Cheerleader must compensate school that told her to clap 'rapist'

[thublihnk]

I find the reporting in this article to be highly suspect and extremely biased. Note that the rape charge was *dropped*, yet it's not explained WHY it was dropped. The article just assumes that everything the girl says about the "sexual assault" is 100% true. If she's so opposed to this guy, why did she join the cheerleading squad instead of switching schools or whatever? And why did she seek monetary "compensation" in court instead of seeking to be *reinstated* on the cheerleading team? Were other avenues of negotiation with the school pursued before a lawsuit was brought?

Opinions and vague assertions are rife in this article but facts are scanty. I wouldn't feel informed enough to give any useful opinion on this topic whatsoever.

The rape charge was 'dropped' because it was plea-bargained down to an assault charge. How about you do a little googling before you doubt a rape victim?

 

[Darks63]

Damn she needs to appeal that shit asap I sense a definate bias on the judge if this was actually handed down.

 

[thublihnk]

She is a cheerleader, it's her job to lead cheering. If I don't do my job then I get fired, if I don't want to do it, then why am I working there. She knows she was going to have to cheer for him when she decided to be a basketball cheerleader. Then they get rid of her for not doing what she's supposed to do and her parents who must be 'sue crazy' decided to make a few sextra (See what I did there) dollars and took them to court when the school had the right to teminate her. If a cheerleader cannot cheer with the rest of the team, or can't remember the corography (I know thats wrong) do they not get the boot?

Her parents deserve to pay that $45k and then some. If they continue to push it they need to pay more. Drop the subject and count your losses. Maybe the court system will count theirs and let it go also. If he raped her and the court dropped it then there wasn't the right evidence to push it through, either that or there was evidence against her that it wasn't what she wanted.. I bet she's a white chick who happened to be surrounded by black guys, drunk and what not. She didn't get raped, her dad found out and was upset so she cried rape and took them to court.

You seriously suck for saying that. You know next to nothing about the case, and yet you so clearly and cavalierly assume that a rape victim is just a lawsuit happy, drunken slut, and that if she doesn't want to cheer her rapist, she shouldn't be allowed to cheer for anyone.

And to continue your silly little metaphor, if you were raped by your boss, and he plea bargained the charge down to assault (what happened in the case, if you bothered to look it up), got to keep his job because he's just a fantastic employee otherwise, wouldn't you cry foul if your company fired you from a job you otherwise love because you couldn't get along with the fucking RAPIST you work under!?

 

[TheStupidguy12]

What the hell? The report says that "a cheerleader freely agrees to act as a "mouthpiece" for a institution and therefore surrenders her constitutional right to free speech."

SURRENDERS THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. For CHEERLEADING. At a basketball game.

This disappoints me.

 

[theultimateend]

Goodbye faith in humanity.

Spoiler: Contains strong language. Read at own risk.

Fucking stupid bastards in this world but these dicks take the shitty cake.

Please don't equate Texas to Humanity. That is mighty insulting.

Damn she needs to appeal that shit asap I sense a definate bias on the judge if this was actually handed down.

She'll want to take it to a court outside of Texas if possible.

Or at least outside of her area of Texas.

I've known quite a few folks who grew up in various parts of that state and ehhhhh...

 

[Scars Unseen]

words

Oh. No. Mistakes are fine. Drop a cup? It's okay. Lock us out of the house? Oh well. It happens. Ruin my new shirt? Damn. It's okay though. Mistakes happen. You don't accidentally force someone to have sex with you, however. There is no 'opps'; it's a calculated choice. Hell, I'd gladly end the life of a rapist with my own hands. I see no foul in removing a flea from a dog.

I guess we must disagree.

That's why you're so narrow-minded on this topic. You don't consider the realities of human life. Rape often isn't so black and white. Life itself isn't black and white.

Give me an example where consent would be ambiguous - and intoxication doesn't count. It's called "Informed consent" for a reason, they have to have a reasonable level of awareness to them.

Two people are intoxicated. They agree to have sex. One cries rape the next day. Solve for X.

Of course intoxication counts.

 

[thublihnk]

words

Oh. No. Mistakes are fine. Drop a cup? It's okay. Lock us out of the house? Oh well. It happens. Ruin my new shirt? Damn. It's okay though. Mistakes happen. You don't accidentally force someone to have sex with you, however. There is no 'opps'; it's a calculated choice. Hell, I'd gladly end the life of a rapist with my own hands. I see no foul in removing a flea from a dog.

I guess we must disagree.

That's why you're so narrow-minded on this topic. You don't consider the realities of human life. Rape often isn't so black and white. Life itself isn't black and white.

Give me an example where consent would be ambiguous - and intoxication doesn't count. It's called "Informed consent" for a reason, they have to have a reasonable level of awareness to them.

Two people are intoxicated. They agree to have sex. One cries rape the next day. Solve for X.

Of course intoxication counts.

Considering the rapist plead guilty to misdemeanor assault, I'd say that doesn't apply.

 

[Auron225]

Feck sake - I bet even that rapist prick was sitting there thinking "WTF!?" when he heard about HER having to pay $45,000. This is seriously the kind of thing I might expect to happen in Family Guy or South Park...

 

[thublihnk]

I haven't read all 10 pages so this may have been said but...

This is one of those cases where the "right" thing is not the "legal" thing.

It's pretty clear that the school did the legal thing. The boy was NOT convicted of rape. The school can only deal with that he was convicted of. As such they were right to let him back onto the team. Once on the team there is no reason to not continue to chear for one of the players and the school might be exposed legally if they treated him differently. The chearleaders aren't cheering for who they want, they are doing the work of the school and representing the school. If she wasn't willing to do that, they were right to remove her.

I can't see any grounds on which she had a tort claim and thus the case was frivolous.

So it sucks, its unfair, but it makes sense legally.

The rape charge didn't go through, but the assault charge did. That's more than enough reason.

 

[punksnotdead]

Yeah somethings most likely is not being told. Thats how news places are, they change words, say half-truths, lie outright, leave things out to make things more interesting. But if it is all true, then thats messed up. Free speech should never be taken away, in any circumstance.
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
-Martin Luther King Jr
Because I like to post music related to the topic on hand:
Rape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjNy2M4Xapw
The taking away of rights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doLJEU4dyI4

 

[artanis_neravar]

Show of hands, who actually read the article?

I would not pay. I would Gandhi that shit.

That's what I'd go for. Then if that didn't work, shit is on.

Enjoy getting your ass dragged through court over and over then.

 

[Elric Randall]

Oh, jeez. A cheerleader that refused to cheer for someone she didn't like got kicked off the team for not doing her job, and then sued for compensation. Since she and her parents lost the suit, they have to reimburse the accused the money they spent hiring a defense.

I can admire the act of defiance, and can certainly understand the refusal to cheer, but the lawsuit was unnecessary. "Pay me to not do what I signed up for" isn't exactly very compelling.

But ignore that whole bit. Someone said rapist in the headline. Get yer torch and pitchfork.

 

[JMeganSnow]

I find the reporting in this article to be highly suspect and extremely biased. Note that the rape charge was *dropped*, yet it's not explained WHY it was dropped. The article just assumes that everything the girl says about the "sexual assault" is 100% true. If she's so opposed to this guy, why did she join the cheerleading squad instead of switching schools or whatever? And why did she seek monetary "compensation" in court instead of seeking to be *reinstated* on the cheerleading team? Were other avenues of negotiation with the school pursued before a lawsuit was brought?

Opinions and vague assertions are rife in this article but facts are scanty. I wouldn't feel informed enough to give any useful opinion on this topic whatsoever.

The rape charge was 'dropped' because it was plea-bargained down to an assault charge. How about you do a little googling before you doubt a rape victim?

What does her being a "rape victim" have to do with her credibility? Plea bargains usually happen because there's *not enough evidence* to prove the charges and to avoid a lengthy and costly court battle.

This article is a farce--there's not enough reported information to form any kind of useful opinion.

 

[Scars Unseen]

words

Oh. No. Mistakes are fine. Drop a cup? It's okay. Lock us out of the house? Oh well. It happens. Ruin my new shirt? Damn. It's okay though. Mistakes happen. You don't accidentally force someone to have sex with you, however. There is no 'opps'; it's a calculated choice. Hell, I'd gladly end the life of a rapist with my own hands. I see no foul in removing a flea from a dog.

I guess we must disagree.

That's why you're so narrow-minded on this topic. You don't consider the realities of human life. Rape often isn't so black and white. Life itself isn't black and white.

Give me an example where consent would be ambiguous - and intoxication doesn't count. It's called "Informed consent" for a reason, they have to have a reasonable level of awareness to them.

Two people are intoxicated. They agree to have sex. One cries rape the next day. Solve for X.

Of course intoxication counts.

Considering the rapist plead guilty to misdemeanor assault, I'd say that doesn't apply.

A) The challenge was to give a non-black and white rape scenario. I provided one.

B) Accepting a plea bargain does not mean that he committed the crime(though he has now been convicted of committing a crime). Whether he committed rape or not, when presented with the choice between accepting a verdict that does not carry prison time or fighting against a verdict that would, I am certain that quite a few people would take the former. Maybe he raped her. Maybe he didn't. The fact that he accepted a misdemeanor plea bargain makes the situation less clear, not more.

 

[cbert]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cheerleader-must-compensate-school-that-told-her-to-clap-rapist-2278522.html

A teenage girl who was dropped from her high school's cheer leading squad after refusing to chant the name of a basketball player who had sexually assaulted her must pay compensation of $45,000 (£27,300) after losing a legal challenge against the decision.

Normally stuff like this makes me rage so hard I am unable to type,this time I am sort of in a transcended state of pure rage so I am able to coherently type.It happened in the US in Texas btw.

So,what are the Escapists feelings on this,I consider myself level headed and understand crazy shit happens in this world,but if I had a daughter who got raped and I had to pay the rapists legal fees,I think I would instead use that money to buy guns and ammo and go postal on the judge and rapist.This is if I was 100% certain my daughter got raped.

Sending my ire to the principle, and sympathy and solidarity to the rape survivor.

Very disgusted with my country at the moment.

 

[gunheads]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cheerleader-must-compensate-school-that-told-her-to-clap-rapist-2278522.html

So,what are the Escapists feelings on this,I consider myself level headed and understand crazy shit happens in this world,but if I had a daughter who got raped and I had to pay the rapists legal fees,I think I would instead use that money to buy guns and ammo and go postal on the judge and rapist.This is if I was 100% certain my daughter got raped.

That's what I would consider doing. That's fucked up. what kind of backward ass people are they? Fuck em all

Texans. (not all of them are bad, I know, but still.)

 

[JMeganSnow]

The rape charge didn't go through, but the assault charge did. That's more than enough reason.

You are aware that it's "assault" to touch someone without their permission, or to THREATEN to lay hands on them in a menacing manner. Oh, and sexually-based assaults are NOT misdemeanor assaults.

If she'd actually been hurt, it would have been "assault and battery", which is a whole 'nother animal.

It is imbecile to expect the school to allow public grandstanding over personal issues at school functions.

 

[Kuilui]

sexual assault not rape or was it? Well she filed a lawsuit because she got thrown off the team. Well this all seems kind of stupid on both ends honestly.