Any game where water hurts or insta-kills you (counting out vampires). Even in kiddie games.[Insert Name Here said:
Gaming Cliches That Must Die
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You forgot the GTA example where every fucking bridge leading off the fucking island is out at the same fucking time and the only way to fix it is do story missions. The best part is that if you try to go to another island by some other means than the bridge the cops are instantly after you.SilentStranger said:
Oh, another one: games that try to develop a sense of urgency and then let you take your sweet time. Either it's urgent or it isn't. Halo 2 and 3 do this a lot... they'll tell you to hurry, but it never even FEELS like you need to, even before you realize you're not timed. When Cortana has told you five times to disarm a bomb, it causes annoyance, not tension.
This is also something I complained about way back when, when I did my Oblivion review/rant. The NPCs try to make everything sound urgent, but you can take forever and you know it. This is also true to a lesser extent in Fallout 3. There's no excuse for it there, since those same developers made Morrowind, which is perhaps the best-paced open-world game I've played.
Really, a sandbox/open-world game should either have a slow pace, or actually back up the sense of urgency. I wouldn't have this complaint about Oblivion, for example, if Daedra actually started wandering the countryside and killing people.
This is also something I complained about way back when, when I did my Oblivion review/rant. The NPCs try to make everything sound urgent, but you can take forever and you know it. This is also true to a lesser extent in Fallout 3. There's no excuse for it there, since those same developers made Morrowind, which is perhaps the best-paced open-world game I've played.
Really, a sandbox/open-world game should either have a slow pace, or actually back up the sense of urgency. I wouldn't have this complaint about Oblivion, for example, if Daedra actually started wandering the countryside and killing people.
Bullettime
Blatent attempts to make up buy cheep plastic paripherials (I'm looking at you, Tony Hawk)
Sandbox games
Games that claim to have branching paths, but really only have one major choice that is done almost at the very end.
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Blatent attempts to make up buy cheep plastic paripherials (I'm looking at you, Tony Hawk)
Sandbox games
Games that claim to have branching paths, but really only have one major choice that is done almost at the very end.
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Nah, that title goes to whoever plays your CO in MW2 (He's also in Mass Effect as the Captain, as well as several other games which I am too lazy to list here). He has a good b-level movie carreer too.RetroVortex said:
Points in a game where you need to do a task that deviates from the main gameplay components are tolerable.
But when they make them extreamly hard so that the part of the game that you are stuck on isn't even like the rest of the game, then that's a problem.
I.e: Forced stealth, driving, or minigame sections in games where they don't belong.
But when they make them extreamly hard so that the part of the game that you are stuck on isn't even like the rest of the game, then that's a problem.
I.e: Forced stealth, driving, or minigame sections in games where they don't belong.
haha Is someone thinking of Assassin's Creed, perhaps?[Insert Name Here said:
OT: Some cliches still work with some games, while these same games could be vastly improved with the removal of a certain other cliche. I'll use a well-known classic as an example to illustrate my point. Zelda. Of course you've got to have the Master sword (holy grail-ish item), it's a staple of the series, and doesn't take away from the story or gameplay, in my opinion. (although it would be cool ot see more special weapons, such as the Biggoron's Sword, and Majora's Mask technically had no Master Sword, but anyways...) I believe that the cliche Zelda could do without is the cliche of the elemental temples (water, fire, spirit, whatever). Wouldn't it be great to have a temple devoted to, say, psycological battery. Link would have disturbing visions and experience mindfucks in general as he progresses through the temple. I have trouble describing this idea well though, so I hope everyone kinda gets what I mean. So yeah, some games need to drop some cliches, while some cliches can still benefit (or at least, not be detrimental to) a game.
I rather like this. Girls in games always have bodies like Barrels attached to Limp Noodles, and usually never appear until the very end, as the "Reward" for the Spikey Haired Mute Hero of the Power Armored Super Soldier. If the Girl can be replaced with a piece of Jewelry with boobs or some other item people would waste their lives for, then she really doesn't need to exist. -.-Octorok said:
Well there's ODST . . . of course I haven't got very far into it so I don't really know how the plot develops. But from what I've seen the marine you play as is just a normal marine.Mordaci said:
Yes, because any girl who doesn't hop in bed with any guy who does something noble is a prude... nevermind if she finds his personality or appearance repulsive, or she might be in or pursuing a relationship with someone else... and we all know that lesbians are either ugly or haven't met a hot enough guy.meatsplash said:
Give me a break.
Also, I think your sarcastic over-the-top idea would be hilarious if done in a game that doesn't take itself too seriously.
I think your post would be hilarious if done in a thread that doesn't take itself too seriously.ComradeJim270 said:
I don't know what a guy has to do to get laid anymore... Save the apartheid boycott of the lesbian nazi lettuce growers for the jesus of the nuclear whales or what? Used to just take a girl out for some decent food and bring them home for some romantic comedies to get some action.
That would be Keith David, and I'll have to agree with you on him having that title over Stephen Fry.The Gentleman said:
Another thing: Games that take away abilities you had in the last game for no ****ing reason other than to make you start from scratch again. Yeah, they need to do it somehow, but really? Come on, at least put in some kind of plausible explanation for it, or don't do it at all and just come up with some new abilities. This is one of the reasons why I really like the Mega Man Zero series on the GBA: In the first game, you start with none of the advanced abilities. You have to earn them. In the second game, you also start with none of them... Because Zero has been wandering around in the desert alone for about a year. He's broken and worn out, and so are his weapons. See that game developers, it makes sense! And in the third game, when you start, he still has all the abilities he regained in the second came, because there's no good reason for him not to have them.
Dumb/incompetent villians.
Ultra-powerfull endboss (when hes some kind of tie-wearing desk-worker.. how about making his trusted captain the best fighter of the two?)
Monsters that get arbritrarily stonger as the game goes (first townthey are lvl1, endtown they are lvl 60.. so what happen to the newbies heroes in Endtown that start their new adventure..? DOesnt make sense)
Ultra-powerfull endboss (when hes some kind of tie-wearing desk-worker.. how about making his trusted captain the best fighter of the two?)
Monsters that get arbritrarily stonger as the game goes (first townthey are lvl1, endtown they are lvl 60.. so what happen to the newbies heroes in Endtown that start their new adventure..? DOesnt make sense)
This is one of the biggest cliches that I've noticed in games, books, movies and the like. It is the concept of "The Ancient Evil".
Seriously, why the hell is "The Ancient Evil" always the maiin boss? Is there something wrong with "Nowadays Evil?" Did the University of Evil suddenly become a party school after Skeletor retired from the post of Dean?
I mean, it isn't just a fantasy trope. Mass Effect does this, as does Freelancer and even my beloved Wing Commander managed to work it in for the last game (Wing Commander: Arena does not count as an official WC game).
Seriously, why the hell is "The Ancient Evil" always the maiin boss? Is there something wrong with "Nowadays Evil?" Did the University of Evil suddenly become a party school after Skeletor retired from the post of Dean?
I mean, it isn't just a fantasy trope. Mass Effect does this, as does Freelancer and even my beloved Wing Commander managed to work it in for the last game (Wing Commander: Arena does not count as an official WC game).
I'd have to say, grenade spam from FPSs on veteren/hardcore/ledgendary/insane difficulty. U-G-H!!!