Final Fantasy and why it is enjoyed.
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Why was FF (and 7 in paticular) so well-loved? Try to imagine it in context of the time it came out. The storyline, characterisation, hell, the entire setting itself was much stronger and better realised than in 99% of what was one the market at the time. I dunno about the rest of you, but it was the first game that showed me how a game is a viable story telling medium (granted, not the best of stories, but heck, I was like 10 at the time).
I think FFVII had the finest combat system known to man. Complex, unforgiving and murderous, unless you changed it to proper turn-based.
Oh, and FFX-2 had the second finest, as it combined the nice points of VII's combat with some more elegant special manueveres.
Oh, and FFX-2 had the second finest, as it combined the nice points of VII's combat with some more elegant special manueveres.
Eh... I just don't CARE about FF anymore. Yeah, I liked FF6 (and especially loved how it was ported to the GBA so poor people like me could buy a copy), but I never really enjoyed the others. Final Fantasy Tactics for the PSX is my second-favorite game of all time, but I'm not sure I can really consider it an FF game. A lot of the game was made by the Vagrant Story/Tactics Ogre team, and it shows.
Go ahead and like it or hate it, just don't act like I should care. I mean, shouldn't the series END at some point?!?
Right now my attitude towards FF is the same as my attitude towards the new Sonic games. There MAY someday be another good FF, but I'm not holding my breath. If Square couldn't make FF12 fun (a game that took a lot of inspiration from Tactics, Vagrant Story and FFT:A) I doubt any of their neo-industrial crap is going to wow me.
Oh, and Dune is just flat-out brilliant. It inspired a number of deep and complex movie and game storylines, including Xenogears and Star Wars, to name a few. Like LotR, it was an incredibly iconic and visionary work that continues to influence SF to this day. In fact, I'd bet that in ANY SF video game with any kind of story, there will be at least one Dune reference somewhere in there... Unless that game is busy ripping off Star Wars or Aliens.
Go ahead and like it or hate it, just don't act like I should care. I mean, shouldn't the series END at some point?!?
Right now my attitude towards FF is the same as my attitude towards the new Sonic games. There MAY someday be another good FF, but I'm not holding my breath. If Square couldn't make FF12 fun (a game that took a lot of inspiration from Tactics, Vagrant Story and FFT:A) I doubt any of their neo-industrial crap is going to wow me.
Oh, and Dune is just flat-out brilliant. It inspired a number of deep and complex movie and game storylines, including Xenogears and Star Wars, to name a few. Like LotR, it was an incredibly iconic and visionary work that continues to influence SF to this day. In fact, I'd bet that in ANY SF video game with any kind of story, there will be at least one Dune reference somewhere in there... Unless that game is busy ripping off Star Wars or Aliens.
I agree, though not that the most recent games have. I think that it has something to do with the fact that they were some of the first games to be really compelling or at least try to be. If you wanted an emotional, story experience with interesting characters that was one of the few places you could find it. But the more of them I play the more similar they get, I know a lot of people want to crucify X but I loved it and I liked that they at least tried something sort of new, and that the male lead or the lead isn't the one who will ultimately save the world or at least isn't destined to do so.
I... compeletly agree.curlycrouton said:
JRPGS arn't fun to me especialy FF, the combat seems stupid to me.
Player: "Oi! i'm gonna run over there hit you and run back agian wait a few minutes then run back over there and hit you agian!"
Monster: "Oh no! i better use some super mega move to hurt your whole party!"
Player: "Other party member cast cure and throw potions, i'm gonna run back over there and hit him agian!"
thats how it plays off in my head
It's one of those games where combat should not be taken super seriously. The emphasis is more on story and it appeals to people who are more into the D&D scene. Thats why many people probably don't like RPG's like that because they are not patient enough for the combat and take it with more than a grain of salt. I can certainly understand why in this age people may find TBC to be rather dated, but back in the ol'days the hardware limitations kept it from being much else.Zallest said:
I really never saw the problem in it, the comments saying "its stupid" and "silly" seem rather silly to me. It's more layed back than balls to walll.
Ahem, clearly you are taking that as a insult to your beloved JRPGs, i just simply do not enjoy them mostly because the story are rather dull IMO and the game play isn't all that great IMO. did i say In my opinion? Yes you are coming off as a ass by the way... I did not say all JRPGs are turn based.. I know better then that but the topic in general is final fantasty which is turn based and is what i was talking about. Their are few JRPG that are not turn based and i might enjoy them if i took the time out of my day to play them but i don't because i have low expectations for them to be good games and like to play my western rpgs over and over like some kind of foaming cave rat.Onmi said:
Seraph, i respect your opinion and you are right, sorry i used the term stupid but thats just how it played off in my head.-Seraph- said:
I've recently been starting to hate Square lately with regard to their other, non-FF works. I'd have to look up a list or something on Wiki, but I'm pretty sure I haven't enjoyed ANY Square game in a long time. So yes, I WOULD have a problem with Square releasing bad games as non-FF titles, it's just extra-annoying when a bad Square game gets released with the name "Final Fantasy," because you know that people will still flock to it.Onmi said:
And yeah, I didn't think FF12 was good, but it was a lot less offensively-bad than the titles that came before it. I'll send a short list. I didn't play it that much, but I observed my sister putting maybe 50+ hours into it before selling it out of frustration, so I'll go with what I saw and heard.
