I slightly hate the Gorillaz now, after finding out that Damon Albarn is the voice for 2D, I try my best when I listen to Gorillaz that it's 2D singing and not Damon BUT ITS SO FUCKING HARD!
It's called dialect.IcyEvils said:Don't worry mate, you aren't alone with the Dizzee Rascal hate (I presume you're British/Irish..?). If I may add another point to your rant, the reason he annoys me so much is because he does not know English. I am not even sure he has an education. Fine, Eminem uses slang, but he also includes proper sentences and words, not garbage picked up in the back streets of London. Listening to Dizzee Rascal violently rape a language almost makes me cry,Geamo said:A personal dislike of mine: Dizzee Rascal.
No, it's not because I hate rap. I enjoy occasional rap, if it's well-intended or has a catchy tune.
No, i'm not a racist.
I have had the chance to be an editor of a poetry magazine, and I saw far too much lyric poetry. Poetry that complained about love lost, about wanting new love (one in a particulary disturbing format that seemed like a boyhood fantasy transcribed with rhyme - creepy), and views on religion that were parochial at best. I love music and poetry that tells a story. I believe that most music is taking its lyrics too literally and not even writing anything that's compelling or interesting. (Granted this is most; I'm not a music hating curmudgeon.) And my final point leads into a critique of musical poetry.Lyric poetry is usually a form of poetry with rhyming schemes that express personal and emotional feelings.
Yeah they're first album kind of really sucks.MiracleOfSound said:Snip
Just one clarification, country actually predates rock n roll a mite bit. Modern country however is pretty much glorified pop southern rock. But yeah, country's not really a subgenre of rock n roll.THEAFRONINJA said:I don't care how many people try to defend him because he's "just a kid", I think Justin Beiber is a complete tool.
Also, although this isn't about music strictly, so sorry if I shouldn't put it here, but I hate it when people say all rap is about "bitchez and drugz". BAD rap is about those things. There's a lot of good rap. And even if a lot of it is about hard life on 'the streets', so what if you can't relate to it? I can't relate to being a Jedi during an attempted Jedi genocide, but I love Star Wars. I can't relate to being a hard nut gangster, but I love Snatch and Pulp Fiction. I can't relate to being the coolest guy on Earth, but I love Samuel L. Jackson. I can't... well, you get the drift, I just don't think that "I can't relate to it" justifies a hatred of an entire genre. I'm not saying you HAVE to like it, just give a better reason?
Also:
Urrm... Rap is a sub-genre of Hip-Hop. Country is a sub-genre of Rock, and Pop is hard to define as a genre as it's only what's POPular at the time, i.e. a rock song could be pop, as could a rap song.mr_hi said:also all the stupid fucking sub genres, there are four kinds of music: rap, rock, country and pop
However, I completely agree with your last two points.
This actually brings me to my pet peeve at the moment, people judging a band or a musician by their fans. Believe me, I've stopped and seen myself doing this too from time to time.GamesB2 said:Yeah they're first album kind of really sucks.MiracleOfSound said:Snip
Black Parades a good one though. They're not as bad as people say, it's just their image among teenagers and the like.
I try and listen to 'good' rap and I enjoy some of it (Opposite of adults - Chiddy Bang for example) but most of the stuff that people say is better it still bores me or annoys me.Vrach said:Snip
I'm not trying to be a language snob. And I know about dialect, I f***ing hate my own (Northern Ireland). Its just the one thing about Dizzee Rascal that stands out most in my head- I mean, one of his top songs is 'Dance Wiv Me'. If he tried, maybe I wouldn't hate him so much.Woodsey said:It's called dialect.
If you were really the language snob you're trying to be then you'd appreciate that, although still not necessarily like it.
Even then he's hardly heavy on the slang; I can understand it and I live in a suburb of Norwich - hardly the back streets of London.
I actually heard someone say on a bus they're MCRs biggest fan and I just thought... Is that really something to be proud of?AgentNein said:This actually brings me to my pet peeve at the moment, people judging a band or a musician by their fans. Believe me, I've stopped and seen myself doing this too from time to time.GamesB2 said:Yeah they're first album kind of really sucks.MiracleOfSound said:Snip
Black Parades a good one though. They're not as bad as people say, it's just their image among teenagers and the like.
MCR has actually put out some real cool rocknroll. Not even just on Black Parade. But god, some people will never ever give them the benefit of the doubt because of their fanbase.
Yeah Jay-Z is ok with me, but i haven't heard rap from anyone else that sounds that good to me.JRShield said:Well, I don't like most rap music, though Jay-Z is something special on his black album. But all the other rappers, no, don't like it.
You didn't know that?Quiet Stranger said:I slightly hate the Gorillaz now, after finding out that Damon Albarn is the voice for 2D, I try my best when I listen to Gorillaz that it's 2D singing and not Damon BUT ITS SO FUCKING HARD!
Yeah, it's pretty cool. You can really trace things back to a mix between blues and hillbilly music (which is what country was actually called awhile ago), and those things created rocknroll and rockabilly. Rock and roll kept more of the blues influence, while rockabilly had more of the 'hilbilly' influence. Interesting stuff.THEAFRONINJA said:Heh, really? Learn something new every dayAgentNein said:Just one clarification, country actually predates rock n roll a mite bit. Modern country however is pretty much glorified pop southern rock. But yeah, country's not really a subgenre of rock n roll.THEAFRONINJA said:I don't care how many people try to defend him because he's "just a kid", I think Justin Beiber is a complete tool.
Also, although this isn't about music strictly, so sorry if I shouldn't put it here, but I hate it when people say all rap is about "bitchez and drugz". BAD rap is about those things. There's a lot of good rap. And even if a lot of it is about hard life on 'the streets', so what if you can't relate to it? I can't relate to being a Jedi during an attempted Jedi genocide, but I love Star Wars. I can't relate to being a hard nut gangster, but I love Snatch and Pulp Fiction. I can't relate to being the coolest guy on Earth, but I love Samuel L. Jackson. I can't... well, you get the drift, I just don't think that "I can't relate to it" justifies a hatred of an entire genre. I'm not saying you HAVE to like it, just give a better reason?
Also:
Urrm... Rap is a sub-genre of Hip-Hop. Country is a sub-genre of Rock, and Pop is hard to define as a genre as it's only what's POPular at the time, i.e. a rock song could be pop, as could a rap song.mr_hi said:also all the stupid fucking sub genres, there are four kinds of music: rap, rock, country and pop
However, I completely agree with your last two points.
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