Easily offended people on sex

[ElephantGuts]

I agree that society should loosen up its morals and embrace the things that are natural to us. Why fight it? It's both natural and necessary, and its fun. There's nothing wrong with it except for the negative ideas we assign to it.

 

[ix_tab]

I have different parameters for getting offended about sex. If someone uses the word '*****' or 'slut' referring to women sexually, I get really fucking angry.

But normally, I'm the one who offends people. Like when I couldn't stop telling people what one of my visual hard limits was (hard limit is primarily a BDSM term, but it means a line never to be crossed). I won't tell you guys what it is, mostly because I enjoy not being banned.

I'm really very easy going about sex and sex discussions. As long as they don't end up vilifying women for having and enjoying sex.

 

[Archemetis]

Ok the book thing is weird and wrong, I mean I can understand it's someone's creative vision and they're allowed to think what they like, but a distopian world where five year old children are encouraged to touch eachother?

Ew.

And you wouldn't have wanted to do it when you were five, no child alive ever thinks about this kind of shit, unless they're brought up by the kind of parents that treat watching porno as a family activity.

To the actual topic however, sex jokes have become some-what of a staple of my everyday life, they're damn-near impossible to avoid for me, I don't always make them, I mean I make them, but the majority come from other sources.

After a while they get stale and repetative.
I mean let's face it, how many times CAN you stand to hear the whiney, emo, gay kid in college talk about the prissy girls tits? (Yes, I get it, they're nice I would know! I've seen and buried my face in them! Now stop talking about them! And beyond that, stop fucking touching them you're supposed to be fucking GAY!)

*ahem*

Anyway, sex jokes are pretty much harmless, I mean unless it's a particularly touchy subject, like say making fun of a persons erectile disfunction, not funny.

Talking about a complete dick-bag's freshly deserved STD (the non-life threatening kind of course) = FUCKING HILARIOUS!

It's really a case of knowing what is acceptable to who, I guess.

People can and will be offended by whatever the hell they like (or don't as it should be said) It's just the way things work.

 

[ix_tab]

As long as they don't end up vilifying women for having and enjoying sex.

It's not fair that chicks are sluts for having sex with upwards of ten guys a week, but dudes are awesome for it.
"Slut" is gender neutral.
For me.

Honestly, I don't care how much sex someone is having, as long as I don't have a romantic interest in them, and as long as they keep their "conquests" to themselves.

I know, I know. Most guys think telling the story of how they fucked sixty ladies in a week makes them awesome.
But it's not all that impressive when you factor in the amount of alcohol the aforementioned ladies had probably been drinking, and the low, low, very low standards everyone in "our" generation seems to have.

Also, one of my favourite things is the way that not having sex will get you branded a frigid ice queen, but having sex makes you are whore.

That's aces.

Oh hookup bragging, it's kind of gross and tacky.

 

[ViolentlyHappy91]

Sex is generally funny, just watch the first scene with Alan Rickman in it in Dogma and you'll understand.

 

[mrpenguinismyhomeboy]

Talking about sex and making jokes about sex is fine. When you want to do that. For me, there is nothing more annoying when a bunch of people run around talking about how big their dicks are or how they are "the dominant male" and whipping each other with belts. Especially when afterwards they have the nerve to call themselves heterosexual! Sex is OK, but like, there's so much more to life then that. And I don't think people should just have sex but not be a a lasting relationship. That just allows shallow idiots to further populate the gene pool. Sex should only be given to people who earn it. It shouldn't just be handed out. I think talking about sex is all fine and good, but only if you want to do that, and I'm really not that type of person. I also don't think that someones sex life should determine their worth as a person.

Sex isn't "taboo", just intimate. A lot of people really aren't comfortable with talking about sex and sexual things. I'm one of those people. It's something that should really only happen with someone you love, and some people think that it should stay that way. People shouldn't prevent other people from talking about it though. If you don't want to hear it, buy earplugs.

I think sex isn't something that should be thrown around publicly like you suggested that it should. I'm not saying you shouldn't talk about it though. If you want to that's fine. Just don't judge people by how sexually active they are, because that's an asshole thing to do.

I agree that society should loosen up its morals and embrace the things that are natural to us. Why fight it? It's both natural and necessary, and its fun. There's nothing wrong with it except for the negative ideas we assign to it.

Well there's nothing wrong with murder except for the negative ideas we assign to it...

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

It seems some people just aren't getting enough lovin'.

 

[smokeybearsb]

Not having sex isn't bad - it's just a different choice than what the majority picks.
Do I think kids should be taught about sex? Yes. I do. I took health class - it's completely inadequate.

And on the subject of Brave New World...I've read the book. I understand what you're trying to say, but the point of the book is that the society is still BAD. The things they're doing to these kids are BAD. Kind of went over your head there, didn't it?

I was going to start some kind of thread on BNW, as it's a great philosophical discussion, and boy I love those! The basic theme of that book was "Are these people truly happy?" And my answer is Yes.

I gotta disagree with you on that one. Not everyone was happy. Some people just weren't aware of anything. Even the author stated that while Orwell feared a world in which books were banned, he feared one in which no books had to be. Because no one read. No one thought. No one cared. A society in such a state of apathy is not a happy one. Those people weren't happy. They weren't anyone. And the only people who tried to change things failed. It's a DYSTOPIA and not a utopia for a reason. This isn't a society to be emulated, it's a society to be feared. But perhaps a topic for another thread?

I would start a thread on that, and believe me I wanted to, but I just couldn't collect my ideas enough to present it.

 

[Ushario]

A dystopian society is one in which the conditions of life are miserable, characterized by human misery, poverty, oppression, violence, disease, and/or pollution.

Brave New World is in fact a utopia. A perfect society. Its people are, excepting only certain rare misfits, happy, wealthy, safe and have eliminated diseases. Oppression is arguable in this case but it wasn't really part of the novel and I don't think pollution was either.

The point where the girl is upset because the boy will not 'play' with her is intended for shock value. Its purpose in the novel was to make you relate to one of the main characters more, I can't remember his name. He isn't from this utopian society and he fails to adjust to live in it.

It also points out just how quick we are to fear and hate that which we don't know or understand.

Sex is like many other things in that being taboo only gets it more attention.

 

[ix_tab]

Also, one of my favourite things is the way that not having sex will get you branded a frigid ice queen, but having sex makes you are whore.

That's aces.

Oh hookup bragging, it's kind of gross and tacky.

I think I would be best friends with a girl who turned down everyone who offered her sub-par sex at a bar.
I would follow her around and make amusing comments at the expense of the dudes' who just got their confidence shattered.

See, that?
That's way better than sex.
And I get to keep my coat on.

Time for ix-tab's knocking back guys stories!

Now, because I am fat, the dudes that come onto me are either creepily into that, or drunk enough to think that because I am fat, somehow that renders me grateful for their sleeze, and ripe for the pickens.

So I was in a club, after seeing a band, and a sterling example of the aforementioned drunk dudes came over to me, and had a conversation with my breasts. I tried to ignore it, but then he turned to my face briefly and said, 'can I pick you up?'

I started laughing and laughing, and then told him I was gay. Unfortunately the club was playing music so loudly I had to scream at the top of my lungs.

But I did, I bellowed out, 'I'm a dyke!'

He looked confused, and then turned to my friend who was standing right next to me, and had heard everything. Actually she was getting ready to intervene for me.

And then he said to her, 'Can I pick you up?'


Stay hopeful, drunk dude. Maybe a friendless straight chick somewhere will admire your blunt drunken wishfulness.

 

[PayNSprayBandit]

I don't know if I have the same view on this as other people do (in fact, I'm damn sure there's some people that are gonna disagree) but one thing that gets on my nerves is people who are very scrupulous and offended when jokes are made about sex or something. This might be more of a problem for me because I'm in high school and there are some people still maturing, but I think there's still people like this. At my school, I hang out with a group of people that is okay with joking around or talking about sex and matters relating to it, but there are some people who just abhor talking about it. I don't understand why sex is such a (for lack of a better word atm) taboo thing. People should be open about it. Parents hide it from their children and some are sheltered. It is natural and healthy.

I read a book called Brave New World (which I guess I can fit into this thread) which is an incredible read. The book is about a dystopia in which people are genetically engineered and how exactly they are made depends on their social caste. The children are encouraged to engage in "erotic play." Basically, when the children are five, they are encouraged to explore their and the opposite sex's bodies. The book described a whole group of them running around doing this. One girl came back crying, saying that this boy would not engage in it, and he was sent somewhere for mental conditioning. For one, I would have loved to do this when I was five. Second, it would have answered a lot of questions instead of the internet. Also, this to me is start. It seems a better way of conducting things then making people sensitive about the subject.

I think people should be more open about their emotions, as they are humans. For some reason Rome to me seems like that. And the late 1800s and the 1900s.

I guess I wanted to say how much sensitive/scrupulous people sometimes get on my nerves.
Oh yes, please do refine my opinion, as I find it hard to articulate everything.

Edit: Erotic play as in just seeing what the deal is and getting comfortable.
Although, in the society they live in, everyone has sex with people, not forming long-lasting relationships. That seems a bit much.

First off, scrupulous means "having moral integrity". I can't imagine you are really against that. I also think you missed the point of Brave New World; you pointed out that it depicts a dystopia, but go on to say you want to live there. It wasn't supposed to be the goal, it was like a warning; think 1984. Also, Rome was a terrible place to live. When you say late 1800s and the 1900s, (the Victorian Era) where do you mean?

Last, about teaching children about sex, there are some of us who see sex as something more than sport. Sex should be about more than physical pleasure. It can be so very much more, but not if you drag it out into the open and dissect it desensitizing people; making the whole affair bland and mechanical at most. And for God's sake what happened to having a little mystery? Should children be spoken to about the basics of behavior and philosophy once they're old enough? Yes, but please put away the slide show.

You know what else is natural and healthy?
Using the restroom.

Bathroom humor is the lowest form of humor, excluding puns (a form of humor so unfunny they are scientifically proven to cause cancer.*)


*in myself
Oh, and the whole idea in the second paragraph is awful.

One girl came back crying, saying that this boy would not engage in it, and he was sent somewhere for mental conditioning.

That is not fucking okay. If some random chick came up to me at any age and wanted to mess around, I would strangle her to death.

It may answer questions, it may be a good thing to encourage, but sending someone for "mental conditioning" because they don't want people handling them?
Yeah, that's just fucked up.

Meh. I don't see any problem with making jokes about it.

However, I do agree with this. But then, nothing is off-limits to make jokes about.

I'm not even going to pretend I read this whole thread, but I couldn't not tell you how awesome that was. You've quickly and concisely explained just how insane the OP was, following it up by affirming the freedom of comedy. I rarely read things I agree with wholeheartedly, most impressive.

 

[Ultrajoe]

Brave New World was a cautionary tale, because people aren't rolled off a production line exactly the same...

I'm sorry, you were saying? [http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6484/308601126l1sikx8.jpg]
Oh, and let's not get into the chicks who all look exactly the same.
And I know it's not just America - Sweden apparently suffers from this as well.

Your point? This is how you would like things to be?

If not, then don't use Brave New World as a guidebook to population regulation. Like I said, a cautionary tale, one we might do well to listen to for once.

 

[Dugarel]

Sex is a taboo and has been for, well, ever. The fact that people joke about is because it is a taboo and a sensetive topic. The process of joking about something is a release valve for sensetive topics and aids in the process of desensetization. There is nothing wrong with sex, as has been stated many times in the posts above mine, it is natural and necessary to the continuation to our species. To prohibit sex would be similar to prohibiting eating (both of which many religions try to do, Lust and Gluttony). These ideas are ludicrous as to prohibit the natural drives we all experience undermines our ability to survive. So joking about sex is normal and acceptable as a means of breaking away from the long standing cultural taboo that has been placed over it. Let's hope that in another generation or so sex will be just another one of those things that nobody really cares about because it's just so common. Besides, there are far more important things to worry about.

 

[ExaltedK9]

Sex is a taboo and has been for, well, ever. The fact that people joke about is because it is a taboo and a sensetive topic. The process of joking about something is a release valve for sensetive topics and aids in the process of desensetization. There is nothing wrong with sex, as has been stated many times in the posts above mine, it is natural and necessary to the continuation to our species. To prohibit sex would be similar to prohibiting eating (both of which many religions try to do, Lust and Gluttony). These ideas are ludicrous as to prohibit the natural drives we all experience undermines our ability to survive. So joking about sex is normal and acceptable as a means of breaking away from the long standing cultural taboo that has been placed over it. Let's hope that in another generation or so sex will be just another one of those things that nobody really cares about because it's just so common. Besides, there are far more important things to worry about.

If your gonna post something like this please specify wich religion...I'm tired of making this post...Religion, or at very least christianity, doesn't condemn sex, OR eating (don't be retarded) Sex is natural, and beautiful. The only thing that bothers me about fat people (or at least the really big ones), is the ones that complain and blame other people for their lack of self-control....read the shirt "no fat chicks" (bad joke)...sorry.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Sex is only taboo because of those people out there that use stories passed down from time as reason why you shouldn't. 'Cause you know goat herders back in the olden' times ain't got shit on modern day scientists.