BioWare talks about the next Dragon Age.
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I am OK with the faster combat. Both games' combat had their merits. I hate the Bioware dialogue wheel, however, and a voiced protagonist is a major strike against the game for me.SajuukKhar said:
Wrex is alive? You mean your crew on the last mission is alive? Yeah, I got that ending too. My crew I took into the final battle was alive too. Diversity! Is that really the hollow crap you are going to support? That is your case? If that is the case, then Mario is loaded with choices because I can choose to play as Luigi or Mario. Story Diversity! YAY! It amazes me that you can dig that deep for an excuse to deny what is right in front of you to defend wonderful Bioware/ME3.Draech said:
I have argued against the DLC, against Tali's lame ass reveal as someone who doesn't give a crap about Tali, and against the fact that multiplayer pulls against the singleplayer experience. (Something I feel has proven itself yet again) However, you seem to not understand that the ending is the largest load of crap Bioware pulled, not the only one worth mentioning.
A common arument is that 99% of the game was a "flawless gem", no it wasn't. The weapons/upgrades were devoid of any diversity to playstyle completely undermining the point of the system in place. The combat mechanics were good, not great. Story presentation had a couple good moments but falls apart completely with anything involving the kid and the dream sequences. (Probably because they ripped the guts out of that entire branch of the story and kept the left overs in.) The game is above average based on gameplay alone. However, when you consider it is a story centric game design and they failed on the story, it falls short. It is an action game with needless dialogue sections that don't really weigh in on the end result. Like if Uncharted gave you choices but they all lead to the same place, all it would do is to serve to throw off the pacing and voice acting for arbitrary reasons. Games don't need more "You're more my type, Lulu" dialogue options in games. It's pointless.
Sorry, but cleaning up the milk you spilled doesn't deserve enthusiastic praise. It IS to be expected. Retailers won't even stock their game with all the DLC because the game doesn't sell. I liked the idea behind Dragon Age 2, but I can't say I am surprised.
http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/107364-dragon-age-ii-ultimate-edition-wont-exist-due-to-retailer-disinterest.html
Would you enthusiastically praise Titus Software if they made a Superman 64 sequel and this time said that they would not include rings? Hell no. They better if they want to sell a game. But the end product is yet to be seen. Maybe this time they use "hoops". People like you will back them up on it too and say "they aren't rings, in game dialogue calls them hoops, you guys will ***** about anything"
I don't care about the people clapping, the announcement is lame. I haven't said anything about the people clapping. I don't care what Joe Brophy likes or dislikes. I am saying that announcement is lame. YOU are telling ME I am not allowed to say that and I should be cheering.
Also, come on, they knew how big of a deal reusing levels would be to that extent. No other game they have made has reused levels like that. I don't buy for a minute that they didn't have the proper sense of scope. Simple math at how many environments they had would have told them that. They make RPGs consistently, its what they do. They knew the count on that game was low. The amount of environment loops in that code could make a man dizzy.
Considering Da2 bosses were given absurd levels of HP, Im not holding my breath.Das Boot said:
capthca: pipe dream, what any good Bioware game is nowadays.
It's not so much that they're re-inventing the wheel and everyone is amazed by it. It's more so that they're showing that they've heard what everyone has said about it and are taking the necessary steps to rectify their "past transgressions". Ultimately what they're doing is taking the one step forward after having taken two steps back with DA2.Aircross said:
I never said it was shit. Did you read the post at all before you responded to it?Imbechile said:
I said old-school people will hate it because of it, I particularly liked the faster combat.
Meh. That is really all I can offer up for this. I really can't get excited for anything 'Bioware' anymore. If it comes out and I hear it is good, we'll see but the announcements don't do anything for me.
It saves on having to devise real challenge if you just make bosses have billions of HP, even if they are just a normal human being. Yay for well thought out challenge.SajuukKhar said:
It's laudable because nobody else is interested in doing it. Bioware know full well that it isn't new, they're the guys that made those RPGs.Aircross said:
I doubt they do realize it. Most of the team members from those days have moved on to Beamdog or whoever is making that Banner Saga series. Barely any of the original Bioware workers are still in the company.YawningAngel said:
Seems pretty good to me, but I a going to take it with a grain of salt for the most part until there is evidence that it will be there. I do think they are in the right direction as far as letting me customize my parties' gear while still giving them a unique look. Pretty much the prefer mix of DA:O and 2. Not reusing dungeons seems like a simple idea as long as the game isn't rushed out the door as fast as two was. Not much I can say about meaningful choices until they have some evidence of what that will really mean in the game. I mean every rpg seems to say they will have that now but none of them ever seem to be satisfying.
For the record I played DA:2 on 360 so outside of the combat being to easy I didn't find it that much different from Origins. Also I liked a number of changes that where made outside of the world feeling much smaller and for a game that was supposed to take place over a decade it seemed like the changes to the city between acts where superficial, which for me ruined my immersion in the story.
For the record I played DA:2 on 360 so outside of the combat being to easy I didn't find it that much different from Origins. Also I liked a number of changes that where made outside of the world feeling much smaller and for a game that was supposed to take place over a decade it seemed like the changes to the city between acts where superficial, which for me ruined my immersion in the story.
Because in Dragon Age: Origins I was my character. I made choices for myself. I connected personally with characters who spoke to ME. I was immersed completely because of that. I considered Alister a friend. Things mattered more. In DA2, I didn't make my own choices. I was guiding Hawke and I was watching his story, which I didn't care for at all by the way. It didn't feel personal or epic. It felt out of place and unnecessary. And it felt lazy as the rest of the game. I guess it was easier for them to give voice to the protagonist than to write so much dialogue for the other characters. Origins had an insane amount of dialogue.bullet_sandw1ch said:
I didn't mind a voiced protagonist in Mass Effect because it was imagined as Shepard's journey from the start. The same reason I don't mind Geralt in The Witcher, JC Denton in Deus Ex etc. But when you let me play as myself in one game, and then you take that away from me and make me play with some tosser in the sequel I will not be pleased.
The muteness is one of the reasons I couldn't get through DA:O and just stopped playing. After playing so many RPGs with a voiced protagonist and straight forward dialogue system, DA:O felt outdated and I just couldn't deal with it.Nimcha said:
What made it worse in DA:O was that while in conversations my guy was all "Derp, I must be a mute telepathic", in battles he would shout out things, simple phrases. I felt that if they were going to do that, they should have given the protagonist a conversation voice.
I found DA2 to be a far better game than DA:O, because I found that all the things I hated about DA:O had been fixed/changed in DA2.
Yeah, I wouldn't buy DA3 if they went back to the outdated dialogue system of DA:O. I might not buy it if they go back to the old battle system; I like DA2's "full control" battle system universes more than DA:O's.
