God speaks of lesser punishment for those that do not hear and those that die before an age of accountability go to heaven (ie those that die young before they realize they are a sinner). Also this is why the Bible is adamant about reaching others.Deadpoolsbrain said:Torturing people for the rest of eternity for not believing in you? That's not acting like a ****? So people born in families of different religions or never learned of christianity (like back way back when) Christians don't realise what they are saying when they go I believe that most of the world is going to hell dur... Well I am sorry but the god you described is a douche. At least the Norse gods and Greek gods didn't punish people who never knew their religion. So yes in short you can't see what a **** your (and I do mean your since you are in the minority of christians who believe as you do) god is.sneakypenguin said:No He gives an easy way for salvation but he also gave man a free will so..... Hows that being a "c*^t? if steam said click on link and type in l4d to get a free game, and you went to facebook and updated your status would they be evil for saying no game for you?Deadpoolsbrain said:So basically your god's a **** and you can't see it by your logic.
Weird analogy I know.![]()
Actualy, there's a good many Christians that have such belief, which is why they try so hard to spread thier word. They don't want people to burn so they reach out to as many as they can. And Norse and Greek gods did torture unbelievers. If you weren't brought iunder the protection of one of them, you ended up in a form of limbo to either drift aimlessly forever or to be piled into a wall of tortured souls or some other such hellish form of eternity. Course also in Greek and especialy Norse religion, you could spend your entire life being faithful to a single god just for him or her to reject you upon death, forcing you to either seek out another god (like any of them would listen to you plees now!) or roam aimlessly through limbo.Deadpoolsbrain said:Torturing people for the rest of eternity for not believing in you? That's not acting like a ****? So people born in families of different religions or never learned of christianity (like back way back when) Christians don't realise what they are saying when they go I believe that most of the world is going to hell dur... Well I am sorry but the god you described is a douche. At least the Norse gods and Greek gods didn't punish people who never knew their religion. So yes in short you can't see what a **** your (and I do mean your since you are in the minority of christians who believe as you do) god is.sneakypenguin said:No He gives an easy way for salvation but he also gave man a free will so..... Hows that being a "c*^t? if steam said click on link and type in l4d to get a free game, and you went to facebook and updated your status would they be evil for saying no game for you?Deadpoolsbrain said:So basically your god's a **** and you can't see it by your logic.
Weird analogy I know.![]()
Oh goody lesser punishment yippee! So excited! No fuck that, plus that's just bullshit propagated by Dante's inferno, unless you bring up the bible quote I am inclined to call shenanigans.sneakypenguin said:God speaks of lesser punishment for those that do not hear and those that die before an age of accountability go to heaven (ie those that die young before they realize they are a sinner). Also this is why the Bible is adamant about reaching others.Deadpoolsbrain said:Torturing people for the rest of eternity for not believing in you? That's not acting like a ****? So people born in families of different religions or never learned of christianity (like back way back when) Christians don't realise what they are saying when they go I believe that most of the world is going to hell dur... Well I am sorry but the god you described is a douche. At least the Norse gods and Greek gods didn't punish people who never knew their religion. So yes in short you can't see what a **** your (and I do mean your since you are in the minority of christians who believe as you do) god is.sneakypenguin said:No He gives an easy way for salvation but he also gave man a free will so..... Hows that being a "c*^t? if steam said click on link and type in l4d to get a free game, and you went to facebook and updated your status would they be evil for saying no game for you?Deadpoolsbrain said:So basically your god's a **** and you can't see it by your logic.
Weird analogy I know.![]()
What are you talking about? The place where the majority of people who died in Greek mythology went to a shadowy limboesque that wasn't that bad you just relived your life. The places where we get the majority of Norse mythology only speak of true heros going to Asgard and evil people going to hel (which a lot of people think was influenced because a monk wrote it down) so we don't know where the majority went.New Troll said:Actualy, there's a good many Christians that have such belief, which is why they try so hard to spread thier word. They don't want people to burn so they reach out to as many as they can. And Norse and Greek gods did torture unbelievers. If you weren't brought iunder the protection of one of them, you ended up in a form of limbo to either drift aimlessly forever or to be piled into a wall of tortured souls or some other such hellish form of eternity. Course also in Greek and especialy Norse religion, you could spend your entire life being faithful to a single god just for him or her to reject you upon death, forcing you to either seek out another god (like any of them would listen to you plees now!) or roam aimlessly through limbo.Deadpoolsbrain said:Torturing people for the rest of eternity for not believing in you? That's not acting like a ****? So people born in families of different religions or never learned of christianity (like back way back when) Christians don't realise what they are saying when they go I believe that most of the world is going to hell dur... Well I am sorry but the god you described is a douche. At least the Norse gods and Greek gods didn't punish people who never knew their religion. So yes in short you can't see what a **** your (and I do mean your since you are in the minority of christians who believe as you do) god is.sneakypenguin said:No He gives an easy way for salvation but he also gave man a free will so..... Hows that being a "c*^t? if steam said click on link and type in l4d to get a free game, and you went to facebook and updated your status would they be evil for saying no game for you?Deadpoolsbrain said:So basically your god's a **** and you can't see it by your logic.
Weird analogy I know.![]()
First thing I found in my concordance.Deadpoolsbrain said:Oh goody lesser punishment yippee! So excited! No fuck that, plus that's just bullshit propagated by Dante's inferno, unless you bring up the bible quote I am inclined to call shenanigans.
Ok no shenanigans shall be called, but I still say your god is a petty ass.sneakypenguin said:First thing I found in my concordance.Deadpoolsbrain said:Oh goody lesser punishment yippee! So excited! No fuck that, plus that's just bullshit propagated by Dante's inferno, unless you bring up the bible quote I am inclined to call shenanigans.
21Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
22But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.
23And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
24But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.
According to the above passages (and also John 9:41, 15:22, 24), those with greater knowledge of God (via exposure to the Gospel, ) will be held more accountable and consequently receive greater punishment than those who are ignorant through no fault of their own. Allowance is also made for children too young to be held responsible for their actions (Dt 1:27-28, 34-39).
Haha, you're trying to argue religions that have hundreds of different versions depending on who's stories or poems you're reading. No one knows for sure what the common belief was (if there even was one) because none of us were alive back then. That's why I was being as broad as I possibly could. All we have to go by is what works of literature still exist to this day, which all vary depending upon the author.Deadpoolsbrain said:What are you talking about? The place where the majority of people who died in Greek mythology went to a shadowy limboesque that wasn't that bad you just relived your life. The places where we get the majority of Norse mythology only speak of true heros going to Asgard and evil people going to hel (which a lot of people think was influenced because a monk wrote it down) so we don't know where the majority went.
The Religions of Abraham are your bitches I see.SimuLord said:I'm very religious (polytheist in the Greco-Roman/Norse tradition) and wouldn't (and didn't) date people who were monotheistic from the major monotheist faiths. They're just too intolerant and morally bothersome to me---the differences create (and created) too much tension. I'd use Christian girls for sex as a personal Eff-You to their zealot hypocrisy (always fun to see them cry afterward when they felt like sluts), but I wouldn't get seriously involved with one.
I married an agnostic, but if I weren't married I'd be willing to date anyone who was either an atheist (though not a militant Hitchens/Dawkins/Jillette "gods are for idiots" asshole), an agnostic, a pagan, a Wiccan, or any other non-traditional (including Eastern) faith. Just no Christians, Jews, or Muslims for me, please.
i woudlnt date someone that wasnt atheist...SoonerMatt said:This topic came up during a conversation I had just a few minutes earlier and one of the things I heard that really irked me was "I would not feel comfortable if she was dating someone who wasn't a Christian." When probed, this person said that it just "didn't feel right" that two people with different beliefs couldn't be together.
I knew I wanted to say something, but not wanting to offend anyone or piss them off, I instead just bit my tongue and listened in. The gist of the conversation was just that: Dating outside of your faith, be it a Christian dating a Muslim or an atheist dating someone of any faith, just gave a weird vibe to most of the people in the conversation and it made me wish I had a scotch to better ignore them with.
So what are your thoughts on this? Being agnostic and having dated Christians and Buddhists I see nothing wrong with dating people who have faith when I don't (as long as I keep my mouth shut). I can see some strife between people of 2 different faiths dating, but I can't see faith being the ultimate breaking point if 2 people care about the other for who they are.
lolzteutonicman said:At least trolling the other person's religion would provide entertainment.
I dated a polythiest (Wikkan I believe) and we had some great conversation. I learned more about Mysticism from her than from all my years of gaming and reading cultish books. We both really liked each other's open-mindedness about religion and never once did our debates get out of hand. Eventualy we both had to move in different directions, so I don't know if we ever could have made it as a couple, but the time we shared was definitely pleasurable. Plus, oh my God did she look really good in black! Not generally into the goth look, but that wasn't what she was going for anyways.SimuLord said:I'm very religious (polytheist in the Greco-Roman/Norse tradition) and wouldn't (and didn't) date people who were monotheistic from the major monotheist faiths. They're just too intolerant and morally bothersome to me---the differences create (and created) too much tension. I'd use Christian girls for sex as a personal Eff-You to their zealot hypocrisy (always fun to see them cry afterward when they felt like sluts), but I wouldn't get seriously involved with one.
I married an agnostic, but if I weren't married I'd be willing to date anyone who was either an atheist (though not a militant Hitchens/Dawkins/Jillette "gods are for idiots" asshole), an agnostic, a pagan, a Wiccan, or any other non-traditional (including Eastern) faith. Just no Christians, Jews, or Muslims for me, please.