Good game, lousy sequel

[Aarn13]

Supposedly The game would have alot more light/dark decisions before it got rushed out... and idk if Darth Nihilius got his story plotline cut but,... you have to admit its a sweet mask

Edit: oops i was trying to quote Ace of Spades....
so ya KoToR > KoToR 2

 

[BigbadaBEEF]

Would anyone agree with me when i say Resistance? i only completed the second one because of a lust for knowledge, pondered the last clip for an hour, the gave the game back to my mate then moved back to CoD

 

[BigbadaBEEF]

Anything after Crash and Spyro started being made by a different company (I think it was after number 3 in both.) Also, Does goldeneye: rouge agent count, or are people still denying its very existence?

agreed, Naughty Dog did CTR aswell before handing it over and effectively killing my childhood, the 3 spyro games (and 4 crash games) sit proudly in my top games ever (i think we may have nostalgia to thank for that)

sorry for the double post, im kinda new to the whole concept of forums

 

[Alvandera]

I'd say FFX and FFX-2... FFX-2 made me lose faith in the FF series ><

FF10-2..Was a horrible, horrible, horribe game.. :/...
But FF12 was the shit. I loved it so much.

 

[Woe Is You]

What the smarter guy said. Also, that they are basically the game is the reason I list it as a lousy sequel, since the gameply is near identical to Gears 1, with lousier story, gameplay and characters. SO it would count as a "lousy sequel" then.

I've been scratching my head over this and I honestly can't think of anything that's superior in the first Gears of War aside from the network code hiccups that I'm sure weren't there in the first game.

 

[Mstrswrd]

Devil May Cry 2 was a decent action game, but when compared to Devil May Cry, it's horrible.

 

[BigbadaBEEF]

Would anyone agree with me when i say Resistance? i only completed the second one because of a lust for knowledge, pondered the last clip for an hour, the gave the game back to my mate then moved back to CoD

No. Resistance 1 was good, but Resistance 2 was a vast improvement on the game from every aspect.

It felt like it was missing something, they had tried to copy CoD with some aspects of the controls and done it really badly, the game felt far too military in comparison with the first, number 1 was more about the mystery of the Chimera than anything else, i disliked the vibrance of the colours and found myself playing it for the story alone, it lacks the replay value of the first and the new co op is ... well ... shite, id borrow it again probably but never make the purchase. Dont get me wrong it is a good game, but not nearly as fun for me as the first

 

[Flap Jack452]

James Bond Goldeneye, and every other James Bond games since then.

 

[SniperWolf427]

What the smarter guy said. Also, that they are basically the game is the reason I list it as a lousy sequel, since the gameply is near identical to Gears 1, with lousier story, gameplay and characters. SO it would count as a "lousy sequel" then.

I've been scratching my head over this and I honestly can't think of anything that's superior in the first Gears of War aside from the network code hiccups that I'm sure weren't there in the first game.

Hmm, I can't really understand why the first is simply better but it is. Gears 2 improved on every problem that plagued the original, yet it fails to be nearly as fun. I do like the story better in Gears 2 and the story mode in general is just better, but somehow Gears 2 barely feels worth the 60 bucks i spent on it.

I have already gone back to playing Gears 1 multiplayer, which i prefer over 2 completely.

 

[Danglybits]

Well, I don't count FFX-2 as a sequel, they are a so dissimilar that they really can't be called sequels but, and I'm surprised that it went so long with out mentioning (not just from me) but MGS2 Sons of Liberty. Repeating the first story was bad enough but replacing the main character was a serious offense. And I like Raiden. But when the Big Shell part started I said, "Who the Eff are you!?" And MGS4, I have never been so disappointed by a game in my life. Perhaps it is my fault for the expectations but still.

After that the Prince of Persia series. I just couldn't stand them after the first one, and I'm not just talking about the rage that was added to the Prince's character. Chrono Cross (Yeah, they've all been mentioned before I know), the the game was fun but the story made no sense to me.

But for me the absolute worst (after X-2 -- which never happened as far as I'm concerned) is Spyro: Ripto's Rage. Story aside the game drove me batty. "Hi Spyro, welcome to the land of obnoxious talking animals and menial side-quests!"

Oh god there are so many I can't stop, even though you all wish I would, remember the FFVII sequels? Like Dirge of Cerberus. Okay I haven't played that one but I've never heard anything good about it. And I'm not sure if it counts since it's a movie but Advent Children. I'm sorry it was nothing more than graphics wank to me, it took the story and negated it. Aeris's death doesn't mean anything if you make her tangible or revive her. Neither does Rufus's. And the story just didn't make sense or add up and that part where the old player party characters keep showing up and trying to shoot Cloud into the air or jump up really high? WTF? I've never seen anything so pointless in my life.

Okay I'm done I swear.

 

[KSI Hellboy]

Mercs 2

 

[HardRockSamurai]

Probably the Painkiller sequel. The original game was massive fun to play, and the expansion, Painkiller: Battle Out of Hell, was just as brilliant.

Then along came the sequel Painkiller: Overdose. While I was expecting a fine-tuned, next-generation replica of the original game, what I got instead was.....THE ORIGINAL GAME. Other than a new jackass character and plot, no improvements, or changes for that matter, had been made. It still retained the fast-paced gameplay I have come to love, but I really was expecting more from it.

 

[Prexus]

Probably got to agree with everyone and say KotOR and KotOR2 was probably a big disappointment. Sad, too. KotOR2 was a much better game, just suffered so horribly from the crunch at the end.

Also, FFX to FFX-2. Not because FFX-2 was a bad game, but solely because of FFX-2, Square-Enix will never, ever take a risk with the Final Fantasy series again, and that is just too bad. FFX-2 was a great game. I'm pretty sick and tired of hearing "It sucked because the lead characters were all happy and not-emo and had boobs."

Also, FFX-2 wins for having a nip-slip in the game, which made it into the american release.

 

[Incompl te]

Rollercoaster Tycoon 1 [good] and Rollercoaster Tycoon 2 [bad].

The third one owns though.

 

[Nazulu]

SSB Brawl, every Mario Kart after 64, Twilight Princess, Perfect Dark 2, Halo 2 & 3, Lineage 2 Chronicle 5, Mario Sunshine, Red Alert 3, Tiberium Wars and hopefully not Starcraft 2.

 

[Darth Marsden]

Probably the Painkiller 'sequel'.

Fixed. Overdose was, literally, a fan-made mod given a commercial release. And it shows. Oh god, does it show.

Sub-par sequels for me? Let's go through the list:

Command & Conquer: Renegade - No explanation required.

Contract J.A.C.K. - Not a bad game, but compared to NoLF2... Yeah

Deus Ex: Invisible War - Again, I actually quite liked this one, but compared to the original...

Dreamfall: The Longest Journey - WTF did you do to April? Why does the lead have an annoying Americanised English accent? What was the point of the combat system when it never gets used? What's with the guy you only play three times and don't give a rats ass about? Why did you try to kill April off? (And she's not dead, she can breath underwater) And don't even get me started on the plot that makes no sense.

Prince of Persia 7 - Yeah, it's the seventh one. And it's such a letdown [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.82425.1123818] after the SoT trilogy...

Simon the Sorcerer: Chaos Happens - If you can cope with the awful controls, 3D wasn't all that bad. This one... it's unfunny, illogical and a waste of everybody's time. Learn from my mistake. Never play this.

Soldier of Fortune: Payback - Utterly abysmal from start to finish and a complete betrayal of everything the original games were about.

Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness - Only a completionist would own this (hi there). It's full of bugs, an incredibly poor 'levelling' system, lacklustre plot, awkward controls and a pointless second character. There's a reason Core were fired over this.

There's more, but they're the games I either have or have played at some point.

As a note, I refuse to condone KotOR2 while this mod [http://www.team-gizka.org/index.html] offers it redemption. The game itself wasn't at all bad, but I will concede that it did feel rushed. And, if you forget the fact that it's nothing to do with Bond, then Goldeneye: Rogue Agent isn't completely awful. Just 'meh'. And in that respect, it's much like most other Bond FPS', really.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

Warrior Within was a pretty bad step in the wrong direction for The Prince of Persia series, but it made more sense when the trilogy came to its conclusion, partly because Ubisoft was openly admitting "Yes, the prince was a moron in the last game, this is him making up for it."

Then ofcoarse you have the new one, which is a turd in comparison. But I woudln't concider it a sequel.

Also, FFX to FFX-2. Not because FFX-2 was a bad game, but solely because of FFX-2, Square-Enix will never, ever take a risk with the Final Fantasy series again, and that is just too bad. FFX-2 was a great game. I'm pretty sick and tired of hearing "It sucked because the lead characters were all happy and not-emo and had boobs."

Also, FFX-2 wins for having a nip-slip in the game, which made it into the american release.

You can't seriously compare FFX-2 in any shape or form to the origanal. Are you truelly telling me you thought it was as good as the origanal, because it just seemed god aweful to me.

 

[The Rockerfly]

Disgaea: hour of darkness was amazing. The dark humour, the brilliant special effects and a decent story.
While with disgaea 2 the main charecter was such a dick it was impossible to like him and you never had the same sense of powerful attacks like you did in the first.
Hope the third ones better.
There are loads of games which need to be on the list
but i think this is one of the worst offenders.