Dev admits DNF was dumbed down for consoles.
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Oh dear Lord. I have no intention of picking up this game. It simply doesn't interest me. But The Duke only being able to carry two weapons? This needs to be fixed before the release. This...this is just wrong. These types of games are supposed to be over the top. This will cripple it.
After reading this, I am now done with Duke Nukem - when I watched the teaser and saw his health (Ego) regenerate I was teetering, but now a two weapon limit?!
What about that Homing Rocket gun, that has only 5 shots? Are you telling me that I will drop my shotgun to shoot 5 times and then backtrack to it and pick it up again?
What about the (dumbed down) starter pistol? Does that count as a slot?
So basically this is gonna be a game that you hide behind bushes and get full life, are always carrying your Machine Gun and your Shotgun, except until you are basically forced by context to pick up the railgun cause your in a sports stadium or other set-piece sniper galley.
What about that Homing Rocket gun, that has only 5 shots? Are you telling me that I will drop my shotgun to shoot 5 times and then backtrack to it and pick it up again?
What about the (dumbed down) starter pistol? Does that count as a slot?
So basically this is gonna be a game that you hide behind bushes and get full life, are always carrying your Machine Gun and your Shotgun, except until you are basically forced by context to pick up the railgun cause your in a sports stadium or other set-piece sniper galley.
And you don't even get your foot as an additional weapon. Why would you take away one of his feet thats just cruel <.<gideonkain said:
So provided this is true, the developers of duke nukem want to create an innovative fps by copying the most popular fps's on the market. Classy, and they just couldn't be bothered to implement a better button mapping scheme like pausing the game or holding a shoulder button (or trigger) and using a dpad to select a weapon. Well I can see why it might be off putting to spend time on that with such a harsh deadline of 14 years for development.
Oh, I'm not discriminating. I hate ALL fpses on consoles. Its an abomination of the gaming world and I honestly believe the world would be better off if consoles had never seen an fps title.Morgan Howe said:
I played turok when it first arrived on the N64.
My first thought was: Fuck yeah! Dinosaurs!
My second thought was: Omg! This looks beautiful. The arrows stick in the prey and there is a weapon that fires worms to crawl into the brains of your enemies! (or was that in a sequel)
My third thought was: Fuck it. Why do I have to aim with this utter shithole of a controller? And I gave it up. And it hasnt improved since that in any mentionable way!
PC users play with the mouse and consolers still muck about with those stupid little sticks. God its like watching a car with square wheels being hailed as a great invention in 2011. There is a better option! Use it already!
/Rant off
That said. I have owned consoles since the days of the Sega Master system, still do and firmly believe that some games belong on the consoles and some on the PC. A mouse/keyboard is better for some stuff, a gamepad is better for some stuff. Thats just the way it is. You wouldnt want to dig a ditch with a fork, no matter how much you love forks.
That is bullshit and they know it! Consoles had FPS games with more than two weapons LONG before Halo started the two-gun craze. This is just them pulling an excuse out of their ass, and pandering to the PC Whiners Gamers to get a few more sales bygoing "See? It's not OUR fault the game is not that good! We had to make changes for the console crowd! We had to uhhh "dumb it down"! That's the phrase you guys always say all the time, right? Yeah, that's what we did for the consoles! So it's CNOSOLE GAMER'S fault, see? *Nervous laughter*"
But the PC Gamers are gonna eat this up, saying "SEE?! PROOF THAT CONSOLES ARE DUMBING DOWN GAMING! WE WERE RIGHT! SEE? PC GMAERS ARE SO MUCH BETTER, AND THIS IS PROOF!" As if they needed more reasons to have their heads up their asses.
I still think the game is gonna be good. Nothing special, but good. But I can't stand it when devs make excuses, and I REALLY hate it when devs resort to pandering. And pandering to a bunch of people who will ***** about the game anyway to try and justify a design choice that isn't really that bad (I don't like it, but I don't hate it either.) just sickens me.
But the PC Gamers are gonna eat this up, saying "SEE?! PROOF THAT CONSOLES ARE DUMBING DOWN GAMING! WE WERE RIGHT! SEE? PC GMAERS ARE SO MUCH BETTER, AND THIS IS PROOF!" As if they needed more reasons to have their heads up their asses.
I still think the game is gonna be good. Nothing special, but good. But I can't stand it when devs make excuses, and I REALLY hate it when devs resort to pandering. And pandering to a bunch of people who will ***** about the game anyway to try and justify a design choice that isn't really that bad (I don't like it, but I don't hate it either.) just sickens me.
Two words: weapon wheel. How hard was that Gearbox? You hit a button, the wheel pops up, and you scroll with the analog stick. Oh my god, that is so hard to implement!
The Ego meter is DNFs version of the regenerating healthbar. Duke can never die, his ego just gets bruised. Naturally the logical thing for Duke is to hide and lick his wounds. Goddamnit. The demo was a rollercoaster of emotions. Some fantastic looping and a flat section dull enough to make you go blind. I really dont know to expect, but I think the game will be the same. A stinking turd of could-have-beens littered with diamonds.thiosk said:
No, it's dumbed down for developers who go slack eyed at the mention of a weapon wheel.
They can do whatever they want with their weapon system, but don't blame it on the consoles because they can easily handle more than two guns.
They can do whatever they want with their weapon system, but don't blame it on the consoles because they can easily handle more than two guns.
I said consoles makes you dumb! WATCH WHAT THEY DID TO DUKE!!11!!1! IF NOT CONSOLES WITH THEIR HALOS THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED111!!!!11!11
Was I first to blame consoles? Anyway that was half serious joke. Don't want any flame war.
Anyway I am happy I preordered ALICE and I think she can beat this "Duke".
Oh and there will be "Duke Nukem: Forever: For Real This Time: Episode 1 " where they will explain that this duke is imposter made by aliens to beat real duke but since he was made out of real dukes sweat he turned against aliens to save babes. Hopefully
SO WAITING FOR ZERO PUNCTUATIONS "Duke Nukem forever: REVISITED" xD
Was I first to blame consoles? Anyway that was half serious joke. Don't want any flame war.
Anyway I am happy I preordered ALICE and I think she can beat this "Duke".
Oh and there will be "Duke Nukem: Forever: For Real This Time: Episode 1 " where they will explain that this duke is imposter made by aliens to beat real duke but since he was made out of real dukes sweat he turned against aliens to save babes. Hopefully
SO WAITING FOR ZERO PUNCTUATIONS "Duke Nukem forever: REVISITED" xD
Which sucked due to watering it down for the masses, next.9_6 said:
BS and DNK would not be made rather we would have have System shock 3 and 3 Duke FPSs by now on the PC if it were not for the consoles which have allowed for a gutting of qaulity designs and sequels, instead what we get are knock offs of knocks offs rather than minor deviations from what works well.
Actually, you are discriminating. But you're discriminating in the "That dog bit me, so I'll just avoid those types of dogs from now on" kind of way. All discrimination means is you have a set difference in your mind about certain things. Discrimination has a negative connotation because...well, you know. But then the phrase "A man of discriminating tastes" usually refers to refined preferences.tzimize said:
/off-topic lesson and me being a loser on the internet.
that was actually pretty interestingDustyDrB said:
does anyone know how mod friendky the engine will be?