DoA Dev Says Jiggle Physics Are Part of Japanese Culture

[Gladys Knight]

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Well...to rephrase, women who are real have made a choice to dress up how they want but in this case the devs have CHOSEN to portray them like that. So you can't really use 'You are just persecuting women' excuse as they aren't sentient.

Men aren't ridiculously sexualised though are they.

Tekken may have pandas and velociraptors beating people up but at least they have a range of female builds rather than Tits and Ass and vacant stare-O-rama like DOA.

They could turn the entire female cast into blow up sex dolls and no one would notice.

Hell guys, you know that when someone say this is sexual exploitation they mean that they are exploiting you not the non existent characters right? I guess you are fine with that.

Uh oh! MEN did it!

What was the name of that video game character that picked out her own clothes? You know... the one that created herself?

Additionally, it's not OK to assume all women are similar but it is OK to assume that the entire Team Ninja team is male (because this wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't since women would also be contributing to the portrayal of women in such a way) since only men could possibly like something as repulsive as this game. Right?

Equality!

Women dolling themselves up before they go to a get together so they can seem attractive is sexual exploitation and, yes, people who aren't trying to manipulate people via claiming victimhood don't have a problem with that. There is a point where people just relax and enjoy male-female interaction.

Irony incoming: Team Ninja creates characters with giant breasts and the people who are up in arms over sexism and angry at sexist people are the ones.... judging the characters and game based entirely upon how they look, ignoring the entire male roster and the years of development and solid foundation the game has as well as the many innovations it brought to the table in the form of environmental interaction (doesn't matter if Samurai Shodown 64 did it if no one played it).

Fighting sexism is apparently drawing exclusive attention to women's assets, discounting everything else about the characters and entire game and basing your judgment strictly off the aforementioned assets.

Men could learn a thing or two about how to judge things they see. The goal, apparently, is if a guy sees a woman with a large bra size (like a lot of the women posting here conveniently have) they are to assume they are vacant with nothing else to offer because, hey, if someone has a large bra size there obviously CAN'T be anything else to them, right?

This is the lesson you guys are teaching, right?

 

[Calibanbutcher]

I think this all comes down to the fact that women can compartmentalise gaming and sex and men can't .

I mean I would think a man running around in a little speedo would be fucking stupid. I'm not joking I do because it would make the entire game ridiculous. It wouldn't turn me on it would make me laugh.

Why don't you go look at porn and we get games that we can play without having huge funbags bounce around the screen.


This is what DOA looks like to straight women.

And why do you get so worked up about this you have to argue for 14 pages?
I mean, some men, me not included, want games with giant jiggling jellybags everywhere, so maybe, just maybe, we ought to have some of those games.
Not every game should be like this, but it seems to me that Dead or Alive is not the series to go to for realistic proportioned women in gaming and I don't believe that anyone making the game wants to change that, nor that the core audience (read adolescent boys plagued by hormones) would want that.
Maybe, just maybe, you should just let this one developer fly.

+ WOW you want people to watch PORN instead of looking at videogame characters.

I don't want to touch that with a ten-foot pole.

 

[Tony2077]

reason common sense where have they gone

 

[PoweD]

I think this all comes down to the fact that women can compartmentalise gaming and sex and men can't .

I mean I would think a man running around in a little speedo would be fucking stupid. I'm not joking I do because it would make the entire game ridiculous. It wouldn't turn me on it would make me laugh.

Why don't you go look at porn and we get games that we can play without having huge funbags bounce around the screen.


This is what DOA looks like to straight women.

That actually looks fun, i'd play that.

The problem with your argument is that people actually want these games, they give their own hard earned money to play them.
Publishers and Devs see this, and decide to make more games like that.

That's it, the reason why "funbags" are included in game are because people want them.

What's the problem of mixing porn and games anyway?

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

So...basically, what he said is they're trying to make appealing females and jiggle physics is one way they think they can do it. Good on them. Jiggle physics is not on another level compared to, say, minimalist armour, or just better-looking tits even. It's a way to create the female characters every studio that caters to a 16-25 year old male demographic strives to.

But honestly, once they get a decent place in the story, doesn't matter to me what their breasts do. After all, certain breasts do in fact jiggle.

EDIT: Before this gets misconstrued, I'm not against studios making these kinds of characters. They can make whatever the hell they think will be popular. After all, Team Ninja is known for this. It's not like they're degrading the handful of decent female characters in franchises/games they have nothing to do with.

 

[SpectacularWebHead]

I'd really be interested to see the responses from people if every male character in these games wore hot pants and sported a bulge.

I honestly don't think I could handle seeing scantily clad guys AND girls at the same time. I would not finish that game.

Eh, to be honest, is anyone actually surprised that there are japanese people unrepentantly objectifying women as sex objects?

 

[axlryder]

all this over bouncy breast and skimpy outfits in a over the top video game you girls really need to rethink your priorities

You are the ones who so absolutely need this stuff in your games to the point where you argue about it for 14 pages so yeah...

i lurk and post at random so don't judge me like that
it funny when i get attacked by people like this. where is my popcorn when i need it

beside all that its a bloody video game try thinking about the real world problems that dwarf stuff like this

Yes because thinking about this mean I can't possibly think about anything else EVER

Yes, you are banned from thinking. Now go contemplate the plight of starving African children, damn it!

 

[Callate]

I think this all comes down to the fact that women can compartmentalise gaming and sex and men can't .

...Wow. If you were trying to give every single male license write you and your opinion off, you couldn't do any better than that kind of massive generalization. And labeling it as "fact", no less- reason to doubt anything else you cite as "fact".

Seriously, I understand you feel passionately about this subject, as evidenced by the (ahem) fact that you've contributed thirty posts to the subject over 14 pages. And I understand- ohh, I understand- the desire to roar fury at the stupid monolithic beast that just doesn't get it; I'm not for one moment going to suggest this is anything unique to feminism, women, or anything much more exclusive than possession of a pre-frontal cortex.

But, please... If you harbor any desire to actually change minds, rather than simply vent spleen, you need to consider how that kind of statement is going to be taken by someone reading it.

 

[targren]

It's bound to have some sort of normalizing effect. Anything which presents a distorted idea of reality a truth is going to shift peoples perception of the world, ever so slightly. In the grand scale of things, is DoA going to do that? I'd say negligibly, (compare it to say, the trend of having 25 year olds play teenagers in every american TV show, now THATS gonna mess with your head) but at the same time it'll create a hostile environment for women gamers, which is a dick move.

Just like GTA "normalizes" gamers into violent nutjobs who go around shooting people in the face, right?

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

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The point of the post you quoted just wizzed over your head.

A fictional character is created by someone man or woman they don't make their own choices on what to wear. If a woman was a professional martial artist do you think she would wear something like Ivy?

I don't see many women in the olympics with bondage gear on do you?

A creator has made a conscious decision to make a women oversexualised. Therefore you cannot say that it is the same thing as saying a real life woman is a sex objects for choosing to wear those things.

BTW Women don't dress up for men we do it to make ourselves look nice. That is the though process of someone who says things like 'she was asking for it'

Again a woman can be any shape without being oversexualised. I mean I have F cups and I'm sitting here in a sleeveless top with cute strawberries on it an A team T shirt underneath and grey jogging pants, hardly sexy.

It's the need for some games devs to make sexy the main feature of women that we are annoyed by. The existence of things like Legend of Korra proves that there is another way for female characters to be portrayed, as people, rather than just eye candy.

I don't really expect you to answer what I just said though and cherry pick something in this post to lose your shit over. Lets face it.

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I apologise it was a generalization I will edit it to 'some.'

 

[spwatkins]

meanwhile in america...

I wish i was kidding...
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Sorry, Crytek is a German company.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Holy crap I just had a nerdgasm

 

[m19]

How is a male sex fantasy game degrading to women?

 

[Shia-Neko-Chan]

I hate threads like these. It usually just turns into a thread full of people trying to take some stupid moral high-ground based off of something completely harmless in a video game.

they can't just not play the game, they also have to look down on people who just enjoy the games they like.

 

[evilneko]

It's totally cultural y'all!


Totally.

 

[rbstewart7263]

It's totally cultural y'all!


Totally.

most fair and accurate representation ever! lmao

 

[mrdude2010]

But the jiggle physics are so unrealistic. It makes it more comical than attractive. Besides, if I was desperate enough to suffer through a mediocre action game to see boobs, I could just as easily head over to google images.