Nickolai77 said:Bulletinmybrain said:Agent Larkin said:Sorry after reading the posts I just realised WHY DO YOU KEEP THINKING IT WOULD BE ONE COUNTRY? If there was going to be a war between America and another Industrialised nation it would be more of a 2v1 fight.
This is my Scenario:
The US foreign policy manages to upset the world completely. all nations bar the UK and Australia back out of there alliances. Actually, germany would back out and india I believe would to seeing as we are selling them military armsThe middle-east refuses to sell America oil. America starts a proxy war in the middle-east by using Isreal. Completely agreeThe situation explodes. The EU and Russia agree on terms for America to back out of the middle-east and counteract their foreign policy. America declines. The EU and Russia launch a conventional war against the US while China eager for any opportunities invades Taiwan. America pledges support for Taiwan thus bringing China into the war against America. The Americans hold a brave fight in the PacificThey would easily win a war in the pacific, only one country actually has a naval force to sneeze at, and that is japan. China isn't the military giant people make them out to be. and Atlantic oceans but are beaten back by weight of numbers. Invasions begin with New York on the West coast and Washington state in the East. The US is pushed to the point of breaking to the mid-west. US forces are defeated in Kansas. A new government is established in the East and West. America resemblees post WW2 Germany. The end. Complete bullshit. You would literally have to kill us all.. Guns+Pissed off americans+Other people in power=FIGHT
In my opinion the Chinese are not to be sniffed at. By 2040 they will become more economically powerful than the USA- China is what America was just before WW1- a nation waiting for the current superpower (for America is what Britain, For China it will be America) to screw up so it can take its place as the worlds super power.
The key thing about China is potential, they have a lot of it. If China was to mobilise for a "Total War" situation they would out power the USA. They have a huge population to draft into the military, and half of this population has already experienced military training. Many Chinese are becoming increasingly better educated, and this better education standard will reflect in their military hardware. Already China's military hardware is considerable, not quite as advanced as Western military equipment, that may well change in the coming decades.
However China's real strength lies in its industrial capacity. China's industrial output is insane, and if all those factories where turned over to make arms, China will simply out-produce the USA. For every tank America could make, China could say, make ten more. Not only that, there would be no shortage of personal to man these tanks either. Same goes for the Chinese navy, army and airforce. For instance, German Tiger tanks where better than the American Shermans, however the Allies had a lot more Shermans than Tigers- and so Allied tanks where still able to compete with the German tanks.
In a war situation, America's hope would be for an early victory over China, using its initial advantage of military readiness, training and firepower. However if America fails to eliminate China is the first year or two of warfare, i see the war sliding in the favour of the Chinese.
The U.S's future pretty much is this: If people get fed up about the democrats quickly, then the u.s will not lose superpower status. If democrats hold power we will likely pass the torch. Also I somehow doubt china could organize anything. If you wish to do anything there you have to bribe someone. Try getting something done when you're locked at a standstill cause you don't have the money to pay the man.