Doctor Who Series 6.2 'Day of the Moon' SPOILERS

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Karakasa

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I dont think amy and the doctor would have a child together.
The scanner in the Tardis couldn't decide weather Amy was pregnant or not so maybe the girls timeline dosen't yet exist.
Maybe Amy is part Timelord herself
Maybe it's something to do with the crack in the wall.
Maybe Amy's related to Jennie.
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TimeLord said:
TheEvilCheese said:
Plinglebob said:
Big, wild (but fun) guesses here, but I'm also calling Time Travel messes up Human DNA/feotuses and the Time Lords are actually evolved Humans with Amy's kid being either the 1st in a new generation or the first ever Time Lord.
I like the idea of it being the first ever, but I don't think Moffat is going to do that to the continuity.

As for the girl? Well it could be Jenny (Doctors clone/daughter) or his actual child (we know he has been a father before).


The bit that I really have no explenation for is the random person behind the door in the childrens home. It was just a bit too Life on mars for my brain.
Yes.... That cannot be explained by anything!
It felt like Amy was going to end up in an insane asylum or something... I'll be really interested to see where Moffat goes with that one...
 

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sethzard said:
I wonder if it was the Rani
Even though that would prove to be the coolest thing ever, it's unlikely, the girl used the Doctor's regen animation, you know, red flames, but I've never seen the Rani's before.
It's not Doctor specific. It's a generic Time Lord regeneration. RTD confirmed that when he had the Master regenerated.
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Cpt Corallis said:
To be fair, the sycorax were running away, and Harriet Jones shot them in the back. The Silence had manipulated Humanity throughout time and had no qualms about it whatsoever. The Doctor just manipulated their manipulation.

Also, Humanity needs to succeed to preserve the integrity of any timeline, the Silence don't.
TimeLord said:
Well that's just good for establishing a difference between 10 and 11. Remember the 8th Doctor fought a Time War that killed millions. And the 4th attempted retroactive genocide on the Daleks.
I just didn't think that the Doctor should have done that, it's too far out of his character even taking into account the previous examples. The main difference is that if the Daleks had sued for peace the Doctor would have stopped, in all previous examples of him doing that he's never pushed harder than he's had to, even with the immediate example I think of (10 and Lumic) he never wanted to do it. This time the Doctor didn't set the trap and explain what would happen if they carried on, he just did it.

That's it actually, having thought on it it's that:

1. He manipulated innocent humans into killing without their knowledge.
2. He didn't give the Silence a chance to surrender, he just killed them all. In every previous example he's at least given them a chance but in these two episodes he never offered a peaceful way out.

This wasn't even like it was a fixed point or that something needed to happen, he could have literally solved this however he'd wanted and the Doctor actively chose to slaughter tens of thousands. Even Davros got an out when he built the Reality Bomb.
But the Silence had been on earth for thousands of years and were everywhere. Maybe the Doctor just knew they wouldn't go.
 

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Generic Gamer said:
Cpt Corallis said:
To be fair, the sycorax were running away, and Harriet Jones shot them in the back. The Silence had manipulated Humanity throughout time and had no qualms about it whatsoever. The Doctor just manipulated their manipulation.

Also, Humanity needs to succeed to preserve the integrity of any timeline, the Silence don't.
TimeLord said:
Well that's just good for establishing a difference between 10 and 11. Remember the 8th Doctor fought a Time War that killed millions. And the 4th attempted retroactive genocide on the Daleks.
I just didn't think that the Doctor should have done that, it's too far out of his character even taking into account the previous examples. The main difference is that if the Daleks had sued for peace the Doctor would have stopped, in all previous examples of him doing that he's never pushed harder than he's had to, even with the immediate example I think of (10 and Lumic) he never wanted to do it. This time the Doctor didn't set the trap and explain what would happen if they carried on, he just did it.

That's it actually, having thought on it it's that:

1. He manipulated innocent humans into killing without their knowledge.
2. He didn't give the Silence a chance to surrender, he just killed them all. In every previous example he's at least given them a chance but in these two episodes he never offered a peaceful way out.

This wasn't even like it was a fixed point or that something needed to happen, he could have literally solved this however he'd wanted and the Doctor actively chose to slaughter tens of thousands. Even Davros got an out when he built the Reality Bomb.
Maybe the fact that these aliens were apparently responsible for blowing up the TARDIS affected his judgement in some way. He is rather protective of that big ol' blue box.
 

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TimeLord said:
But the Silence had been on earth for thousands of years and were everywhere. Maybe the Doctor just knew they wouldn't go.
It doesn't matter if he knows or not, he is the kind of person that always offers one chance. I just didn't feel that these actions were consistent with his character. The genocide I can mainly buy if he'd have just offered a way out, but can you really see the Doctor using people that way? Because I just can't, frankly the plan's details and execution were something the Master would do!
I'd assume the chance wasn't given because the risk of forgetting couldn't be taken. He had one shot of dealing with them and had to take it no matter the consequences. Your right that having a race wiped out isn't a usual choice for him to make but the nature of how the Silence worked really narrows his options.
 

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Generic Gamer said:
TimeLord said:
But the Silence had been on earth for thousands of years and were everywhere. Maybe the Doctor just knew they wouldn't go.
It doesn't matter if he knows or not, he is the kind of person that always offers one chance. I just didn't feel that these actions were consistent with his character. The genocide I can mainly buy if he'd have just offered a way out, but can you really see the Doctor using people that way? Because I just can't, frankly the plan's details and execution were something the Master would do!
As long as he doesn't make a habit of it. I'm fine with it.

Or maybe...... The Doctor is the Master in his future regenerations. No that's a stupid idea.
 

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That Guy Who Phails said:
TimeLord said:
That Guy Who Phails said:
sethzard said:
I wonder if it was the Rani
Even though that would prove to be the coolest thing ever, it's unlikely, the girl used the Doctor's regen animation, you know, red flames, but I've never seen the Rani's before.
It's not Doctor specific. It's a generic Time Lord regeneration. RTD confirmed that when he had the Master regenerated.
I'm pretty sure rainbows shoot out of the Master when he regens.

*Looks*


Yay, I was right.
There's speculation that that happened because he forced himself into a younger form. Usually regeneration produces a random form at the end. But the Master states "If the Doctor can be young and strong, then so can I". So a popular theory if that he forced his final form. Which is why it's believed he screams throughout his regeneration, as opposed to a small outburst of pain in the final seconds.
 

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Generic Gamer said:
TimeLord said:
But the Silence had been on earth for thousands of years and were everywhere. Maybe the Doctor just knew they wouldn't go.
It doesn't matter if he knows or not, he is the kind of person that always offers one chance. I just didn't feel that these actions were consistent with his character. The genocide I can mainly buy if he'd have just offered a way out, but can you really see the Doctor using people that way? Because I just can't, frankly the plan's details and execution were something the Master would do!

Besides, compared to the occasions where the Doctor has offered chances this one was not particularly urgent or volatile.
Its consitant wih 11 and like 10 said he's dead
 

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I reckon that the Doctor wasn't actually involved in the whole Amy becoming pregnant thing, but the fact shes being flying around in the TARDIS the whole time probably had an effect on her unborn child, assuming that the little girl is in fact her child.

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Chrono212 said:
Cpt Corallis said:
Chrono212 said:
[HEADING=2]Amy <3 The Doctor[/HEADING]
[HEADING=1]No! Amy <3 Stupidface![/HEADING]
[HEADING=2]Stupidface <3 The Doctor[/HEADING]
No, stop it! We're going to end up with Team Doctor vs Team Stupid Face!
 

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AwesomeFerret said:
I reckon that the Doctor wasn't actually involved in the whole Amy becoming pregnant thing, but the fact shes being flying around in the TARDIS the whole time probably had an effect on her unborn child, assuming that the little girl is in fact her child.

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Chrono212 said:
Cpt Corallis said:
Chrono212 said:
[HEADING=2]Amy <3 The Doctor[/HEADING]
[HEADING=1]No! Amy <3 Stupidface![/HEADING]
[HEADING=2]Stupidface <3 The Doctor[/HEADING]
No, stop it! We're going to end up with Team Doctor vs Team Stupid Face!
*steps on the side of Team Stupid Face*
 

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TimeLord said:
AwesomeFerret said:
I reckon that the Doctor wasn't actually involved in the whole Amy becoming pregnant thing, but the fact shes being flying around in the TARDIS the whole time probably had an effect on her unborn child, assuming that the little girl is in fact her child.

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Chrono212 said:
Cpt Corallis said:
Chrono212 said:
[HEADING=2]Amy <3 The Doctor[/HEADING]
[HEADING=1]No! Amy <3 Stupidface![/HEADING]
[HEADING=2]Stupidface <3 The Doctor[/HEADING]
No, stop it! We're going to end up with Team Doctor vs Team Stupid Face!
*steps on the side of Team Stupid Face*
*also steps on the side of Team Stupid Face*

Also whats with all the hate for these new episodes? I'm quite liking them :(
2nd also, whats with the girl?? It better not be the doctors =_=
 

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TimeLord said:
AwesomeFerret said:
I reckon that the Doctor wasn't actually involved in the whole Amy becoming pregnant thing, but the fact shes being flying around in the TARDIS the whole time probably had an effect on her unborn child, assuming that the little girl is in fact her child.

Also

Chrono212 said:
Cpt Corallis said:
Chrono212 said:
[HEADING=2]Amy <3 The Doctor[/HEADING]
[HEADING=1]No! Amy <3 Stupidface![/HEADING]
[HEADING=2]Stupidface <3 The Doctor[/HEADING]
No, stop it! We're going to end up with Team Doctor vs Team Stupid Face!
*steps on the side of Team Stupid Face*
If I had to choose one, I would be Team Stupid Face, simply because of values and principles etcetera. But I suppose I'd better go contact a T shirt producer, looks like we could have a fad here!
 

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I don't know if it is consistent with his character, he mourned for the loss of those 'vampire' things and if he felt justified in killing a race to save humanity he could have dispatched that Starwhale with no problem.
Importent difference though, the vampire things were outcasts and the last of their race (like him) and the Starwhale was entirely innocent. I do agree that the Doctor was a little too quick to kill this time around, but remember that the Silence were hostile (and the the Doctor knew the machine would be abondoned).
 

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Marcosn said:
TimeLord said:
AwesomeFerret said:
I reckon that the Doctor wasn't actually involved in the whole Amy becoming pregnant thing, but the fact shes being flying around in the TARDIS the whole time probably had an effect on her unborn child, assuming that the little girl is in fact her child.

Also

Chrono212 said:
Cpt Corallis said:
Chrono212 said:
[HEADING=2]Amy <3 The Doctor[/HEADING]
[HEADING=1]No! Amy <3 Stupidface![/HEADING]
[HEADING=2]Stupidface <3 The Doctor[/HEADING]
No, stop it! We're going to end up with Team Doctor vs Team Stupid Face!
*steps on the side of Team Stupid Face*
*also steps on the side of Team Stupid Face*

Also whats with all the hate for these new episodes? I'm quite liking them :(
2nd also, whats with the girl?? It better not be the doctors =_=
Indeed, new series is cool.
 

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meh that doesnt bother me- the doctor has always been ruthless- in fact one of things I love about Moffat is how he's given the Doctor his balls back.