Having actually played through the game and picked Tali as the romance option, I can confirm that it is just as bad as I was hoping that it wouldn't be.Internet Kraken said:Snip.
I mean, GODDAMNIT.
Having actually played through the game and picked Tali as the romance option, I can confirm that it is just as bad as I was hoping that it wouldn't be.Internet Kraken said:Snip.
As for the first one, it's well established that Quarians are terrified of the Geth and are angry because of what their punishment is for creating them. Understandable and certainly doesn't make her a racist.Internet Kraken said:Well she doesn't say that she is planning to kill Garrus. She says that she has already planned out ways to kill Legion, which is just as bad.
So yeah, the big rant of hers makes it sound like the lack of an immune system is a really big problem. But apparently it isn't. All you have to is take some anti-biotics before having inter-species romance and you'll be ready to slay space bugs the next day with nothing more than a cough!
I thought it was sweet.scotth266 said:Having actually played through the game and picked Tali as the romance option, I can confirm that it is just as bad as I was hoping that it wouldn't be.Internet Kraken said:Snip.
I mean, GODDAMNIT.
Yes, but it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible for Shepard to be steralized since nothing on the Normandy seems to be able to steralize you. Except maybe the airlock but thats just basic steralization, assuming it works the same way as the airlock from Mass Effect 1.AndyFromMonday said:And again I have to repeat myself. She took loads of antibiotics and herbal supplements to be with Shepard. The good doc also recommended Shep to completely sterilize before doing the deed.Irridium said:Its last minute because through the entire first game almost every conversation about the quarians implied that they need to keep their suits on to survive. Even on the Migrant Fleet, the only time they can take off the suits is to reproduce, and even then they have to do it on incrediably sterile ships.
Plus, even in Mass Effect 2, there are plenty of situations which state that quarians wneed their suits on to survive.
Again, you need to realize that she still got sick even after doing all of this. Yes, if Quarians take their suits off without the neccesarry protections they can die due to illness. If they take the neccesarry protection then a major cold is what they will get.
Your example with a Quarian in his prime getting sick because his suit was barely "scratched" is also flawed. The man was shot, his flesh was probably scratched or he had a deep wound depending on whether the bullet penetrated or not. It's obvious to even the most stupid mind that if you have no immune system and you have even a scratch the chance of infection is 100%.
Also, the armament do not use conventional bullets so the argument that the heat of the bullet prevents infection does not count here since he was not shot with a bullet.
If you talk to Mordin after the suicide mission, having chosen Tali as the romance option, he'll mention it. Then you can ask him for advice, and it's hilarious.Irridium said:See above.
And I just don't see how 1 Quarian who is in peak physical condition can get put out for a week because of a small infection while Tali can just take "lots of antibiotics and other things" and take off her entire suit and still live.
It just feels tacked on due to fan request.
And would this Salarian Super geneticist be Mordin? Because if so I don't remember this... sounds hilarious, granted he is a funny person.
I agree. Seriously, why is everyone making a big deal out of this? They clearly state that she took immunizations and herbal supplements prior to exposure. Kal' Reeger didn't. Plus I think an open bullet wound in a non-sterilized environment generally would get you a shit ton more sick than just physical contact in a fairly sterilized area.JeanLuc761 said:As for the first one, it's well established that Quarians are terrified of the Geth and are angry because of what their punishment is for creating them. Understandable and certainly doesn't make her a racist.Internet Kraken said:Well she doesn't say that she is planning to kill Garrus. She says that she has already planned out ways to kill Legion, which is just as bad.
So yeah, the big rant of hers makes it sound like the lack of an immune system is a really big problem. But apparently it isn't. All you have to is take some anti-biotics before having inter-species romance and you'll be ready to slay space bugs the next day with nothing more than a cough!
Secondly, I wouldn't exactly call a week or of antibiotic treatments and herbal supplements to be a simple "get out of jail free" card as you seem to think it is. That takes an immense amount of dedication and given that Mordin is one of the best scientists in the galaxy I can fully believe it's possible to temporarily overcome her weakened immune system.
As for Kal'Reeger getting knocked out for a week, that's a very different situation. He was shot in a non-sterile environment and wouldn't have been able to prepare (a full week) for that. The Normandy is sterile, Shepard cleaned himself up, and Tali boosted her immune system so that they could at LEAST kiss before the final battle. I'm personally having a hard time punching holes in the logic here.
Huh, didn't know that.Agayek said:If you talk to Mordin after the suicide mission, having chosen Tali as the romance option, he'll mention it. Then you can ask him for advice, and it's hilarious.
Then you can get him to sing, which is even more hilarious.
But he was prepared for it. He was on a top secret mission deep in Geth space, something tells me they would plan for a suit breach.Theron Julius said:I agree. Seriously, why is everyone making a big deal out of this? They clearly state that she took immunizations and herbal supplements prior to exposure. Kal' Reeger didn't. Plus I think an open bullet wound in a non-sterilized environment generally would get you a shit ton more sick than just physical contact in a fairly sterilized area.
Offhand, do you know what the exact wording of why he's down for the week is?Irridium said:Yes, but it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible for Shepard to be steralized since nothing on the Normandy seems to be able to steralize you. Except maybe the airlock but thats just basic steralization, assuming it works the same way as the airlock from Mass Effect 1.
And I know that the weapons in the Mass Effect universe don't use bullets. But I do know that they fire super-heated slugs. So the argument of the heat killing immediate chances of infection are still valid. Not to mention the planet is basically bathed in radiation, which would kill a good amount of the bacteria there.
Hmmm your link is to Deviantart. Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yeah I don't believe you.Donttazemehbro said:ok.... this is what an original quarian concept art was
LOOK IT UP THIS IS NOT FAN ART. THIS IS THE REAL THING. YOU TELL ME IF SHE IS HOT
http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs27/f/2009/239/e/c/ec0f0c57ffc26c7f77970f90ef9c2735.png
yeah i just noticed that, but ive seen this on a website other than deviantart, yeah i looked at the link and said, oh shit. But trust me, i know someone on the dev team, he says that this is sort of close to what she looks like.T3h Merc said:Hmmm your link is to Deviantart. Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yeah I don't believe you.Donttazemehbro said:ok.... this is what an original quarian concept art was
LOOK IT UP THIS IS NOT FAN ART. THIS IS THE REAL THING. YOU TELL ME IF SHE IS HOT
http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs27/f/2009/239/e/c/ec0f0c57ffc26c7f77970f90ef9c2735.png
I'm not sure if this one applies because I could walk around that damn planet without my helmet on and I didn't have any trouble.Irridium said:Not to mention, as I said above, the planet is basically bathed in radiation, which could possibly have killed much of the bacteria that was on the planet.
Why couldn't bacteria have evolved to survive in that radiation?Irridium said:But he was prepared for it. He was on a top secret mission deep in Geth space, something tells me they would plan for a suit breach.
Not to mention, as I said above, the planet is basically bathed in radiation, which could possibly have killed much of the bacteria that was on the planet.
It's not understandable. Everything that happened as a result of the Geth Rebellions is the Quarians fault. It's been over 260 years and they still believe that the Geth are nothing more than violent machines. Legion said that the Geth are open to peace, "but in situations when the Creators believed victory against Geth was possible, they have attacked 100% of the time". The reason the two races are constantly at each other throats is because Quarians, like Tali, can not let go of their grudge against the Geth. She is racist. If she wasn't racist, she wouldn't have planned out several ways to kill the Geth that has helped the team numerous times.JeanLuc761 said:As for the first one, it's well established that Quarians are terrified of the Geth and are angry because of what their punishment is for creating them. Understandable and certainly doesn't make her a racist.
This is an incredibly weak justification. Tali implies that the Quarians have next to no immune system. It would take plot-convenient miracle drugs to overcome this, which the game apparently produces. This should not be possible. But of course, since fans demanded it in droves it happened.Secondly, I wouldn't exactly call a week or of antibiotic treatments and herbal supplements to be a simple "get out of jail free" card as you seem to think it is. That takes an immense amount of dedication and given that Mordin is one of the best scientists in the galaxy I can fully believe it's possible to temporarily overcome her weakened immune system.
RedMenace said:The difference is that throughout the entirety of ME1, Ash was snapping at Liara for no apparent reasons with comments bordering on "You are alien so you have only one right - to shut up". Tali's hatred of Legion, on the other hand is well justified.Internet Kraken said:Didn't a lot of people hate Ashley because she was "racist"?TsunamiWombat said:I find Tali attractive because of her personality. And her tight body suit. But alot of it is her personality.
So shouldn't we hate Tali for the same reason? If anything Tali is a bigger racist than Ashley. I don't remember Ashley implying that she had already planned out several ways to kill Garrus just because he was a Turian. Same can't be said for Tali.
Dont forget that Legion is a GETH. A race of machines that have been (until now) systematically attacking every world populated by organic life forms and showed no desire to communicate. If you talk to any other member of the crew, they are also more than apprehensive of Legion (Joker and James I know for sure, with James suggesting to vent 'it' into space).
P.S: Technically, Tali's accent is not "Russian", its more of a "Jewish". People tend to confuse those because majority of so called "Russian immigrants" are actually of Jewish background. (Hides behind the flame resistant wall)