EA Now Owns Star Wars Games. Get the Torches.

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Azaraxzealot said:
major_chaos said:
Azaraxzealot said:
Dead Space's homogenization.
*Sigh* I'm not really sure if I want to have this argument for the eleventy billionth time, but could someone finally explain to me what was so horrible about DS3?
Micro-transactions, cover-based shooting, forced co-op, gee I don't know...
Micro-transactions affected the game minimally at best and was only an issue because idiots like Jim Sterling blew it out of proportion, the cover-based shooting was only in very short and few sections of the game, and the co-op was not forced it was very well implemented addition to a game to increase its enjoyment and lifespan, so still not seeing a problem with Dead Space 3.
 

major_chaos

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Azaraxzealot said:
Micro-transactions
My Ps3 has a busted network port and I literally can not connect to the internet. I forgot the cash shop was even there, that's how insignificant it is. TF2 has an unnecessary, overpriced cash shop and everyone holds that up as some unbeatable high mark for gaming.

cover-based shooting,
The human enemies show up a grand total of what, seven times? several of these rare encounters are like to end with necros eating them before you even fire a shot, and when that doesn't happen, they fair about as well as you would expect against weapons tailor made for fighting the far more intimidating undead threat. As for the cover/ doge roll, they are both so unnecessary that I beat the game on the second hardest difficulty without even knowing how to preform either of them.

forced co-op,
Being locked out of a very small number of side missions is the only downside of SP, I hardly call that "forced". You don't have an AI partner, you don't miss out on anything meaningful, just side missions. And considering that the side missions were awful and easily the worst part of the game, I would hardly even call it a downside.

gee I don't know...
Did you actually play DS3, or does all your information come from watching ZP?
 

chozo_hybrid

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ResonanceSD said:
chozo_hybrid said:
ResonanceSD said:
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ResonanceSD said:
No, don't get the torches out. If the games are good, buy them. If not, Don't. Do not give this any more press than it deserves.
Sensible, it's the way I always approach EA. If their game has something I don't agree with, I don't buy it, the ones they leave alone/get right when it comes to not having DRM/anything bad then I buy it, sales like that if they ever tip the balance will tell them what works and what doesn't.

See everyone! I CAN BE SENSIBLE TOO.

Ok, so it's the first documented case, but it can happen.
I'll admit, we've been at odds in a discussion before, but I'm more then capable of agreeing with anyone when they make sense to me :D
Have we? huh. I don't remember.
It didn't dissolve into an argument, so you probably wouldn't, don't worry about it :D

I just wish people would approach EA the way we seem to, instead of getting all up in arms over them, then buying the games anyway because they lack restraint.
 

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chozo_hybrid said:
ResonanceSD said:
chozo_hybrid said:
ResonanceSD said:
chozo_hybrid said:
ResonanceSD said:
No, don't get the torches out. If the games are good, buy them. If not, Don't. Do not give this any more press than it deserves.
Sensible, it's the way I always approach EA. If their game has something I don't agree with, I don't buy it, the ones they leave alone/get right when it comes to not having DRM/anything bad then I buy it, sales like that if they ever tip the balance will tell them what works and what doesn't.

See everyone! I CAN BE SENSIBLE TOO.

Ok, so it's the first documented case, but it can happen.
I'll admit, we've been at odds in a discussion before, but I'm more then capable of agreeing with anyone when they make sense to me :D
Have we? huh. I don't remember.
It didn't dissolve into an argument, so you probably wouldn't, don't worry about it :D

I just wish people would approach EA the way we seem to, instead of getting all up in arms over them, then buying the games anyway because they lack restraint.
I bought sim city off the advice of one reviewer and against the advice of another. Then when i found out it was arse, I got a refund. you can do that in Australia.
 

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Tom_green_day said:
So just because EA bought SOME of the rights? That means all the games are going to be bad? They've drafted in Bioware and DICE. The people who made KOTOR and BF3. BF3. Yeah, that's Battlefield 3, not Battlefront 3. It'll look bad on their lineup having two BF3s, but yeah it'll happen. I think this is actually a good turnout. EA make great games, and I feel they get a worse press than they deserve.
I know right but be prepare for so much hate from people who ether;

A. have never played a truly bad game

B. think EA is the devil

or

C. actually like EA games but are too scared to say so for fear of being hated for liking something unpopular.
 

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major_chaos said:
Did you actually play DS3, or does all your information come from watching ZP?
I didn't play it, I watched other people play it. Unlike most people who hate EA, I actually walk the walk and don't give them any money.

The criticisms are so numerous, why should I give EA a single cent just to have the right to join in with the hate? If we all bought and used everything that was highly criticized in order for us to be allowed to criticize them then what's the point of criticism?
 

chozo_hybrid

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ResonanceSD said:
I bought sim city off the advice of one reviewer and against the advice of another. Then when i found out it was arse, I got a refund. you can do that in Australia.
We can do that in New Zealand as well, I believe the consumer guarantees act covers it, like it covers "services" as they like to put it for online only games.
 

major_chaos

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Azaraxzealot said:
The criticisms are so numerous,
You listed three, and me and another poster poked holes in them that you have no rebuttal to.
why should I give EA a single cent
Rentals, used games.
just to have the right to join in with the hate?
It has something to do with your current hate being based on nothing.
highly criticized
It has a 75 metacritc average. If I refused to buy games based solely on internet morons moaning about nothing I would own about four games. I seem to remember ever Portal 2 getting reveiwbombed by users for having microtransactions, does that make it a bad game? I prefer to make my own judgement about a game, not buy into whatever hype a game has, whether that hype is positive or negative.
 

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Azaraxzealot said:
The criticisms are so numerous, why should I give EA a single cent just to have the right to join in with the hate? If we all bought and used everything that was highly criticized in order for us to be allowed to criticize them then what's the point of criticism?
...What?

The "point of criticism" as far as games go is to inform consumers. You're not a great source of information if you haven't actually played the game. It's not that complicated.
 

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tehpiemaker said:
Phlakes said:
Azaraxzealot said:
The criticisms are so numerous, why should I give EA a single cent just to have the right to join in with the hate? If we all bought and used everything that was highly criticized in order for us to be allowed to criticize them then what's the point of criticism?
...What?

The "point of criticism" as far as games go is to inform consumers. You're not a great source of information if you haven't actually played the game. It's not that complicated.
How do you make a stance against a company? Refuse to purchase from it. That's is the only way you'll get a man in suit to listen. But how do you criticize without having first hand knowledge of the product? You simply can't. The only way to get a feels for the game is with a demo, but game companies know this. Which is why there are no game demos anymore. I played the RE6 demo and found out how much the game sucked, therefore I didn't purchase that game. Why would companies put time and money into something that could potentially cost them money in the long run? Personally, I refuse to purchase any more games from EA ever since I purchased ME3.
Far as I'm concerned, you're both right. You can give informed criticism on something by buying it, playing it, and pointing out it's flaws. At the same time, You can infer to general experience to say something is bad, or is going to be bad, until presented evidence to the contrary. I could jump to extremes for an example here, but I won't. Instead, I'll use EA as an example. Mass Effect 3's writing sucked, I can say from experience and by pointing out it's flaws. Battlefield 3 is a mess, I can say from experience/flaws. From those two experiences (making up dozens, if not over 100 hours of my life), I can put stock in the majority's view that other games, like Dead Space 3, are probably homogenized crap. And drawing from all this, I can infer that whatever EA produces next will probably be subpar.
 

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Tom_green_day said:
So just because EA bought SOME of the rights? That means all the games are going to be bad? They've drafted in Bioware and DICE. The people who made KOTOR and BF3. BF3. Yeah, that's Battlefield 3, not Battlefront 3. It'll look bad on their lineup having two BF3s, but yeah it'll happen. I think this is actually a good turnout. EA make great games, and I feel they get a worse press than they deserve.
I feel like I have to say that; developers employed by EA make good games, not EA. I'm cautiously optimistic though about all of this. Knowing EA they'll release some long awaited sequels, such as Republic Commando 2, Battlefront: 3 etc, which will go over well with most of the community. Then they'll keep making sequel after sequel, with continually shortening development times and suddenly everyone will just be sick to death of Star Wars Games. Ah, the circle of life goes on.
 

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They made a Star Wars dancing KINECT game right? You can't be any further at the bottom of the barrel than that. There is no where to go but up.
 

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StriderShinryu said:
An IP that has, probably more than others, generally had more good games than bad ones is now going to be under the control of a company that largely puts out pretty good games? Oh no!

Yeah, sorry, I fail to see what the problem is unless you're someone who has decided to hate EA.
It's less the quality of the games. Than how the company...acts. How it treats it's customers, and has a rep for being well...money grubbing bastards.
 

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Look on the bright side, they can't screw up any worse than Lucas Arts has for the past 6-8 years.
 

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They've confirmed DICE and Visceral will be working on the new Star Wars titles. Which is good, as those are their top of the line studios. As far as I understand by BioWare they mean ongoing content production for SWTOR.

Now if they give DICE and Visceral creative freedom, a good budget and timeframe (3+ years) I'm confident they can deliver something good. Yet considering the license is exclusive, I doubt EA will have the restraint to not just pump out GoW/CoD with light sabers bi-yearly. Real shame it's an exclusive license as Obsidian were pitching a Star Wars RPG.

On the bright side this has cost EA a lot of money. So much money even Kotick doesn't think it's worth it. And it will keep costing them money, as Disney is sure to take a bite out of any licensed game profits. They'll need huge success in the core market to be anywhere close to recouping this investment, and their rancid reputation will hardly help.
 

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I Stomp on Kittens said:
Hey, at least we won't have to wait any longer for Battlefront 3, right?

Or Battlefront 4, or Battlefront 5, or 6, or even 7....8,9,10, 11:Jedi-Ops, 12:Jedi-Ops 2.

May the old Gods and the new have mercy on us all...

And R'hllor for that matter too...
 

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Azaraxzealot said:
And after the Hindenburg-level desaster that was the Sim City launch I think (or should i say i hope) they will not try that again too soon.
Yeah... You see, that's part of the reason so many people hate EA. They seem to be incapable of learning from their mistakes. What you're suggesting is what any rational person would do. EA has proven time and again that they're not rational, or at least that they don't understand the industry. Every time they do something stupid or crappy, people always say they've learned their lesson, only to have them do it again the next chance they get.

OT:
I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, Star Wars games have been really crappy for about the past 5 years or more. Like it or not EA does tend to put out adequate games if nothing else, which is a step up for the franchise at this point.

On the other hand, it's EA, so you can bet all games will be bundled with all manner of crappy anti-consumer business practices.

So, yeah, nothing really to get worked up about over all. Failing franchise is being taken over by a company that will likely make decent games out of it that no one will want to play because of their business practices.