Kimarous said:
saintchristopher said:
If he's friends with your girlfriend then he's probably fucking around with you. Especially if it's making you obviously uncomfortable.
Also, I can't believe in 2010 we're still having "gay panic" threads.
And why is that? Do you believe that we are all so liberal in this day and age that having someone you definately aren't interested in coming on to you shouldn't bother us?
There is so much about this response that I don't understand. Firstly, the words he used were "gay panic", which is slightly different from "someone you definitely aren't interested in". If it was "somebody you definitely aren't interested in", then it would be no different than the advances of an unattractive or unpleasant girl, in which case, being "liberal in this day and age" isn't especially relevant. The difference is the sense of automatic
hostility a number of people have displayed, light-heartedly advocating violence or threatening behaviour against a guy who's just trying to enjoy his crush. That people make such jokes so easily speaks badly of the male sense of masculinity. Is it something so fragile, that it's easily understandable to feel threatened by the coincidental interests of another man?
And yeah, maybe Saintchristopher
does want to believe that we, as a culture, have gotten past the point where homophobia is the norm. Would it be so bad to hope that we've learned a single damn thing from every other "minority's" fight against discrimination, by this point? Is it still too much of an assumption to think that we might be able to find some actual lesson about discrimination as a concept, after all this time, rather than requiring every group who faces prejudice to overcome it on a case-by-case basis? Fault him for his naivety, but don't treat him like a fool for his surprise. It's easy to forget, after all, how much the zeitgeist stinks of hypocrisy.
Personally, I'm a little pleased that so many people have responded with "just tell him you're not interested, it's not that big a deal, man up", when compared to the relatively small number of "this is how you get him to fuck off and leave you alone forever" posts. However, when you're starting from the assumption that this just isn't an issue, then it's not strange to be a little disappointed by the fact that people will say such things at all.
I suppose that, ultimately, when you ask the question "Do you believe we're all that liberal?" The answer you get might just be "Well, that's what I'd hoped, anyway..."