Give me a stereotype of any genre of music and I will post a song that breaks it.

[zen5887]

I respect Bach for being a talented musican at the time, but that just flat out bored me.

...if that bored you, and didn't move you, but you enjoy such silly things as rap, then you are perfect example of why I think we need to genocide most of todays youth.

Fuck me dude, that's a little extreme.

I kinda agree with Monkey (I don't find Prelude boring but I can totally see how someone would think that). I mean, the whole song is straight 16th arpeggios, there is no rhythmic variation, nor are there any real challenging notes. Pretty much the reason I don't really like Classical music..

You also have some pretty narrow view on music.. I'd advise you branch out a bit. You'll live longer =)

EDIT: Regarding your thing about Rap.

Rapping is a vocal technique, Hip Hop is a culture, Hip Hop music is one part of that culture. However, most people nowadays just call Hip Hop music, Rap or simply Hip Hop, which is often used for a blanket term for a whole bunch of genres.

Someone says

"Yeah, man.. I'm getting into Hip Hop"
"Oh yeah?"
"Yeah.. I really dig some of the alt stuff, but not really into the Ganstra rap stuff.."

I prefer calling it Hip Hop (no real reason) but there isn't a difference.

 

[Funkiest Monkey]

But you can't say the film industry is terrible! I'll admit, they do churn out some complete bollocks. But have you seen Inception or Toy Story 3 lately? They were brilliant! We've also got Salt, Expendables, Scott Pilgrim and A-Team coming up. It's a good time for cinema.

Let's see. Toy Story 3 I'll give you half points for. Inception... you get full points for that one. Salt? Expendables? A-Team? Haha, no. No points for those.

Scott Pilgrim could have been alright if someone other than Cera had been picked for the roll. While he does fit the comic character look wise, from the trailers and his past performances, I don't see him pulling off the spazzy over the top nature the character had in the comics.

I also heard that some spots were rewritten to more fit Cera. No. You find an actor to fit the character. You don't change the character to fit the actor.

Cera can be good in some roles, and I trust Edgar Wright to do something good with it. It is hotly anticipated in my eyes.

And come on! The A-Team? Not only am I a fan of the original show, but this movie just looks like a badass and fun action romp.

No doubt Expendables will be a great action flick too. Who doesn't want all the action greats in one film?

But, er, you're forgiven for Salt. It could turn it well, then again it could not.

 

[Sacman]

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"You are saying falsehoods; that rap is a genre. This is simply wrong, what you say doesn't change that fact."

Got it ass backwards there, pal.

"Even worse, you have brought not a single shred of evidence to support your side of the argument. That too adds to my claim that you're being a troll."

Evidence? Common sense doesn't require evidence. Also, it'd be the only thing in your claim of me being a troll, seeing as how I already refuted your silly attempt. Again, asshole=/=troll. Sorry.

But, alright. I'll play your game. I can destroy your entire argument and not have to give anything else with such a simple answer: The music industry, the artists, etc, for the most part consider it a genre. It is listed as a genre, and has several sub-genres such as 'gangsta' rap and the like. The critics, the industry professionals, and the artists are more in a place to judge this than yourself.

Rap as a whole is a genre. Deal with it. Rap rock is a cross genre. DEAL WITH IT.

"As for saying this you don't really mean, I don't see why that's a requisite of being a troll."

Because it is part of the original definition. One long forgotten by ones such as you who have corrupted the word.

"and wilfully antagonised everyone else."

Again. You assume. Also, learn how to fucking spell you dumb twit. Willfully, antagonized. IT'S SPELLED WITH A FUCKING Z.

You make me want to RAGE... Against The Machine.

Spoiler

 

[Funkiest Monkey]

I respect Bach for being a talented musican at the time, but that just flat out bored me.

...if that bored you, and didn't move you, but you enjoy such silly things as rap, then you are perfect example of why I think we need to genocide most of todays youth.

Fuck me dude, that's a little extreme.

I kinda agree with Monkey (I don't find Prelude boring but I can totally see how someone would think that). I mean, the whole song is straight 16th arpeggios, there is no rhythmic variation, nor are there any real challenging notes. Pretty much the reason I don't really like Classical music..

You also have some pretty narrow view on music.. I'd advise you branch out a bit. You'll live longer =)

He's already lived for over a 100 years, why would he need to live any longer?

 

[Trotgar]

Norwegian/Swedish Black/Death Metal: I listened to Windir, Cemetary, and Burzum lately and all it was to me was incoherent growing and screaming, fast kick drum work, and texturally-retarded distorted guitars. In other words, complete shit.

The only way to find something that would be "good" is for it to be of an entirely different genre altogether.

Spoiler: Opeth - The Drapery Falls

Opeth is a Swedish Progressive Death Metal band. I admit that I don't usually like normal Death Metal in itself, but Opeth have great songs and they also have clean vocal parts (in that song there is growling only after five minutes or so). Their drummers can play various different styles (there is quite a little of double bass drumming in this song) and they never have too distorted guitars in my opinion (at least on their newer albums).

The quality may make the guitars sound more distorted than they really are, of course.

But, now I'll give a stereotype (that I disagree with): Progressive Rock and Metal is full of clumsy time signature changes.

 

[Eden the Fox]

Honestly guys? You're still entertaining him? Really? Just report him and return to the actual topic of the thread. Seriously. =/

But to keep -this- post on topic... Can someone disprove the stereotype that a cover of a song can never be better than the original? =o ... Not really a genre thing... Uh... Rock song... I guess... Or something. >.>;;

 

[Nouw]

Anyone say anything bad about Power Metal, I will prove you wrong.

Anyway, British Rap (with the accent and all) is just aggressive and angry singing. British Grime they call it?

 

[Kinguendo]

No, it's a load of repetitive beats, samples, and synthesizers. Remember your stereotypes.

And here's some techno jazz fusion. It has a saxophone!

Wait, I dont think fusions count... Because that means you havent proven Techno isnt, you have proven Techno/Jazz isnt and no one asked that.

Also, classical music is boring.

EDIT: OH MAN! Its such a well made "stereotype" that it has already been said in these exact words! And I dont think anyone has proven it isnt... MY WORD! They should just put it on a giant stone and fire it into space like a second moon.

 

[Sacman]

Honestly guys? You're still entertaining him? Really? Just report him and return to the actual topic of the thread. Seriously. =/

But to keep -this- post on topic... Can someone disprove the stereotype that a cover of a song can never be better than the original? =o

Madworld...

Spoiler: Fears for Tears

Spoiler: Gary Jules

 

[Cowabungaa]

country music makes me wanna suicide

What about some Seasick Steve?
Though I'm not sure whether that counts as country or blues. Then again, in the end, does it matter?

Perhaps this song from the Cowboy Bebop soundtrack is more like country:
Still suicidal?

le snip

You're an aggressive little bugger aren't ya? Oh sure I made a spelling mistake, I'm so sorry that English isn't my first language. It might help create a friendlier atmosphere, and prevent you from getting banned, to not act like an asshole and just, you know, converse like a civilised person. Liking classical music and old films doesn't make you one.

Anyway, the music industry you say. Then do show it, I'm no insider and I have never heard such a thing. Then again I barely pay attention to it. From what I've heard, "rap" is being used as a synonym for "hip hop" as pretty much all popular hip hop incorporate rapped lyrics.

This is strange because not all hip hop uses rap, plenty of songs from the Samurai Champloo soundtrack are an example of that, and not every song with rapped lyrics is hip hop. That as much is clear and because of that I disagree with the statement that rap = genre.

I mean, wikipedia (yes yes not the best source available) defines a musical genre as this:

A music genre is a categorical and typological construct that identifies musical sounds as belonging to a particular category and type of music that can be distinguished from other types of music.

And I very much doubt that especially the latter is the case with rapped lyrics. Afterall, the act of rapping (because it's a verb, not a noun) can be incorporated with pretty much every kind of musical style.

But if the musical experts say so, lets hear their explanation of it.

 

[Funkiest Monkey]

Cera can be good in some roles, and I trust Edgar Wright to do something good with it. It is hotly anticipated in my eyes.

And come on! The A-Team? Not only am I a fan of the original show, but this movie just looks like a badass and fun action romp.

No doubt Expendables will be a great action flick too. Who doesn't want all the action greats in one film?

But, er, you're forgiven for Salt. It could turn it well, then again it could not.

Yes, Cera can be good in some roles. But not this one. Scott Pilgrim is not the type of character Cera is meant to play. Again. If it is true that the character was rewritten to fit Cera, the film should bomb. Though, I will admit, Edgar Wright was the perfect choice to helm the flick.

A-Team and the Expendables both fall under the same problem. Cliche action movies. I've had enough of this.

Yeah, I'm fine with this. The Expendables is the EPITOME of cliche action movies, from the masters of action movies.

And the A-Team looks FUN. Probably not ground breaking but it should be a worth a watch, I'm a fan of the original show also.

 

[Sacman]

Indie pop rock. It's typically known as upbeat music with soft but fun vocals and a bouncy beat.

The Kills this one of my favorite songs.

 

[Kinguendo]

Also, classical music is boring.

Also, you're a fucking twit who shouldn't be allowed to reproduce and continue your horrid line of failures.

Hehe... whats this? A classical music troll? This is knew, I want one! Can I take this one? Does it belong to anyone?

 

[Kinguendo]

Also, classical music is boring.

Also, you're a fucking twit who shouldn't be allowed to reproduce and continue your horrid line of failures.

Hehe... whats this? A classical music troll? This is knew, I want one! Can I take this one? Does it belong to anyone?

Oh, look. Another uneducated porch monkey who doesn't understand what a real troll is.

Enjoy the sterilization I'm going to have done to you while you sleep.

Yeah, no. You arent a real troll... Real trolls A) dont like classical music and B) Are mostly less obvious.

By the way, "porch monkey" is a racial slur... enjoy your banning! ^_^

 

[Eden the Fox]

Honestly guys? You're still entertaining him? Really? Just report him and return to the actual topic of the thread. Seriously. =/

But to keep -this- post on topic... Can someone disprove the stereotype that a cover of a song can never be better than the original? =o

Madworld...

Spoiler: Fears for Tears

Spoiler: Gary Jules

I had a feeling this would come up. Heh. Both versions a good in different ways... But I'll have to concede that Jules' version is both more well-known and better for the song content.