Consiparcy Theories
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Grr, Zeitgeist, my mortal enemy. If I'm not mistaken, the creators of the video acknowledged it's fake-ness, but it was there make people think and look things up.KiiWii said:
Plus any video that makes a reference to that dude making idiotic claims that we are all "Glued to the tv" and that we care more about it then real life is automatically, in my eyes, a big fat bucket of stupid.
911 a conspiracy? No chance.
Think of the consequences of discovery:it would tear America apart. No leader, no matter how draconian, is going to risk his power like that.
Think of the consequences of discovery:it would tear America apart. No leader, no matter how draconian, is going to risk his power like that.
i think all the proof you need of the moon landing lies in the man who asked neil armstrong face to face how it felt to be part of a lie all these years, he got a nice cold class of laid out by an old man punch to the jaw. look it up on youtube it's actually really awsome he just levels this guy.
as far as the government being involved in 9/11 i think if they were smart enough to fabricate the whole thing anyone who found out the truth would have been dead long before they could post it on the internet.
oh and yeah mos def is a moron.
the funny thing is due to the freedom of information it's been long enough where the truth about the whole roswell/area 51 has come out and people still beleive the conspiracy more thouroughly than the truth.
i'd like to beleive in aliens but thus far there has just been no credible evidence of them from anything ever reported.
based on the track record of our government i think it's more than possible they could loose a brain i mean heck they probably didn't have it screwed down and who knows it's just as likley some nut broke in and stole it to do weird experiments on it to try and find out how many bullets hit it and from what direction.
as far as the government being involved in 9/11 i think if they were smart enough to fabricate the whole thing anyone who found out the truth would have been dead long before they could post it on the internet.
oh and yeah mos def is a moron.
the funny thing is due to the freedom of information it's been long enough where the truth about the whole roswell/area 51 has come out and people still beleive the conspiracy more thouroughly than the truth.
i'd like to beleive in aliens but thus far there has just been no credible evidence of them from anything ever reported.
based on the track record of our government i think it's more than possible they could loose a brain i mean heck they probably didn't have it screwed down and who knows it's just as likley some nut broke in and stole it to do weird experiments on it to try and find out how many bullets hit it and from what direction.
I'm not sure about that, really. I mean, what 70s American would believe the word of a communist? It was smack bang in the middle of the Cold War. It would've just looked like propaganda, to deny the American victory in the race to the moon. I'm not sure if that'd apply to everyone with a radio telescope, but it was a big occasion. I wouldn't be surprised if any naysayers were just told to bugger off.GrowlersAtSea said:
The footage of the moon landing is actually rather fishy itself, with strange light sources, and other weird crap going on. It seems fairly clear that we've landed since, but it's not quite such a far-fetched idea that the first was faked. I'm still undecided.
ok, my mistake, it was buzz aldrin who socked the guy, i found the clip, figured i'd post it,
http://www.filecabi.net/video/buzz-aldrin.html
anyone else think we never went to the moon?
http://www.filecabi.net/video/buzz-aldrin.html
anyone else think we never went to the moon?
The Moon Landing didn't occur though just for Americans to pat themselves on the back. It was a competition for prestige, like most of the Cold War, trying to get the gain influence over the rest of the world. It wouldn't matter so much what Americans thought if the Soviets produced proof that the US didn't go to the Moon, it would be what the whole world would think.
The late 1960's and early 1970's were not a glowing time for the States (Vietnam was prattling on, Nixon had begun is shenanigans, Civil Rights Movement, the deaths of Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr.). If the Soviets could have come down and said 'look, even your so called victory is just a sham, and so are you' they certainly would have, and something like that could have been devastating at the time.
But they didn't do anything like that, instead of delivering a monumental blow to American credability and prestige, they allowed it to be a victory that was watched the world over. So really, either they knew it was for real and couldn't risk the embarrassment of claiming otherwise or the monolithic KGB and very bright Soviet Space Program couldn't see the what some random independent investigators and a Fox television program did. There is interesting analysis of the photos and and film from the moon, as well as some interesting recreations floating around, nothing has really surprised me about it or pointed to it all being in Arizona.
For 9/11 things, I think it's very unlikely for the simple reason that the US Government leaks like a sieve. Really only select Black Budget military projects (which are carried out literally in the middle of the desert and probably a lot underground) can stay relatively in the dark, and most of what people think they know may be disinformation. When you talk about conspiracies of hundreds or thousands of people all over the country, things start getting less and less likely. Compound that with the amount of money and fame a single conspirator could make by coming forward with "the truth" and it gets very unlikely.
I don't doubt small numbers of people can participate in conspiracies (the Assassination of Lincoln, for example) but the more people who come into play, especially if they're government workers, the more chance that something will go wrong. There's a great quote out there, it goes something like 'More often that not, conspiracies fail, but even more often, they never existed in the first place.'
The late 1960's and early 1970's were not a glowing time for the States (Vietnam was prattling on, Nixon had begun is shenanigans, Civil Rights Movement, the deaths of Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr.). If the Soviets could have come down and said 'look, even your so called victory is just a sham, and so are you' they certainly would have, and something like that could have been devastating at the time.
But they didn't do anything like that, instead of delivering a monumental blow to American credability and prestige, they allowed it to be a victory that was watched the world over. So really, either they knew it was for real and couldn't risk the embarrassment of claiming otherwise or the monolithic KGB and very bright Soviet Space Program couldn't see the what some random independent investigators and a Fox television program did. There is interesting analysis of the photos and and film from the moon, as well as some interesting recreations floating around, nothing has really surprised me about it or pointed to it all being in Arizona.
For 9/11 things, I think it's very unlikely for the simple reason that the US Government leaks like a sieve. Really only select Black Budget military projects (which are carried out literally in the middle of the desert and probably a lot underground) can stay relatively in the dark, and most of what people think they know may be disinformation. When you talk about conspiracies of hundreds or thousands of people all over the country, things start getting less and less likely. Compound that with the amount of money and fame a single conspirator could make by coming forward with "the truth" and it gets very unlikely.
I don't doubt small numbers of people can participate in conspiracies (the Assassination of Lincoln, for example) but the more people who come into play, especially if they're government workers, the more chance that something will go wrong. There's a great quote out there, it goes something like 'More often that not, conspiracies fail, but even more often, they never existed in the first place.'
Excellant thread, loving the intelligent debates. That truthism stuff is such tripe, though. If the 'Reptiles' have kept themselves secret for thousands of years and created humans and the dinosaurs and are the higher ups controlling everything then how do they allow sites such a truthism.com to exist? They can secretly ensalve humanity but can't (here comes a ZP quote) "shut these twat-mouths up"? It seems to be the LSD inspired lunacy of a repressed nutter who saw a picture of Reptile from MK and thought "wouldn't it be cool if he controlled us?".