Gays and Homophobia

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Ramin 123

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LockeDown said:
I'm all for gay/lesbian/other rights. They're people just like the rest of us, and deserve the same treatment the rest of us are entitled to. All the same, however, I'll admit that I still get a little uncomfortable seeing a same-sex couple expressing their affections (though I'll fight tooth and nail for their right to do it).

Maybe I'm weird.
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A Raging Emo

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I'm Bi over here. I've had sexual encounters with more women than men, and I prefer it with women, but I have enjoyed myself with some guys.

I'm all for Gay Rights, but I can also see where plenty of people are coming from: if you are Gay, don't parade it in public like you have to let everyone know. I don't care if you kiss some one goodbye or whatever, regardless of their gender, as long as you don't spend all your time making out near me, it's fine.
 
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UncertaintyPrinciple said:
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UncertaintyPrinciple said:
I apologise if I offended you, just reading the article it never mentioned a defect, I concede there is a difference in brain structure but all that shows is sexual attraction is hard wired and not a birth defect. However, I'm still sorry for offending you.
You didn't offend me. The is the internet. It'll take more than that to offend me here and you certainly don't even register as a blip on my radar. I don't want you to think i'm a reactionary arsehole, because i'm not. I'm just a regular arsehole.
I don't think you're any kind of arsehole, you deduction is understandable. I merely had a different opinion on what the article meant. You saw it shows defect where I see proof that which gender one is attracted to is caused by design, there is no defect in my view just that people who like men have one kind of brain and people who like women have a different kind. Niether is right or wrong, due to a lack of evidence for both, but both are debatable. I'm also very glad I cased you no offense, I enjoy discussions not arguments
To clarify, I was responding to your point "there is no previous or current research that says homosexuals have any different brain structure" I perhaps should have mentioned then that I don't support the idea that gay people are "defective". How could I?
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
I_am_a_Spoon said:
I'm all for equal rights, but the thought of fucking another guy makes me feel physically sick.
Who cares? You're not the one who's going to be doing the fucking. Also, what's with this "I'm all for X" bullshit? Do people put it there so as to emphasize that they really have no problem with X but if it relates to Y they suddenly do? It makes no sense. You can't say you're all for equal rights but then make a statement implying you want to deny someone their rights.
No. I fully support equal rights for ALL (including homosexuals), but at the same time don't personally feel comfortable about homosexuality.

So, I am all for "X", but cannot fully embrace "X" on a personal level. And there's nothing wrong with that.
 

AndyFromMonday

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I_am_a_Spoon said:
AndyFromMonday said:
I_am_a_Spoon said:
I'm all for equal rights, but the thought of fucking another guy makes me feel physically sick.
Who cares? You're not the one who's going to be doing the fucking. Also, what's with this "I'm all for X" bullshit? Do people put it there so as to emphasize that they really have no problem with X but if it relates to Y they suddenly do? It makes no sense. You can't say you're all for equal rights but then make a statement implying you want to deny someone their rights.
No. I fully support equal rights for ALL (including homosexuals), but at the same time don't personally feel comfortable about homosexuality.

So, I am all for "X", but cannot fully embrace "X" on a personal level. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Then I apologize. I assumed you did not want equal rights for homosexuals. Your comment implied that, or at least that's what I think it implied.
 
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Willwillwritehiswill said:
UncertaintyPrinciple said:
Willwillwritehiswill said:
UncertaintyPrinciple said:
I apologise if I offended you, just reading the article it never mentioned a defect, I concede there is a difference in brain structure but all that shows is sexual attraction is hard wired and not a birth defect. However, I'm still sorry for offending you.
You didn't offend me. The is the internet. It'll take more than that to offend me here and you certainly don't even register as a blip on my radar. I don't want you to think i'm a reactionary arsehole, because i'm not. I'm just a regular arsehole.
I don't think you're any kind of arsehole, you deduction is understandable. I merely had a different opinion on what the article meant. You saw it shows defect where I see proof that which gender one is attracted to is caused by design, there is no defect in my view just that people who like men have one kind of brain and people who like women have a different kind. Niether is right or wrong, due to a lack of evidence for both, but both are debatable. I'm also very glad I cased you no offense, I enjoy discussions not arguments
To clarify, I was responding to your point "there is no previous or current research that says homosexuals have any different brain structure" I perhaps should have mentioned then that I don't support the idea that gay people are "defective". How could I?
My apologise I have about 5-6 different conversations going on at once, I may have gotten a bit confused. Sorry
 

Spoonius

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AndyFromMonday said:
I_am_a_Spoon said:
AndyFromMonday said:
I_am_a_Spoon said:
I'm all for equal rights, but the thought of fucking another guy makes me feel physically sick.
Who cares? You're not the one who's going to be doing the fucking. Also, what's with this "I'm all for X" bullshit? Do people put it there so as to emphasize that they really have no problem with X but if it relates to Y they suddenly do? It makes no sense. You can't say you're all for equal rights but then make a statement implying you want to deny someone their rights.
No. I fully support equal rights for ALL (including homosexuals), but at the same time don't personally feel comfortable about homosexuality.

So, I am all for "X", but cannot fully embrace "X" on a personal level. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Then I apologize. I assumed you did not want equal rights for homosexuals. Your comment implied that, or at least that's what I think it implied.
My original comment may have been a little too... blunt.
 

NezumiiroKitsune

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I dislike peoples condition that it is kept behind closed doors, as though what they do is any more depraved than what heterosexual people. If what you're trying to convey is a desire for them to keep there sexual exploits private, I would have thought that applies to all sexual relations, gay or straight. I would not more like a stranger to tell me about their partners carnal adventures is they were heterosexual. Unless you are immediately bound closely with said person it's something acquaintances don't generally discuss.

However if you mean general displays of public affection, such as kissing, holding hands, all the other things people do in relationships, I don't understand what the problem is. Love is love, no matter who it's with. When I see a couple of any gender assortment being romantic I'm generally filled with a good feeling about life, rather than revulsion at their lustful exploits. Seriously, the behind closed doors stuff is an unnecessary proviso. If my gay friends want to discuss their relationship with me, confided in me something personal, I would be as open to discussion and giving advice as I would my straight friends.

I have no problem with anyone's sexual orientation if you hadn't worked it out from this.

Minor disclaimer: One thing about any public display of affection will make it annoying for me. If they're being excessively verbose and moronic when I'm forced to be near them, say on a bus, I'll tell them to develop some vocabulary and grammar before they consider furthering the discussion... well maybe not so politely. I might just tell them to shut up >.>
 

ShankHA32

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I'm mostly a horrible person on this issue. When I'm alone I defend most gay rights, though I fail to see why gays pine for acceptance from the church. My brother is bisexual, and I'm all for that, as long as I'm home.

Depending on the people I am with though I become homophobic or slightly intolerant. When I hang with my prep/jock friends I never bring up my brother and most of them are surprised to learn I have one. I'm an immature high school student. It might be a problem.
 

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UncertaintyPrinciple said:
I personally believe that being anything (black, white, chinese, Islamic, gay, straight, alien) should have no defects nor any benefits in life. If a gay guy applies for a job, as does an Indian man, and a woman, all should be judged on their merits alone. Diversity is the spice of life, but it should never be forced or come with any built in benefits.
 

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Felix said:
I'm pansexual! Woo! :D
I never really understood pansexuality. I know it is supposed to be you guys don't care about gender or identity, but I don't really see how that is different from bisexuality...

Care to Enlighten me?
 

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ShankHA32 said:
I'm mostly a horrible person on this issue. When I'm alone I defend most gay rights, though I fail to see why gays pine for acceptance from the church. My brother is bisexual, and I'm all for that, as long as I'm home.

Depending on the people I am with though I become homophobic or slightly intolerant. When I hang with my prep/jock friends I never bring up my brother and most of them are surprised to learn I have one. I'm an immature high school student. It might be a problem.
What church are they trying to get acceptance from?
 

Redalert9r9r

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Straight and totally pro Gay Rights. I don't understand what the big deal is, anyway, if we'd all just think every once in a while the world would become a much less controversial place.

I could rant for days, but, anybody who is worth their brain can figure it all out for themselves.

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