Doctor Who Series 6.2 'Day of the Moon' SPOILERS
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Also Davros pointed out the fact that even if the Doctor never actually kills people/aliens and is technically against it himself, he goes around creating warriors, people who are willing to kill in his name, as witnessed by Rose turning into a gun toting Torchwood badass from another dimension. And Martha willing to destroy the planet, killing millions of people in the process to stop the Daleks. So creating an army of people to kill the Silence is perhaps not such a huge step after all.DaBozz said:Ah yes but the doctor doesn't mind resorting to killing if he has no other choiceGeneric Gamer said:I'll tell you what didn't sit right for me:Togs said:
I don't like guns! Killing is wrong and I deposed a prime minister for it! Genocide is bad and I locked away my own people, a version of myself and stand against it no matter what!
I just made the entire human race into murderers through hypnosis and forced them to commit genocide! Problem, Shadow proclamation? Trolololololol
EG: in the episode "End of time" the doctor grabs a gun because he finds out the timelords are returning, so if the foe is great enough he will resort to killing them.
I thought it was a bit average at best, using cheap storytelling tactics (pregnant Amy? Yawn) and far too many characters. I don't like River Song, I find her annoying, I don't like the addition of yet another time lord (so much for there being "none left"), playing Rory off the Doctor is just cuntish now that Rory and Amy are actually married, and this episode had too much going on, yet so little happening.
Also; STOP with the two-part episodes, you're just padding them out with crap to make them last longer. Some of the best episodes were single parters, and very few of the double parters are nearly as good. Having a week long gap halfway through an episode kinda destroys the inertia.
Also; STOP with the famous cameos. They're getting old, no matter how well they are done.
Not the best start
Also; STOP with the two-part episodes, you're just padding them out with crap to make them last longer. Some of the best episodes were single parters, and very few of the double parters are nearly as good. Having a week long gap halfway through an episode kinda destroys the inertia.
Also; STOP with the famous cameos. They're getting old, no matter how well they are done.
Not the best start
I'm sure what is going to be revealed that time spent with the Silence is time no one notices passing by. We'll have discovered that something along the lines of scenarios with the Silence takes months if not years to finish.
This episode was in my opinion a massive improvement over the last one.
Apart from the awesomeness of the "Time Head Kid", Mark Sheppard's character was just awesome in his final line with Nixon. "Yes he is".
Apart from the awesomeness of the "Time Head Kid", Mark Sheppard's character was just awesome in his final line with Nixon. "Yes he is".
Great episode. The silence scared the shit out of me for some reason, and some awesome new plot threads were started. I believe this will be a much better season than the last, and I'm growing to like Matt Smith. Positive all round!
This was my guess given Amy asking if it might have done something to the baby. I don't see any other reason why that would be in the script.Plinglebob said:
Had I not seen the "previously" bit I would have been convinced I'd missed loads of the episode, as basically the entire way through I was confused as to what was going on. As far as I can remember, at the end of last episode no-one was even aware of the silence (yes there was the photo but they'd have forgotten about it as soon they put the phone away) and at the beginning of this one everyone was aware, and could even remember to mark their body when they saw one.
This completely lost me, even in the flashbacks to what happened after amy shot the spacesuit girl they didnt explain any of this.
And then I got confused again when they could hear Amy after her microphone thing was taken out. (I may have still been trying to understand how they all knew so maybe there was an explanation for this that I missed)
How is this possible, why inject them into your hand if they don't need to be anywhere near you? Eh, I'll just chalk that one up to science fiction magic, but still...
Anyway I got thinking and as I do trust that Stephen Moffat knows what hes doing I'm going to guess that all the missing information was intentional to create the effect of the silence wiping the minds of the audience - as like I said I was sure I must have missed something.
I think its similar to what Christopher Nolan did in Memento by playing the film in small chunks backwards so the audience gets to feel like the main character does (he has no short term memory)
Another example could be the ending of Inception (erm... spoilers) where by not showing the top stop spinning Nolan created an inception of his own by planting the false idea that the entire film was a dream into the audiences minds.
So hopefully, that is whats happened here, and eventually I'll be able to re-watch the episode and it will make sense.
This completely lost me, even in the flashbacks to what happened after amy shot the spacesuit girl they didnt explain any of this.
And then I got confused again when they could hear Amy after her microphone thing was taken out. (I may have still been trying to understand how they all knew so maybe there was an explanation for this that I missed)
How is this possible, why inject them into your hand if they don't need to be anywhere near you? Eh, I'll just chalk that one up to science fiction magic, but still...
Anyway I got thinking and as I do trust that Stephen Moffat knows what hes doing I'm going to guess that all the missing information was intentional to create the effect of the silence wiping the minds of the audience - as like I said I was sure I must have missed something.
I think its similar to what Christopher Nolan did in Memento by playing the film in small chunks backwards so the audience gets to feel like the main character does (he has no short term memory)
Another example could be the ending of Inception (erm... spoilers) where by not showing the top stop spinning Nolan created an inception of his own by planting the false idea that the entire film was a dream into the audiences minds.
So hopefully, that is whats happened here, and eventually I'll be able to re-watch the episode and it will make sense.
It was a good episode. Lots of questions left unanswered. I am scared, if the Doctor does die at the end of the series. Will the little girl take his place in the show/series? I don't think it would be as good with a girl doctor.
What if the girl replaces the doctor in series 7? I don't think that would be a very good TV show then...
You know... Many many things came through my mind while watching... But
a) Doctor commited another genocide not seeming to care too much about it.
b) TIME LORDS ARE GONE... NO I DON'T CARE. THEY ARE GONE. THEY BROUGHT BACK THE MASTER BUT FUCK YOU WITH YOUR JENNY AND OTHERS. TIME LORDS ARE DEAAAAD GO TO HELL MOFFAT! /RAAAAGE
c) This season is going to be soooo retconned.
Apart from rage. That is all.
a) Doctor commited another genocide not seeming to care too much about it.
b) TIME LORDS ARE GONE... NO I DON'T CARE. THEY ARE GONE. THEY BROUGHT BACK THE MASTER BUT FUCK YOU WITH YOUR JENNY AND OTHERS. TIME LORDS ARE DEAAAAD GO TO HELL MOFFAT! /RAAAAGE
c) This season is going to be soooo retconned.
Apart from rage. That is all.
Can someone explain the last scene with the silence-businessmen-aliens please. When rory runs over to amy she calls him stupidface alls well lalala but when they leave the sight of the business aliens and rorys all like yay you meant me how do they remember because surely they wouldnt remember the convorsation =S
1. She was an orphan in the 1960s, despite having pictures of her with Amy Pond, a woman from 2011. Albeit a time-traveling woman from 2011.
2. She can regenerate like a Timelord.
3. She was dying, which is why the Silent built her that suit, and why she was forced to regenerate without it.
2. She can regenerate like a Timelord.
3. She was dying, which is why the Silent built her that suit, and why she was forced to regenerate without it.
1. They were using a TARDIS they built themselves.[footnote]See the season 5 episode "The Lodger" if you don't know what I'm talking about.[/footnote]
2. The last time we heard about "Silence", the TARDIS exploded, and almost/did destroy the universe.
3. They attempted to activate their TARDIS (which I strongly suspect they built as a bomb rather then a time machine) with a little girl with Timelord-like abilities.
4. When they found Amy, they used her instead. This implies that either Timelord DNA or timey-wimey energy collected through frequent time-travel can activate their TARDIS-bomb.[footnote]And it's sentences like THAT which make Dr. Who my favorite show on television.[/footnote]
2. The last time we heard about "Silence", the TARDIS exploded, and almost/did destroy the universe.
3. They attempted to activate their TARDIS (which I strongly suspect they built as a bomb rather then a time machine) with a little girl with Timelord-like abilities.
4. When they found Amy, they used her instead. This implies that either Timelord DNA or timey-wimey energy collected through frequent time-travel can activate their TARDIS-bomb.[footnote]And it's sentences like THAT which make Dr. Who my favorite show on television.[/footnote]
1. Why the Silent want to destroy the universe.
2. How does the little girl have Time-Lord like abilities, and is she Amy's daughter?
3. If so, how does she end up abandoned in the 1960s?
4. On a probably unrelated note, WHO THE FUCK IS RIVER SONG??
2. How does the little girl have Time-Lord like abilities, and is she Amy's daughter?
3. If so, how does she end up abandoned in the 1960s?
4. On a probably unrelated note, WHO THE FUCK IS RIVER SONG??
1. Since the Silent are kind of pathetic when you get right down to it, I don't think they came up with this plan on their own. They're just a slave race, being manipulated by a much greater force. Now, since no one in the universe could possibly benefit from it's destruction, I conclude that the force behind the Silent is from another universe.
2. Well, I think it's obvious that the girl has some Timelord DNA. Now, there IS a woman running around the universe like this already, but the last time we saw her she was in her 20s. I believe this discussion has already been had in the thread above me, but I suppose it's possible that Jenny could regenerate into a child. I mean, why not? Remember, Jenny wasn't actually in her 20s, she was less then a day old the last time the doctor saw her. Maybe after a decade of running around the universe, she gets killed and regenerates into a form that actually looks her age, and somewhere along the way she encounters the Doctor, before the Silent catch up to her. (Explaining the pictures of her with Amy)
3. Well, I think I just covered that.
4. A TimeLord. I don't know how, but it's constantly implied. The Doctor didn't stay with Rose because she would age, so it stand to reason that he'd only settle down with someone who would live as long as he does. No, scratch that. He only tolerates the immortal Jack Harkness BARELY. He wouldn't settle down with any immortal woman, it'd take a timelord.
2. Well, I think it's obvious that the girl has some Timelord DNA. Now, there IS a woman running around the universe like this already, but the last time we saw her she was in her 20s. I believe this discussion has already been had in the thread above me, but I suppose it's possible that Jenny could regenerate into a child. I mean, why not? Remember, Jenny wasn't actually in her 20s, she was less then a day old the last time the doctor saw her. Maybe after a decade of running around the universe, she gets killed and regenerates into a form that actually looks her age, and somewhere along the way she encounters the Doctor, before the Silent catch up to her. (Explaining the pictures of her with Amy)
3. Well, I think I just covered that.
4. A TimeLord. I don't know how, but it's constantly implied. The Doctor didn't stay with Rose because she would age, so it stand to reason that he'd only settle down with someone who would live as long as he does. No, scratch that. He only tolerates the immortal Jack Harkness BARELY. He wouldn't settle down with any immortal woman, it'd take a timelord.
I think the americans (no offense) stepped in and got rid of all of the British trade mark. When they were in the little girls house, it was like american Tv. I liked the other series better
River Song can't be a timelord because she could've regenerated in "the forest of the dead". I don't know.
an interesting point to make is that since the 1103 year old Doctor died, there's a seemingly untended TARDIS hidden somewhere which i would think the Doctor planed something.
maybe a vacant future TARDIS has something to do with the girl who is potentially Amy's daughter getting thrown into the late 1960s
maybe a vacant future TARDIS has something to do with the girl who is potentially Amy's daughter getting thrown into the late 1960s