Those are both complaints that fall into the same category (because they both happen in the ending).SpiderJerusalem said:
Not once in the first two movies did they imply that Bruce was going to stop being Batman.
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Not once in the first two movies did they imply that Bruce was going to stop being Batman.
There wasn't much I was excited about this year ergo not much to be let down by. Dark Knight Rises was pretty bad I guess but I had already assumed the dark knight to be a complete fluke rather than a coherent creation of brilliance, so I expected a mediocre movie and ended up with a bad one which isn't so much of a letdown I guess.
I guess letdown of the year award would go to assassin's creed 3. Maybe it gets better, but you know when you have work to do, and you start trying to find excuses to do other stuff instead? I'm literally doing that to avoid playing that game and I'm debating over whether it's even worth playing or if I should just look up the cutscenes on youtube and save myself the time and curiosity.
I guess letdown of the year award would go to assassin's creed 3. Maybe it gets better, but you know when you have work to do, and you start trying to find excuses to do other stuff instead? I'm literally doing that to avoid playing that game and I'm debating over whether it's even worth playing or if I should just look up the cutscenes on youtube and save myself the time and curiosity.
Just watched the WWZ Trailer and having read the book I don't see which story this is supposed to be. Much like the Atlas Shrugged Movies, especially Part 1, were it the same movie with a different name I can see it going well.
Speaking of Atlas Shrugged, Part 2 is my biggest disappointment, it never played in Canada and I can't find it to watch anywhere. Have to wait for 2013 to write a good panning review of it.
Speaking of Atlas Shrugged, Part 2 is my biggest disappointment, it never played in Canada and I can't find it to watch anywhere. Have to wait for 2013 to write a good panning review of it.
Not quoting the other guy as I have a different read from him...at least I hope I do.SpiderJerusalem said:
Now, you say that complaining about the ending is lazy. I have to disagree on multiple points. On the "Robin" issue itself are a whole can of worms. Now, my main problem with his ending is that it ends with him with access to all of Batman's equipment. The thing is...Blake's not Batman. Now, I'm not saying that he needs to be Bruce Wayne to be Batman, but Blake currently has no way of becoming Batman. Batman has billions of dollars, a brilliant educated mind with engineering and other academic skills, ruthless cunning, the best equipment money can buy, and training from some of the best martial artists including Ra's A Ghoul (sp?). Blake on the other hand? The only thing he could have is cunning. How is he going to get the rest? This plan is doomed from the start. The money was given to his orphanage, not to Blake.
Furthermore, how does Blake know how the equipment works? Sure, Bruce might have left some instructions but he still is a poor fit to fill Batman's heavy shoes. Additionally, Bruce's ending feels...too clean. Yes, that is very nitpicky but work with me for a second. The whole point behind Nolan's Batman Trilogy to me was the concepts of justice and what it costs to uphold them. The first two movies show this well. Batman Begins does it by showing the concept of justice by showing the difference between revenge and justice. The Dark Knight dealt with the costs of upholding justice. Bruce loses his girlfriend, his way out of being Batman, and, eventually, his honor by taking the fall. The third film...gives him a perfect happy ending. He presumably has enough money to live comfortably, a drop-dead gorgeous wife (...I think I have a fetish for her...), and is considered a hero. This in itself would be fine if it didn't clash with the rest of the movie as everyone else sacrificed something, a few even their lives.
Furthermore, how does Blake know how the equipment works? Sure, Bruce might have left some instructions but he still is a poor fit to fill Batman's heavy shoes. Additionally, Bruce's ending feels...too clean. Yes, that is very nitpicky but work with me for a second. The whole point behind Nolan's Batman Trilogy to me was the concepts of justice and what it costs to uphold them. The first two movies show this well. Batman Begins does it by showing the concept of justice by showing the difference between revenge and justice. The Dark Knight dealt with the costs of upholding justice. Bruce loses his girlfriend, his way out of being Batman, and, eventually, his honor by taking the fall. The third film...gives him a perfect happy ending. He presumably has enough money to live comfortably, a drop-dead gorgeous wife (...I think I have a fetish for her...), and is considered a hero. This in itself would be fine if it didn't clash with the rest of the movie as everyone else sacrificed something, a few even their lives.
Well, I have more problems but those were the two big ones for me in the ending.
OT: Amazing Spider Man...don't get me started. I could write a thesis on what went wrong in that film.
Alright, I can accept that I misread the ending. I saw the movie more than once (having friends with different work schedules) but it can happen. Could you please explain to me what I am misunderstanding? I'm not mocking you or anything. I'm just curious on what I missed. Everyone else with this similar opinion simply says to me "If you don't understand, I can't help you." I really want to get why people think this movie's ending works as I don't.SpiderJerusalem said:
I actually rather like the Dark Knight Rises. I think it's just one of those movies that was extremely overhyped and led to massive disappointment among people. Mostly this site in particular. I think RedLetterMedia said it best, there are two types of film goers. People who go into a movie and are extremely emotionally connected to the movie and usually walk out going, "That was a damn good movie, there was nothing wrong with it." Then we got people who I think were just disappointed in the movie and were looking for things to hate, though they did pick perfectly valid points to complain about. It was just over done.
Besides, Christopher Nolan's movies at their core have always been about excellent presentation. Inception was a surprisingly simple movie when you got down to it. Man feels guilty for causing his wife's death. The Dark Knight Rises was about Batman picking himself out of his lowest depths (literally at one point.) I guess you can argue that plotholes are forgiven in that regard but I realize I might sound dumb and hypocritical for saying that. In movies without that sort of emotional undertone, I would pick apart the movie and destroy those plotholes.
Lots of movies do have plotholes, Terminator 2, Toy Story, Every James Bond movie, and so on, It doesn't make them bad movies.
OT: I wasn't really let down by anything this year. I didn't really look forward to anything, though I could see the Hobbit letting me down somehow. I did think Prometheus was dumb though. I watched it and I thought the acting and visuals were amazing. However I noticed that the writing was fucking atrocious and brought the whole movie down.
Besides, Christopher Nolan's movies at their core have always been about excellent presentation. Inception was a surprisingly simple movie when you got down to it. Man feels guilty for causing his wife's death. The Dark Knight Rises was about Batman picking himself out of his lowest depths (literally at one point.) I guess you can argue that plotholes are forgiven in that regard but I realize I might sound dumb and hypocritical for saying that. In movies without that sort of emotional undertone, I would pick apart the movie and destroy those plotholes.
Was when Bruce Wayne just sorta shows up in Gotham for no real reason what so ever. That was the only moment where I kinda stopped and went, "Wait, how the hell did he get from West Africa to Gotham by himself?" I do get the point of it though, the point isn't HOW he got back, the point is that he's back. Though I see how that might make even the average movie goer stop and question what just happened. Though I think all the stuff the OP said about Blake are good points too.
Lots of movies do have plotholes, Terminator 2, Toy Story, Every James Bond movie, and so on, It doesn't make them bad movies.
OT: I wasn't really let down by anything this year. I didn't really look forward to anything, though I could see the Hobbit letting me down somehow. I did think Prometheus was dumb though. I watched it and I thought the acting and visuals were amazing. However I noticed that the writing was fucking atrocious and brought the whole movie down.
And yet, I thought Dark Knight Rises was way better than Dark Knight. Rises at least felt like it had a plot (with an antagonist and a clear goal the movie was building toward), Dark Knight just meandered all over the place and spent way too much time trying to make all these deep statements about the human condition, and as a result just felt like three hours of reading a psychology textbook.
Also, all those plot-holes OP mentioned? Yeah, I could find just as many problems with Dark Knight. What happened to the Joker after Batman dove off the roof to save Rachel? Why the hell was a C-130 allowed to just fly over Chinese airspace (Hong Kong or not)? Why did the police officer just hang out in the cell with the Joker instead of standing on the outside? How did all those other school buses not notice another school bus just drive out of a bank wall?
As for my biggest let down of they year? Good question. I'll let you know when I think of it.
Also, all those plot-holes OP mentioned? Yeah, I could find just as many problems with Dark Knight. What happened to the Joker after Batman dove off the roof to save Rachel? Why the hell was a C-130 allowed to just fly over Chinese airspace (Hong Kong or not)? Why did the police officer just hang out in the cell with the Joker instead of standing on the outside? How did all those other school buses not notice another school bus just drive out of a bank wall?
As for my biggest let down of they year? Good question. I'll let you know when I think of it.
Um... RE6?
I feel like we could see it coming though.
Great for replays, co-op, and just shooting at stuff while you mildly pay attention. Bad at everything that made the earlier games good.
Also, who names a boss Deborah?! I serious can't take the goo covered, naked woman with massive death tentacles coming out of her back and face seriously. Everytime I hear "Deborah NO!" I think "Take a dump on Deborah's desk. LIKE A BOSS!"
Also Also, ZOMBIE T-REX!!?!
Also Also Also, How can something the size and shape of a normal man, also contain enough flesh and organs to make a zombie T-Rex without having the density of Jupiter!
I feel like we could see it coming though.
Great for replays, co-op, and just shooting at stuff while you mildly pay attention. Bad at everything that made the earlier games good.
Also, who names a boss Deborah?! I serious can't take the goo covered, naked woman with massive death tentacles coming out of her back and face seriously. Everytime I hear "Deborah NO!" I think "Take a dump on Deborah's desk. LIKE A BOSS!"
Also Also, ZOMBIE T-REX!!?!
Also Also Also, How can something the size and shape of a normal man, also contain enough flesh and organs to make a zombie T-Rex without having the density of Jupiter!
You just described my exact feelings towards Guild Wars 2.Blackdoom said:
Borderlands 2 also gives me the same type of feeling.
The entirety of the NFL this year was disappointing, esp my team.
Diablo 3 probably would have been, but I just picked it up on a whim without many expectations.
Didn't see any disappointing movies this year. Guess that sums it up.
In movies I will say that Prometheus is mine. Ridley Scott seems to be very hit and miss as of late, but nothing prepared me for THAT. There was no reason why that movie shouldn't have been great. It had a budget, good actors, a veteran director with many accolades, and was just awful.
People hating on DKR is why we can't have nice things anymore. That movie ruled and you all are wrong. I HAVE SPOKEN.
OT: The Dictator. Good lord what a terrible flick. I was hesitant when I heard it was written by the guys who wrote Eurotrip, one of my top 10 worst movies ever. I thought that Cohen could save it. I was so wrong. In addition to being unfunny it was actively offensive. Not in a oh I'm offended by that politically incorrect joke. As in I'm not laughing and now I'm being made uncomfortable by your terrible attempts at gross out comedy.
OT: The Dictator. Good lord what a terrible flick. I was hesitant when I heard it was written by the guys who wrote Eurotrip, one of my top 10 worst movies ever. I thought that Cohen could save it. I was so wrong. In addition to being unfunny it was actively offensive. Not in a oh I'm offended by that politically incorrect joke. As in I'm not laughing and now I'm being made uncomfortable by your terrible attempts at gross out comedy.