Games you're tired of hearing praise for?
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Stay far, far, far, far away from Blizzard's corner in March Mayhem. Fanboyism rears its head in those threads more than anywhere else, for pretty much all games, including Starcraft.wammnebu said:
Homeworld is the best RTS ever anyway
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That's a very cynical view to take.THEJORRRG said:
This thread instantly turned into "name a game you hate, and therefore don't want to hear praised". Color me wholly unsurprised.
OT: Games that have been around forever that get a pass due to nostalgic/retro value. Sorry to say it, but while SMBC was a milestone, the fact is that modern games are more deep, complex, artistic, fun, and better in nearly every way, so SMBC should not always hover around the top three slots for "best game of all time" polls. The only way that it measures up is when people make painfully arrogant if-you're-criticizing-it-you're-obviously-missing-the-point excuses like "it's beautiful in its simplicity" or "it's still kinda fun, even thirty years later!" Others include Morrowind (I'm three days into it; so far, not having as much fun as with Oblivion, despite my honest efforts to like it), Final Fantasy VII, Metroid, Galaga, Space Invaders, etc. (I'm sure a few came to your mind, as well).
I'm not a graphical fetishist or a modern-is-best snob, but people that act like these games are above scrutiny/can't possibly be compared to contemporary masterpieces are basically telling me that a king's horse and carriage make for better everyday transportation than a fully-loaded Maserati... or, more aptly, the sort that would tell me that vinyls are better than my MP3 player; you may have a barely-discernible improvement in sound quality and the ability to pretend you know something the rest of the modern world doesn't, but I can carry thousands of songs with me anywhere, switch between songs with a flick of my thumb when I want to hear something in particular, set it to randomly choose songs whenever I'm not feeling overly choosy, adjust the EQ to accommodate a particular genre of music, I listen to my music without bothering anyone else in crystal-clear quality with my sound-dampening studio headphones, all on a very durable device slightly smaller than my debit card. You'll find innovation in all modern electronic devices because it makes them more accessible, efficient, reliable, and capable of accomplishing much, much more; video games have evolved in similar ways for the exact same reasons, and to pretend otherwise, whether it be done deliberately for "geek cred" or just of an innocent case of over-sentimentality, is disingenuous in my eyes. The games of today are better than the games of yesteryear, and the ones of the future will be better than current-gen games.
To clarify, I'm not talking about people that appreciate them as classics, because that would be stupid. I can certainly appreciate the allure of a classic muscle car, even if it is obsolete for all intents and purposes; however, a '69 Charger won't fulfill your basic needs as well as an '09 Camry (unless getting tickets is a basic essential of your street-raceless and car-chaseless life), and anyone that asserts that the heavy steel box with a gas-chugging 425hp motor and a spartan interior is overall better than a highly-engineered, aerodynamic, practical-yet-comfortable, equipped-for-everyday-life, gas-sipping sedan is either a professional driver that actually requires a high-performance vehicle, or douchebag trying to act like there's a reason for driving one around town for any reason other than simply wanting to impress people (because god forbid anyone know they're making an effort to be cool). The gamer parallel to the douchebag I just mentioned aren't people that say "oh, X was a great game in its time", but the people that say "X is the greatest game ever made" as though it were objective fact.
...sorry for the long post. Combining ephedra and coffee tends to make over-loquaciousness seem okay.
OT: Games that have been around forever that get a pass due to nostalgic/retro value. Sorry to say it, but while SMBC was a milestone, the fact is that modern games are more deep, complex, artistic, fun, and better in nearly every way, so SMBC should not always hover around the top three slots for "best game of all time" polls. The only way that it measures up is when people make painfully arrogant if-you're-criticizing-it-you're-obviously-missing-the-point excuses like "it's beautiful in its simplicity" or "it's still kinda fun, even thirty years later!" Others include Morrowind (I'm three days into it; so far, not having as much fun as with Oblivion, despite my honest efforts to like it), Final Fantasy VII, Metroid, Galaga, Space Invaders, etc. (I'm sure a few came to your mind, as well).
I'm not a graphical fetishist or a modern-is-best snob, but people that act like these games are above scrutiny/can't possibly be compared to contemporary masterpieces are basically telling me that a king's horse and carriage make for better everyday transportation than a fully-loaded Maserati... or, more aptly, the sort that would tell me that vinyls are better than my MP3 player; you may have a barely-discernible improvement in sound quality and the ability to pretend you know something the rest of the modern world doesn't, but I can carry thousands of songs with me anywhere, switch between songs with a flick of my thumb when I want to hear something in particular, set it to randomly choose songs whenever I'm not feeling overly choosy, adjust the EQ to accommodate a particular genre of music, I listen to my music without bothering anyone else in crystal-clear quality with my sound-dampening studio headphones, all on a very durable device slightly smaller than my debit card. You'll find innovation in all modern electronic devices because it makes them more accessible, efficient, reliable, and capable of accomplishing much, much more; video games have evolved in similar ways for the exact same reasons, and to pretend otherwise, whether it be done deliberately for "geek cred" or just of an innocent case of over-sentimentality, is disingenuous in my eyes. The games of today are better than the games of yesteryear, and the ones of the future will be better than current-gen games.
To clarify, I'm not talking about people that appreciate them as classics, because that would be stupid. I can certainly appreciate the allure of a classic muscle car, even if it is obsolete for all intents and purposes; however, a '69 Charger won't fulfill your basic needs as well as an '09 Camry (unless getting tickets is a basic essential of your street-raceless and car-chaseless life), and anyone that asserts that the heavy steel box with a gas-chugging 425hp motor and a spartan interior is overall better than a highly-engineered, aerodynamic, practical-yet-comfortable, equipped-for-everyday-life, gas-sipping sedan is either a professional driver that actually requires a high-performance vehicle, or douchebag trying to act like there's a reason for driving one around town for any reason other than simply wanting to impress people (because god forbid anyone know they're making an effort to be cool). The gamer parallel to the douchebag I just mentioned aren't people that say "oh, X was a great game in its time", but the people that say "X is the greatest game ever made" as though it were objective fact.
...sorry for the long post. Combining ephedra and coffee tends to make over-loquaciousness seem okay.
Assassins's Creed was humiliated by people for the bad AI, boring repetitive missions, and bland story, was it not? Was it ever a game that received such praise?Skullkid4187 said:
Hey, there are some games that just are overshadowed by the leviathans of the games industry (eg COD, halo(which i wish people would give it a rest and stop hating about it), gears, killzone etc) and hardly ever get a mention (from what you have heard personally).....
Yes, people can stick their hate of the game or its hype, so Fallout, in my opinion, can go suck a dick, you found it good, ok, i didn't, same with WoW.
One other thing, I prefered Cod World at war to MW and MW2, sure, the MP was unbalanced as shit, but i like a challenge for once
Thinking about it, i should make a thread about underrated games, hang on a sec.......
Yes, people can stick their hate of the game or its hype, so Fallout, in my opinion, can go suck a dick, you found it good, ok, i didn't, same with WoW.
One other thing, I prefered Cod World at war to MW and MW2, sure, the MP was unbalanced as shit, but i like a challenge for once
Thinking about it, i should make a thread about underrated games, hang on a sec.......
Yes, I heard very many good things about it. Didn't particularly annoy me though.JaymesFogarty said:
Oh, I thought it was good too.THEJORRRG said:
Just not the second coming of Jesus Christ like some people I've seen.
Agreed. I got it on virtual console for 10 bucks because I was interested in playing "The greatest game of all time!". Well, it was certainly worth my money but, really? Seeing as I had already finished twilight princess and loved it, I had high hopes but it just wasn't as good. Twilight princess had way better dungeons, a much more interesting overworld, and a much more affective intro for me. Oot is a very good game, especially for the time but there are better games out there.Get_A_Grip_ said:
Runescape!
I thought that game was dead long ago, but suddenly people never shut up about it again, Jesus...
Also, Farmville...
And a more serious note, Modern Warfare 2, you're either really quite stupidly good at it or absolutely awful, there's rarely a middle ground.
I thought that game was dead long ago, but suddenly people never shut up about it again, Jesus...
Also, Farmville...
And a more serious note, Modern Warfare 2, you're either really quite stupidly good at it or absolutely awful, there's rarely a middle ground.
Games with good marketing but shitty everything else will result in people going "OH GOODIE!", buying, and then returning the game disappointed.THEJORRRG said:
That doesn't qualify as popular. People aren't idiots who will play a game repeatedly just because they liked the trailer.
(as an aside, Chum is Fum)
