff. But like you said, we're all entitled to our own opinion.