Call of Duty: Women at War

[RobCoxxy]

Umm, theres a woman in KZ2. I think she gets cutscene-killed though.

The woman in Goldeneye 64 was notorious for being the hardest thing to protect in any game ever. So maybe she ruined it for the rest.

Fucking, fucking GOD DAMN Natalya.
I never made it to the end of the game because she kept dying in the control room level near the end. ¬_¬

 

[IWCAS]

Now a female enemy would be weird. If I was pickin off dudes in my scope and saw a chick pop up I would probly hesitate and say WTF. That would be strange.

 

[Jaythulhu]

So no, I'm not in the business of "pissing off women," I'm simply working on the knowledge of my own countries army - given that the British Army happens to be a pretty good one I don't think it's completely unfair to assume other "modern" armies operate in a similar manner.

To give you a bit of support, since you're rather unfairly being harassed over this, women are also banned from frontline combat duties in the Australian Armed Forces. Women can be pilots, but at this point, they're still also banned from serving on submarines (not that we have any worth a damn. Stupid colins class subs).

 

[Utarefson]

Not every game is forcing you to look at female soldiers (alyx) like hl2 does, but there often running around in some squads like in ghost recon or even have high ranks like in halo...

 

[Aerosmith250]

Biologically? BULLSHIT!
If a boy and girl were trained exactly the same from birth to be killing machines, I bet 9 out of 10, the chick would kick the guy's ass. Society conditions females to be the 'pussies' that they are. Forcing girls to play with barbies and ponies and scolding them for doing anything remotely masculine is what makes women suck at combat in general. Not any biological or emotional handicap.

Males and females are basically the same, except for the difference that males get 5% more muscle mass than girls at birth (not very much and remember, at birth) and girls are slightly more resistant to disease and infection.

Thing is, it seems like males get the short end of the biological stick here because that's "at birth", meaning excluding further development.
Which means that you have to look at people as developed beings, not for what they were like when they were children.
Really, what's more important than the starting point is what you do with yourself.
If you're "built" for war, you'll do war, if not, you won't.

Gender does not effect this, perhaps aside from the commonly held truth that women are violent psychopaths who don't feel pain because they're really aliens.

The muscle mass thing is true, so is the fact that men have broader shoulders naturally allowing more muscle to build up in this area to help carry heavier packs but note that this is naturally, if a woman trains she can carry this weight as easily as a man.

The whole 'biologically weaker' thing was a valid argument when warfare was conducted in full suits of armour waving heavy swords around, but guns are equalisers, anyone can pull a trigger.
It's also a bit of a misconception that periods basically emotionally incapacitate women for one week out of every 4, most women can deal with it well, not letting it afeect their work or anything important. MOST who do are attention seeking or are not in a situation where they need self control. It also means women are more resistent to pain and since they have to cope with emotions more than men they are better with post traumatic stress and can deal with situations in front of them i.e. killing someone without geting emotionally invovled as well as a man.

HOWEVER i do agree with other posters that women will remain in the minority for awhile, in games too,due to them being distraction for men who are in the vast majority in the army and women aren't AS capable of dealing with physical training as men and in a rare scenario a period may compromise a woman on the battlefront.

for a completely unrealistcic FPS where you play as a woman, try no one lives forever - hillarious.

 

[lockeslylcrit]

In the US Army, you won't find any women in the Infantry. In fact, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon makes a specific mention about one of its only female characters that she was originally a demolitions MOS before being recruited to the Special Operations because women aren't allowed in combat MOS's.
You will see women in support roles in combat (such as Apache pilot), but not active combat roles (such as Infantryman).

 

[Vigilantis]

Thats why I play Uncharted 2 ...Chloes fine and firm ...

 

[Admiral Stukov]

There is a rumor that the russian T-34 tanks were driven by women to reduce weight -> increase speed.

 

[BrionJames]

No, I don't want that in my F-ing FPS. Women are already trying to shove their noses into all my other favorite genres and thats one I'd like to keep free of them. Plus, I'm pretty sure there isn't any Special forces group with women in it.

 

[Feralbreed]

[/quote]
Linear FPS games like COD, GOW, Halo are working on a 20 year old concept and it's still a rarity to see females taking part in a realistic role. Or at least as equals to males. let alone having a female protagonist.[/quote]

Who remembers Metroid?

 

[rompsku]

Linear FPS games like COD, GOW, Halo are working on a 20 year old concept and it's still a rarity to see females taking part in a realistic role. Or at least as equals to males. let alone having a female protagonist.

Who remembers Metroid?

Who remembers Metroid being realistic? Not me....
Read the original post please. Women in realistic combat situations. The Metroid world is not realistic.

 

[Kevvers]

If you believe in social evolution (which I generally don't) its because a tribe which uses females as soldiers reduces its ability to reproduce overall if they get killed. You don't need as many men to maintain a population as women as a consequence men are more expendable and are naturally assigned roles where there is a risk of death.

However, I heard that male seahorses do get pregnant, and unbelievably it is still the males who compete for a mate rather than the females:
http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2003/february/shorse.htm

 

[Booze Zombie]

No, I don't want that in my F-ing FPS. Women are already trying to shove their noses into all my other favorite genres and thats one I'd like to keep free of them. Plus, I'm pretty sure there isn't any Special forces group with women in it.

So, I'm guessing you skimmed over the post about the Korean Special Forces made almost entirly out of women because they believe them to be more vicious?

Just guessing, mind you.

 

[Feralbreed]

Biologically? BULLSHIT!
If a boy and girl were trained exactly the same from birth to be killing machines, I bet 9 out of 10, the chick would kick the guy's ass. Society conditions females to be the 'pussies' that they are. Forcing girls to play with barbies and ponies and scolding them for doing anything remotely masculine is what makes women suck at combat in general. Not any biological or emotional handicap.

Males and females are basically the same, except for the difference that males get 5% more muscle mass than girls at birth (not very much and remember, at birth) and girls are slightly more resistant to disease and infection.

Thing is, it seems like males get the short end of the biological stick here because that's "at birth", meaning excluding further development.
Which means that you have to look at people as developed beings, not for what they were like when they were children.
Really, what's more important than the starting point is what you do with yourself.
If you're "built" for war, you'll do war, if not, you won't.

Gender does not effect this, perhaps aside from the commonly held truth that women are violent psychopaths who don't feel pain because they're really aliens.

The muscle mass thing is true, so is the fact that men have broader shoulders naturally allowing more muscle to build up in this area to help carry heavier packs but note that this is naturally, if a woman trains she can carry this weight as easily as a man.

The whole 'biologically weaker' thing was a valid argument when warfare was conducted in full suits of armour waving heavy swords around, but guns are equalisers, anyone can pull a trigger.
It's also a bit of a misconception that periods basically emotionally incapacitate women for one week out of every 4, most women can deal with it well, not letting it afeect their work or anything important. MOST who do are attention seeking or are not in a situation where they need self control. It also means women are more resistent to pain and since they have to cope with emotions more than men they are better with post traumatic stress and can deal with situations in front of them i.e. killing someone without geting emotionally invovled as well as a man.

HOWEVER i do agree with other posters that women will remain in the minority for awhile, in games too,due to them being distraction for men who are in the vast majority in the army and women aren't AS capable of dealing with physical training as men and in a rare scenario a period may compromise a woman on the battlefront.

for a completely unrealistcic FPS where you play as a woman, try no one lives forever - hillarious.

Why do you people have such an urge to include women in combat is beyond me. Don't we have enough killing going on already? If it would do something it would just make the men go even more crazy during battle.

So no, it's not a good idea.

 

[Rainboq]

COD: Finest hour, you play as a girl, Natasha, funest levels in the game, cause sniping is fun!

 

[Feralbreed]

Linear FPS games like COD, GOW, Halo are working on a 20 year old concept and it's still a rarity to see females taking part in a realistic role. Or at least as equals to males. let alone having a female protagonist.

Who remembers Metroid?

Who remembers Metroid being realistic? Not me....
Read the original post please. Women in realistic combat situations. The Metroid world is not realistic.

You got me. But I meant that as a response to the last bit: "let alone having a female protagonist."

 

[stabnex]

What we really want are games all about foxy ladies in skimpy night attire wielding huge black death-cocks and mowing down entire amrys of the same.

WHOOOO! Come on game developers! Let's get one rolling! I HAVE MORE IDEAS! JUST CONTACT ME!

 

[Cabisco]

I couldn't care less if their was a women in a game or not, male female gay straight so long as we like the character and the game should we give a fuck about gender headcount? I don't see many ethnic minorities in games, aside from the ones i'm told to kill. Why don't we all complain about that and then call everyone who puts a different point of view racist instead of sexist? You know, like we always do.