Craziest conspiracy theories

[Jinx_Dragon]

Whoever made that site is a genius!

I believe why the Moon 'non-landing' gets so much attention is that it is feasible to believe, if you look at how desperate America and the USSR were to get one up on each oher, that they might have done something like that. Still untrue though.

I have a theory on this.

Indeed they where one upping each other and the USA was waaay behind in this race. They learned the USSA was about to kick the moon and shoved their own moon landing project forward as fast as they can. This meant they cut corners everywhere and led to the very real possibility that they would fail, it might not even make it too the moon!

It isn't hard to fathom that some people in the government thought 'what if we fail?' given that it was a fairly high possibility with how fast and reckless they where playing it. Being the Nixon government they formulated a plan: Lets fake the landing. If the real project is lost they could still fill the newspapers with pictures of US astronauts walking on the moon! The cover story was to be simple: The shuttle was lost in space AFTER they landed on the moon, so the US still wins!

There is a lot of stuff floating around that makes this a little more possible, and why the hoax is so well lived. Mythbusters didn't even touch of a percent of the red flags that where raised, I've seen pictures that are clearly altered (even the hoax was rushed and mistakes happened) and read testimony from some 'nut cases' who where approached to carry out such a hoax.

The problem?
The mission was a success!

The astronauts returned to earth as heros and the whole hoax was no longer required. They had luck on their side and made it back in one peace, with TONS of real footage and some rocks, that they really should of signed to make all the more valuable and sold on Ebay to fund the next moon mission.

Sadly this was still the Nixon administration... if it was another administration they might of done a better job of cleaning up after themselves. Not only did a large amount of the fakes survived, they circulated and this fueled so many of needless 'moon landing' conspiracies. All cause one criminally corrupted and incompetent administration never could do the whole 'covert' thing right!

Now to hammer this in let me quote some words you never heard before, or unless you looked them up before I said them here...


"Fate has ordained that the men who went to the Moon to explore in peace will stay on the Moon to rest in peace.

"These brave men know there is no hope for their recovery but they also know that there is hope for mankind in their sacrifice.

"These two men are laying down their lives in mankind's most noble goal: the search for truth and understanding.

"They will be mourned by their families and friends; they will be mourned by their nation; they will be mourned by the people of the world; they will be mourned by a Mother Earth that dared send two of her sons into the unknown.

"In their exploration, they stirred the people of the world to feel as one; in their sacrifice, they bind more tightly the brotherhood of man."


Those where the UNSPOKEN words of President Nixon, written for when the moon landing failed.

 

[johnzaku]

The girls scouts are linked to global warming

 

[ottenni]

/snip

Well i have allot to answer, but its good because i agree with you totally. Lets start from the top. And the subject is International Studies (I'm Australian btw so that might mean nothing to you).

Ok, as far as i know the US was origionally not going to bother with the UN because, well im not sure, im guessing they new they were going to get shut down. But if i remember correctly Colin Powell pushed for the UN's support and this ended up happening, even if it was unsuccessfully.

I'm going to leave the part about the oil because there is nothing more to be said, that is spot on.

The whole thing about democracy you wrote about makes sense to, unfortunately George Bush seemed to think he was some sort of Knight in shining armour or something so yeah. He has his beliefs and he stuck to them, and as a result he generally believed he could start a democracy in Iraq and peace and freedom for the region would follow. And as we know is stupid and has worked horribly and has added allot of credibility to Al Qaeda. And i quoted Bush because he was the one responsible for the invasion of Iraq, and seeing as that was the topic being discussed when considering the motivations his opinion is a very important (if confusing) thing.

 

[Jinx_Dragon]

Rainbow conspiracy wins my vote, hands down!

It still makes me laugh.

 

[Frybird]

Lucky Charms Cereal

See the part of Lucky Charms that is the good for you part that provide nutrients and minerals are shaped like crosses and ichthys. These are symbols of christianity. The sugary, sweet, tastey part of the cereal are shaped like pentagrams, moons, clovers etc...all traditional pagan symbols. So what they are trying to say is that christianity, while boring and tasteless, will provide you with sustenance and keep you regular, and paganism, while fun, sweet, exciting and colorful, will rot your teeth and make you fat.

Patton Oswalt rocks ^^

 

[blindthrall]

/snip

We call it Political Science. Not what I'm majoring in, but still my favorite class.

About the UN, there was a period of time before the war where Bush talked like the Iraqis could avoid war, if Saddam gave in to certain concessions, one of which was access to certain oilfields. Bush never expected Saddam to comply, but when it looked like Saddam was willing, that's when the news hit about Saddam trying to acquire "Nigerian aluminum fuel rods", never mind that anything Nigeria had, Iraq could certainly get (aluminum not covered under sanctions). They were raising the nuclear bogeyman. At that point Bush wanted to just invade, since his deadline for Saddam had passed. Powell was part of the UN appeal, but Tony Blair wouldn't commit troops without the backing of the UN. Blair basically got browbeat into it anyway. Blair is like a latter-day Chamberlain, appeasing the tyrant.

You really can't look to Bush's statements for motivation. He is completely full of shit. And he's not as stupid as people think. He's a carefully crafted product, designed to appeal to the rural base of his party. Cheney might have been the evil mastermind, but Karl Rove is a marketing genius, turning a drunken Yale fratboy into a modern-day John Wayne.

Bush Sr.:"Son, what do you want to be when you grow up? Want to be President like Daddy?"
Bush Jr.:"No. I wanna be a cowboy!"
(Cheney materializes from the shadows)
Cheney:"Why not both?"

 

[SprtnKingII]

Whoever made that site is a genius!

I believe why the Moon 'non-landing' gets so much attention is that it is feasible to believe, if you look at how desperate America and the USSR were to get one up on each oher, that they might have done something like that. Still untrue though.

I have a theory on this.

Indeed they where one upping each other and the USA was waaay behind in this race. They learned the USSA was about to kick the moon and shoved their own moon landing project forward as fast as they can. This meant they cut corners everywhere and led to the very real possibility that they would fail, it might not even make it too the moon!

It isn't hard to fathom that some people in the government thought 'what if we fail?' given that it was a fairly high possibility with how fast and reckless they where playing it. Being the Nixon government they formulated a plan: Lets fake the landing. If the real project is lost they could still fill the newspapers with pictures of US astronauts walking on the moon! The cover story was to be simple: The shuttle was lost in space AFTER they landed on the moon, so the US still wins!

There is a lot of stuff floating around that makes this a little more possible, and why the hoax is so well lived. Mythbusters didn't even touch of a percent of the red flags that where raised, I've seen pictures that are clearly altered (even the hoax was rushed and mistakes happened) and read testimony from some 'nut cases' who where approached to carry out such a hoax.

The problem?
The mission was a success!

The astronauts returned to earth as heros and the whole hoax was no longer required. They had luck on their side and made it back in one peace, with TONS of real footage and some rocks, that they really should of signed to make all the more valuable and sold on Ebay to fund the next moon mission.

Sadly this was still the Nixon administration... if it was another administration they might of done a better job of cleaning up after themselves. Not only did a large amount of the fakes survived, they circulated and this fueled so many of needless 'moon landing' conspiracies. All cause one criminally corrupted and incompetent administration never could do the whole 'covert' thing right!

Now to hammer this in let me quote some words you never heard before, or unless you looked them up before I said them here...


"Fate has ordained that the men who went to the Moon to explore in peace will stay on the Moon to rest in peace.

"These brave men know there is no hope for their recovery but they also know that there is hope for mankind in their sacrifice.

"These two men are laying down their lives in mankind's most noble goal: the search for truth and understanding.

"They will be mourned by their families and friends; they will be mourned by their nation; they will be mourned by the people of the world; they will be mourned by a Mother Earth that dared send two of her sons into the unknown.

"In their exploration, they stirred the people of the world to feel as one; in their sacrifice, they bind more tightly the brotherhood of man."


Those where the UNSPOKEN words of President Nixon, written for when the moon landing failed.

I agree.

 

[Yopaz]

Well, there are so many weird theories. 9/11 is a fake... I always say that 9/11 was the reason needed to go to war, but I really doubt this was a devious plot. If you think of it the terrorists in the plane wasn't from Iraq and that's what I say every time someone says that the government is behind it. If the government was behind it I would assume they manage to put the blame on some Iraqi terrorists.
Then there's this the world will end in 2012 thing that really makes me annoyed. The planets will all be in a line and that will be certain doom for everyone. Don't forget that CIA is building shelter so they can save the people that matters. This one is so bad I almost feel pain just from thinking of it.
Then we got the wishful thinking conspiracies. Tupac's not dead, Elvis' not dead Micheal Jackson's not dead. Those are the worst because in a lot of conspiracy theories it shows effort in finding holes in what we've been told. Such as the World Trade Center couldn't have been destroyed the way it was without demolition. That theory is interesting because none of the options are actually possible. Several tests by actual engineers think it's impossible that a building collapses that way without more than just the fire. Then again demolition crews say it's impossible that could have happened because that takes a lot of work and planning to do. Also that makes a lot of noise. Back to the case... here we got some good valid points about it being something more than what we know it for, with the death of celebrities it's usually something stupid. He chose to "die" to escape the masses. That's when bright people start rolling their eyes.

I guess I would say the worst conspiracy theory is the one about the bible being written around 300 A.D. That's because that's not a conspiracy theory, but history. I don't think it's bad for what it's trying to say, I just think it's bad for pretending to be a conspiracy theory.

 

[blindthrall]

The thing about JFK isn't that I think there had to be another gunman(although the Magic Bullet is kind of fishy) it's that Oswald acted alone. Ruby shot him before the police interrogated him, and they didn't give him a vest. Ruby appealed his trial, and died in prison before the new trial. The Warren Commission may have tagged him as the Lone Gunman, but the House led an investigation in 1979 that concluded Oswald "was probably part of a conspiracy" and that "Oswald could have only fired two of the shots that struck the President." And what about the men in trenchcoats who picked up shell casings from Dealey Plaza? I think there's two different plausible scenarios.

Foreign

Oswald was a KGB agent. Kruschev ordered Kennedy dead after the embarrassment of the Cuban missile crisis. Looking weak in front of the Politburo, he had to retaliate or risk being liquidated himself. The FBI and CIA covered it up because if the public knew, they would demand retribution against Russia, which could lead to nuclear annihilation. Oswald had spent a few years in the USSR.

Domestic

Somebody thought that Kennedy represented a threat to the nation, and possibly their own personal power. Kennedy had botched the Bay of Pigs, had come close to Armageddon during the Cuban missile crisis, and was escalating Vietnam involvement. Some unbalanced individual may have thought he was saving the country. Only one person was that crazy and that powerful: J. Edgar Hoover. Both the assassinated Kennedys tried to curb the FBI. Cuban expatriates may have been involved, as well as the CIA, which Kennedy was also trying to rein in. LBJ probably had foreknowledge, he was a slimy bastard. Hoover died not long after and burned all his personal files.

Personally I favor foreign involvement. Most Soviet files were destroyed, so we'll never know.I doubt the mob had anything to do with it. Some wiseguy would gotten popped and tried to trade information on the assassination for a pardon. The mob hasn't been able to keep a secret since the eighties.

Or maybe Joe DiMaggio shot him for banging Marilyn Monroe, and MLB covered it up.

 

[Altorin]

I am curious about the moon thing .. how did they have wind on the moon to make the flag blow in the non existing breeze?

Also, how did Lee Harvey Oswalt end up firing a shot from one side and then fired an uber shot that went around the world to come in from the other side of his head too? That is some fancy shooting!

the fact that there was no air on the moon caused the flag to move more then if there had been air but no wind.

Stuff like cloth, while on earth, stops waving because of air resistance. On the moon, if you touch a flag, it will keep moving until the friction of each stitch of its fabric moving causes it to slow and finally stop. There's no air to create a stopping force on the moving flag.

 

[ottenni]

/snip

We call it Political Science. Not what I'm majoring in, but still my favorite class.

About the UN, there was a period of time before the war where Bush talked like the Iraqis could avoid war, if Saddam gave in to certain concessions, one of which was access to certain oilfields. Bush never expected Saddam to comply, but when it looked like Saddam was willing, that's when the news hit about Saddam trying to acquire "Nigerian aluminum fuel rods", never mind that anything Nigeria had, Iraq could certainly get (aluminum not covered under sanctions). They were raising the nuclear bogeyman. At that point Bush wanted to just invade, since his deadline for Saddam had passed. Powell was part of the UN appeal, but Tony Blair wouldn't commit troops without the backing of the UN. Blair basically got browbeat into it anyway. Blair is like a latter-day Chamberlain, appeasing the tyrant.

You really can't look to Bush's statements for motivation. He is completely full of shit. And he's not as stupid as people think. He's a carefully crafted product, designed to appeal to the rural base of his party. Cheney might have been the evil mastermind, but Karl Rove is a marketing genius, turning a drunken Yale fratboy into a modern-day John Wayne.

Bush Sr.:"Son, what do you want to be when you grow up? Want to be President like Daddy?"
Bush Jr.:"No. I wanna be a cowboy!"
(Cheney materializes from the shadows)
Cheney:"Why not both?"

Well i wont have to go into such detail if (and thats a big if) i get a question about that in the exam. I realized that whole part about Bush being full of shit and Cheney being the brain behind things when i studied this. He appeared to be more of a scapegoat and a figurehead than a leader to me. And the reason i used that Bush quote is because in one of my textbooks there is a massive table with pros and cons towards possible reasons towards an invasion of Iraq and that one fitted the context in which we were previously discussing.

 

[blindthrall]

/snip

No shit. That is now officially what I think of that.

As long as we're talking about sane explanations that aren't the official version(when the official version smells like a coverup), a standard practice of Psyops is misdirection. When something happens that they don't want people to know about, it's worthwhile to leak a completely insane cover story. It's called a smokescreen. Conspiracy theorists will latch onto the sensationalized parts and crow them everywhere, while rational people become annoyed and assume that nothing happened. Nobody pays attention to the middle ground. See Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion or the MJ-12 papers for examples of what's basically political trolling.

Roswell UFO was a primitive Russian observation device. The Air Force officer interviewed used aliens as a smokescreen. The government didn't want people to know that the Russians were spying on us from the sky. It probably did look something like a weather balloon. And knowing the Reds, they may very well have put actual people in it, leading to the reports of bodies at the crash.

This one is a little more out there, and it supposedly comes from a particle wave physicist that worked at Area 51. Apparently Area 51 doesn't have any UFOs, again, the aliens are just smokescreen. At the end of his life, Nicola Tesla claimed to be working on a death ray that could torch planes out of the sky. The government seized all his notes upon death, and supposedly a small prototype. They then expanded that prototype and housed it in a 400-foot trench at Area 51. The beam has a major flaw. It takes a large number of oscillations to generate any kind of heat, and short wavelengths dissipate too easily, so it's only effective at extreme distances. The height in the atmosphere that it becomes deadly is also where oxygen gets sparse, so the beam doesn't have anything to burn. When trained on a test plane, the pilot only reported feeling somewhat hot and itchy. But at the end of the beam, oxygen in the air burns in a disc-shaped ball of plasma. This would account for some UFOs insane maneuverability-its basically someone playing with a giant laser pointer. Here's the really interesting part: those plasma discs show up on radar. Imagine the havoc that would play with an enemies air defense, seeing a hundred bogies while only a dozen are real. Now reflect that the US has been dominant in the air since the Gulf War. Think about how useful that system would be if the enemy knew about it. The secrecy around Area 51 makes more sense now doesn't it?

 

[CheeseSandwichCake]

That cake, yes cake, is indeed a lie.

 

[Pyro Paul]

the absolute worst conspiracy theory i've ever heard was 'Nuclear Weapons don't Exist'.

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

You need to get your facts straight the moon landing wasn't reenacted in area 51 it was reenacted on Mars obviously.

Don't challenge me to a get-your-facts-straight battle. My ludicrous facts will crush yours.
Now, a fight with nohz or chain or britvah, well...

 

[TikiShades]

All of the presidents except Lincoln and Kennedy are related to the British bloodline. Directly related. Including Obama. So we're still under British rule, but we don't know it.

Also, Time Cube.

 

[thylasos]

The Thulegemeinschaft was a pretty cool one. I'd say games have probably propagated that the most.

 

[George Palmer]

Lucky Charms Cereal

See the part of Lucky Charms that is the good for you part that provide nutrients and minerals are shaped like crosses and ichthys. These are symbols of christianity. The sugary, sweet, tastey part of the cereal are shaped like pentagrams, moons, clovers etc...all traditional pagan symbols. So what they are trying to say is that christianity, while boring and tasteless, will provide you with sustenance and keep you regular, and paganism, while fun, sweet, exciting and colorful, will rot your teeth and make you fat.

Patton Oswalt rocks ^^

Your the devil and you just made me pee my pants!

LOL