Bullying - how far can you go to defend from it?
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The first shot in the arm is more or less understandable i might would have done the same but the rest isn't. I mean YES they are idiots And they went WAY to far but thats no reason to kill someone.
Also the first shot would have been enough, I mean they were running AWAY!
Also the first shot would have been enough, I mean they were running AWAY!
This is why we need to be able to have guns. If I had a son, and people were doing that to him, and they showed up at my house- I would shoot to kill not just to drive them away. The guy would have totally justified, in my mind, for lining up all of them and executing them if they were trying to break into his house to assault his retarded son.
Let's break that down for a second though:
"Break into his house" If you don't know someone, or worse yet they dislike you, you should not be going into their house.
"to assault" Now, not only are you invading a person's privacy, your doing it to harm someone
"his retarded" It's bad to assault someone, worse to assault someone who probably won't be able to handle themselves as well as most while its occurring.
"son." They attacked his kid.
They should have all died that night, and I think just shooting two of them, one non-fatally, was an exercise of great mercy on the part of the man.
Let's break that down for a second though:
"Break into his house" If you don't know someone, or worse yet they dislike you, you should not be going into their house.
"to assault" Now, not only are you invading a person's privacy, your doing it to harm someone
"his retarded" It's bad to assault someone, worse to assault someone who probably won't be able to handle themselves as well as most while its occurring.
"son." They attacked his kid.
They should have all died that night, and I think just shooting two of them, one non-fatally, was an exercise of great mercy on the part of the man.
Shooting a guy as he tried to flee?
That's not quite self-defence. Shooting them on his property is fine, so long as he doesn't shoot to kill when he's obviously in a position of power. He took advantage of that power and killed people in a fit of rage, not righteous fury.
He took it too far.
That's not quite self-defence. Shooting them on his property is fine, so long as he doesn't shoot to kill when he's obviously in a position of power. He took advantage of that power and killed people in a fit of rage, not righteous fury.
He took it too far.
I was only being bullied once for like half a year, by someone who was my friend for the first half of that year (some friend huh?). After that people made fun of me for being athiest (I went to a Catholic school). It stopped because I left that shitty, bigotted school and went to a school that WON'T kill you for believing something different.
The story is actually even more complicated than that. I read a article about it too, which stated that the police did indeed know about all this and that it was going on but never did anything. One of the teenagers who got shot (can't remember which) was actually not a part of the harassing, and was actually just trying to help out his friend (which was the gang leader, but the father didn't know this ofcourse). the gang actually harassed/attacked the family another time AFTER the incident happened too. I very much understand the father, considering that this had been going on for years and not even the police was doing anything about it (the feeling of hoplesness probably was one of the main reasons he reacted as such, or so me thinks atleast).
Oooh..Well, this might sound a bit stupid, but I only managed to skim through the article in my lunch break today and wrote what I remembered clearly..sorry if I was misleadingLeifur said:
Actions have consequences, if you're dumb enough to doubt it, you're dumb enough to learn it the hard way. I would have shot at them too, doubtful I would kill them, but a gang of assholes holding weapons whilst your wife is out on the driveway?...you're gonna shoot.
We've had similiar groups in my neighbourhood, showing up in parks where children play, zooming about on mopeds. The look on their faces as my dad walked over with my baseball bat and started swinging at their mopeds is one of my most cherished childhood memories.
We've had similiar groups in my neighbourhood, showing up in parks where children play, zooming about on mopeds. The look on their faces as my dad walked over with my baseball bat and started swinging at their mopeds is one of my most cherished childhood memories.
No, but approaching someone's home with intention to enter and cause potentially lethal harm to the occupants is more than just cause to defend with lethal force, especially considering it was 6 armed young men versus ONE.Jenova65 said:
Let's see, these boys kept harassing the family AND the community as a whole, went to the family's house and obtained weapons weapons (Improvised striking tools) with the intent of either scaring or harming them.
I say the bastards deserved what they got. I'm not normally one for vigilante justice and it's sad that two teenagers died as a result, but these kids brought it upon themselves with their idiotic actions.
I say the bastards deserved what they got. I'm not normally one for vigilante justice and it's sad that two teenagers died as a result, but these kids brought it upon themselves with their idiotic actions.
I say he didn't need to kill the prick. Though I say they all should have taken a shot in the knee or something. What they were doing was beyond wrong, in my book when you start doing what they were you are approaching losing the status of human in my book. The guy was probably blind with rage and on edge from adrenaline so he was not thinking logically. He probably reverted to the "Mother Bear" mentality. At the time all he probably saw was a threat to his family. In that state of mind you don't just scare the threat away, you neutralize it.
Yeah, I hear about these things, and it's bad. I'd hate it if I lived in a neighbourhood where that kinda thing happened.
Irrelevant, but what you are on probation for... is awesome.imahobbit4062 said:
