Do people actually believe Tali will be hot?

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scotth266

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Internet Kraken said:
Having actually played through the game and picked Tali as the romance option, I can confirm that it is just as bad as I was hoping that it wouldn't be.

I mean, GODDAMNIT.
 

JeanLuc761

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Internet Kraken said:
Well she doesn't say that she is planning to kill Garrus. She says that she has already planned out ways to kill Legion, which is just as bad.

So yeah, the big rant of hers makes it sound like the lack of an immune system is a really big problem. But apparently it isn't. All you have to is take some anti-biotics before having inter-species romance and you'll be ready to slay space bugs the next day with nothing more than a cough!
As for the first one, it's well established that Quarians are terrified of the Geth and are angry because of what their punishment is for creating them. Understandable and certainly doesn't make her a racist.

Secondly, I wouldn't exactly call a week or of antibiotic treatments and herbal supplements to be a simple "get out of jail free" card as you seem to think it is. That takes an immense amount of dedication and given that Mordin is one of the best scientists in the galaxy I can fully believe it's possible to temporarily overcome her weakened immune system.

As for Kal'Reeger getting knocked out for a week, that's a very different situation. He was shot in a non-sterile environment and wouldn't have been able to prepare (a full week) for that. The Normandy is sterile, Shepard cleaned himself up, and Tali boosted her immune system so that they could at LEAST kiss before the final battle. I'm personally having a hard time punching holes in the logic here.
 

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scotth266 said:
Internet Kraken said:
Having actually played through the game and picked Tali as the romance option, I can confirm that it is just as bad as I was hoping that it wouldn't be.

I mean, GODDAMNIT.
I thought it was sweet.
 

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Well all women in Mass Effect have killer bodies, so it's hard to really judge how "hawt" one character is supposed to be compared to another since it all seems to be the same basic model. Gene engineering I guess. Not one fatso of any race, or either gender, except for maybe the Volus and we have no idea what they look like really, it could all be due to the enviromental suits (which oddly do not vary much between individuals).

With faces being the most distinctive feature, it's hard to say. However my thoughts on a lulz revelation for Tali would be for her to open her mask and reveal something similar to an Angler fish in there with two glowing eyes. :)

We'll see what happens though, I expect she will be cute, if not stunningly beautiful. The voice made me think of short red hair and freckles for some reason.
 
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Irridium said:
Its last minute because through the entire first game almost every conversation about the quarians implied that they need to keep their suits on to survive. Even on the Migrant Fleet, the only time they can take off the suits is to reproduce, and even then they have to do it on incrediably sterile ships.

Plus, even in Mass Effect 2, there are plenty of situations which state that quarians wneed their suits on to survive.
And again I have to repeat myself. She took loads of antibiotics and herbal supplements to be with Shepard. The good doc also recommended Shep to completely sterilize before doing the deed.

Again, you need to realize that she still got sick even after doing all of this. Yes, if Quarians take their suits off without the neccesarry protections they can die due to illness. If they take the neccesarry protection then a major cold is what they will get.

Your example with a Quarian in his prime getting sick because his suit was barely "scratched" is also flawed. The man was shot, his flesh was probably scratched or he had a deep wound depending on whether the bullet penetrated or not. It's obvious to even the most stupid mind that if you have no immune system and you have even a scratch the chance of infection is 100%.

Also, the armament do not use conventional bullets so the argument that the heat of the bullet prevents infection does not count here since he was not shot with a bullet.
Yes, but it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible for Shepard to be steralized since nothing on the Normandy seems to be able to steralize you. Except maybe the airlock but thats just basic steralization, assuming it works the same way as the airlock from Mass Effect 1.

And I know that the weapons in the Mass Effect universe don't use bullets. But I do know that they fire super-heated slugs. So the argument of the heat killing immediate chances of infection are still valid. Not to mention the planet is basically bathed in radiation, which would kill a good amount of the bacteria there.
 

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Irridium said:
See above.

And I just don't see how 1 Quarian who is in peak physical condition can get put out for a week because of a small infection while Tali can just take "lots of antibiotics and other things" and take off her entire suit and still live.

It just feels tacked on due to fan request.

And would this Salarian Super geneticist be Mordin? Because if so I don't remember this... sounds hilarious, granted he is a funny person.
If you talk to Mordin after the suicide mission, having chosen Tali as the romance option, he'll mention it. Then you can ask him for advice, and it's hilarious.

Then you can get him to sing, which is even more hilarious.
 

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JeanLuc761 said:
Internet Kraken said:
Well she doesn't say that she is planning to kill Garrus. She says that she has already planned out ways to kill Legion, which is just as bad.

So yeah, the big rant of hers makes it sound like the lack of an immune system is a really big problem. But apparently it isn't. All you have to is take some anti-biotics before having inter-species romance and you'll be ready to slay space bugs the next day with nothing more than a cough!
As for the first one, it's well established that Quarians are terrified of the Geth and are angry because of what their punishment is for creating them. Understandable and certainly doesn't make her a racist.

Secondly, I wouldn't exactly call a week or of antibiotic treatments and herbal supplements to be a simple "get out of jail free" card as you seem to think it is. That takes an immense amount of dedication and given that Mordin is one of the best scientists in the galaxy I can fully believe it's possible to temporarily overcome her weakened immune system.

As for Kal'Reeger getting knocked out for a week, that's a very different situation. He was shot in a non-sterile environment and wouldn't have been able to prepare (a full week) for that. The Normandy is sterile, Shepard cleaned himself up, and Tali boosted her immune system so that they could at LEAST kiss before the final battle. I'm personally having a hard time punching holes in the logic here.
I agree. Seriously, why is everyone making a big deal out of this? They clearly state that she took immunizations and herbal supplements prior to exposure. Kal' Reeger didn't. Plus I think an open bullet wound in a non-sterilized environment generally would get you a shit ton more sick than just physical contact in a fairly sterilized area.
 

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Meh, I don't mind not seeing what Tali looks like, I was boring and decided to stay with my love-intrest from the first game.


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Agayek said:
If you talk to Mordin after the suicide mission, having chosen Tali as the romance option, he'll mention it. Then you can ask him for advice, and it's hilarious.

Then you can get him to sing, which is even more hilarious.
Huh, didn't know that.

I knew I could get him to sing though, I love it.

Ah, Mordin's awsome...

Theron Julius said:
I agree. Seriously, why is everyone making a big deal out of this? They clearly state that she took immunizations and herbal supplements prior to exposure. Kal' Reeger didn't. Plus I think an open bullet wound in a non-sterilized environment generally would get you a shit ton more sick than just physical contact in a fairly sterilized area.
But he was prepared for it. He was on a top secret mission deep in Geth space, something tells me they would plan for a suit breach.

Not to mention, as I said above, the planet is basically bathed in radiation, which could possibly have killed much of the bacteria that was on the planet.
 

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ok.... this is what an original quarian concept art was

LOOK IT UP im nearly sure this is the real thing. YOU TELL ME IF SHE IS HOT


http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs27/f/2009/239/e/c/ec0f0c57ffc26c7f77970f90ef9c2735.png
 

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Irridium said:
Yes, but it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible for Shepard to be steralized since nothing on the Normandy seems to be able to steralize you. Except maybe the airlock but thats just basic steralization, assuming it works the same way as the airlock from Mass Effect 1.

And I know that the weapons in the Mass Effect universe don't use bullets. But I do know that they fire super-heated slugs. So the argument of the heat killing immediate chances of infection are still valid. Not to mention the planet is basically bathed in radiation, which would kill a good amount of the bacteria there.
Offhand, do you know what the exact wording of why he's down for the week is?

I ask because I went for the missile support option both times and, so, he died. Anyway, the impression I got was that it was a deep wound because he said 'I'm not moving so well, but I can still pull a trigger' implying that it was a bad injury, at least deep into muscle. His combat seals had shut, but a description by Tali says that the seals do nothing for a bloodstream infection.

I'm wondering if the intent was that the wound itself was what laid him up for the week. I don't know how good medi-gel is supposed to be but the guy on (whatever planet Grunt was on) was still bleeding and limping after an application (yes, he was a wuss, but still hurting somewhat, so it's not a perfect flesh-mender)
 

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Donttazemehbro said:
ok.... this is what an original quarian concept art was

LOOK IT UP THIS IS NOT FAN ART. THIS IS THE REAL THING. YOU TELL ME IF SHE IS HOT


http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs27/f/2009/239/e/c/ec0f0c57ffc26c7f77970f90ef9c2735.png
Hmmm your link is to Deviantart. Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yeah I don't believe you.
 

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Wait, are you saying Tali is one of the romantic subplots in ME2?

YES

She was by far my favourite character in the first game. I was heavily dissapointed when I could only choose between the annoying blue or the crazy white. I'm looking forward to getting the sequel even more.
 

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T3h Merc said:
Donttazemehbro said:
ok.... this is what an original quarian concept art was

LOOK IT UP THIS IS NOT FAN ART. THIS IS THE REAL THING. YOU TELL ME IF SHE IS HOT


http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs27/f/2009/239/e/c/ec0f0c57ffc26c7f77970f90ef9c2735.png
Hmmm your link is to Deviantart. Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yeah I don't believe you.
yeah i just noticed that, but ive seen this on a website other than deviantart, yeah i looked at the link and said, oh shit. But trust me, i know someone on the dev team, he says that this is sort of close to what she looks like.
 

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Irridium said:
Not to mention, as I said above, the planet is basically bathed in radiation, which could possibly have killed much of the bacteria that was on the planet.
I'm not sure if this one applies because I could walk around that damn planet without my helmet on and I didn't have any trouble.
 

Agayek

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Irridium said:
But he was prepared for it. He was on a top secret mission deep in Geth space, something tells me they would plan for a suit breach.

Not to mention, as I said above, the planet is basically bathed in radiation, which could possibly have killed much of the bacteria that was on the planet.
Why couldn't bacteria have evolved to survive in that radiation?

I mean, on Earth, we can see some incredibly rapid (relatively) evolutionary steps taken, if a vital piece of the ecosystem is removed. There's no reason bacteria (that reproduce on a scale humans can barely comprehend) couldn't evolve to use that radiation as a food source or something.
 

Internet Kraken

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JeanLuc761 said:
As for the first one, it's well established that Quarians are terrified of the Geth and are angry because of what their punishment is for creating them. Understandable and certainly doesn't make her a racist.
It's not understandable. Everything that happened as a result of the Geth Rebellions is the Quarians fault. It's been over 260 years and they still believe that the Geth are nothing more than violent machines. Legion said that the Geth are open to peace, "but in situations when the Creators believed victory against Geth was possible, they have attacked 100% of the time". The reason the two races are constantly at each other throats is because Quarians, like Tali, can not let go of their grudge against the Geth. She is racist. If she wasn't racist, she wouldn't have planned out several ways to kill the Geth that has helped the team numerous times.

Secondly, I wouldn't exactly call a week or of antibiotic treatments and herbal supplements to be a simple "get out of jail free" card as you seem to think it is. That takes an immense amount of dedication and given that Mordin is one of the best scientists in the galaxy I can fully believe it's possible to temporarily overcome her weakened immune system.
This is an incredibly weak justification. Tali implies that the Quarians have next to no immune system. It would take plot-convenient miracle drugs to overcome this, which the game apparently produces. This should not be possible. But of course, since fans demanded it in droves it happened.

Al I'm seeing her is wasted potential. If Tali and Shepard couldn't express their love properly because of her weakened immune system, it'd make her rants about the Geth and her immune system a lot more understandable, as it would be much more personal. But as it stands every time I hear her complain all I see his a selfish *****. She wants to kill millions of Geth and risk the lives of millions of Quarians just to have a small chance at reclaiming the home world. All because of her weakened immune system, which she can temporairly overcome for important events. I'm really having trouble liking her character. I've tried talking to her but a lot of what she says has just made me hate her more.
 

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RedMenace said:
Internet Kraken said:
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I find Tali attractive because of her personality. And her tight body suit. But alot of it is her personality.
Didn't a lot of people hate Ashley because she was "racist"?

So shouldn't we hate Tali for the same reason? If anything Tali is a bigger racist than Ashley. I don't remember Ashley implying that she had already planned out several ways to kill Garrus just because he was a Turian. Same can't be said for Tali.
The difference is that throughout the entirety of ME1, Ash was snapping at Liara for no apparent reasons with comments bordering on "You are alien so you have only one right - to shut up". Tali's hatred of Legion, on the other hand is well justified.

Dont forget that Legion is a GETH. A race of machines that have been (until now) systematically attacking every world populated by organic life forms and showed no desire to communicate. If you talk to any other member of the crew, they are also more than apprehensive of Legion (Joker and James I know for sure, with James suggesting to vent 'it' into space).

P.S: Technically, Tali's accent is not "Russian", its more of a "Jewish". People tend to confuse those because majority of so called "Russian immigrants" are actually of Jewish background. (Hides behind the flame resistant wall)

once again.... Miranda has the body, tali has the personality. I chose Tali because she wasnt an option in the first game and secondly i always thought that a girl who trips over her words when she talks to you was attractive.