Alright, there's feminist (looking for equality with men, etc.) and there's retarded moron:
"I have to say that now that I have subjected myself to the horror that is Firefly, I really am beyond worried about how much men hate us, given that this was written by a man who calls himself a feminist."
"The first scene opens in a war with Mal and Zoe. Zoe runs around calling Mal ?sir? and taking orders off him. I roll my eyes. Not a good start."
Well maybe that's because he's ranked higher than her? If it was the other way round there wouldn't be a problem.
"The next scene is set in the present. Mal, Jayne, and Zoe are floating about in space. They come into some danger. Mal gets all panicky.
Zoe says, ?This ship's been derelict for months. Why would they ??
Mal replies, (in Chinese) ?Shut up.?"
What's this?! Someone is panicked and they become visibly edgy towards others? THAT'S SO FUCKING ABNORMAL.
"Mal replies, ?Sometimes you just wanna duct tape her mouth and dump her in the hold for a month.? Yes, that is an exact quote, ?Sometimes you just wanna DUCT TAPE HER MOUTH and DUMP HER IN THE HOLD FOR A MONTH.? Kaylee responds by grinning and giving Mal a kiss on the cheek and saying, ?I love my Captain.? "
So? Kaylee is a woman I assume, and she totally agrees with the man. The only way you would reach these conclusions is by actively searching for things that could be interpreted to be anti-female.
Talk about having sand in your vagina.
[small]Hehe, see what I did there?[/small]
EDIT:
Just saw this in the comments:
Writer-in'er: I found your assumptions about and judgements of Joss Whedon's wife particularly offensive
"Beyond a shadow of a doubt, Joss uses his own wife in this way. Expects her to clean up his emotional messes. Expects her to be there, eternally supportive, eternally subservient and grateful to him in all his manly glory. I hope the money is worth it, Mrs. Whedon. But somehow I doubt that it is. No amount of money can buy back wasted emotional resources."
You are judging a woman you have never met, and accusing her of being with her husband for the money. What a shame - I thought feminist women stuck together and supported each other's choices!
Authour: Fair enough, but I'm keeping my tone. I'm angry about violence against women and I have every right to be.
I feel awful for Joss Whedon's wife. From what I've read about him and the interviews I've watched, I'm fairly certain that he rapes his wife and abuses her in various other ways. I honestly can't think of anything worse than living with a man like Joss who thinks of women like the way he portrays in his tv shows. How awful. The comment about the money was meant to be about how I personally could see no benefit from being with a man like Joss OTHER than money. Joss uses and abuses her. Probably rapes her and thinks of women as whores etc, etc. Obviously, Ms Whedon has her own reasons for staying. Fear, patriarchal concepts of love, etc. But I would argue that she gives everything and gets nothing. Money is the only concrete thing that she could possibly gain. But as I said money is worth nothing compared with self-integrity, self-esteem, love (sister/lesbian/gynaffectionate love) etc. So she still loses out. Poor woman.
I support women but not their choices. Choice for women is not the same as self-determiniation. I support women to become self-centering and self-determinining. I do not support their patriarchally constricted 'choices'.
Wow, just wow.
"I have to say that now that I have subjected myself to the horror that is Firefly, I really am beyond worried about how much men hate us, given that this was written by a man who calls himself a feminist."
"The first scene opens in a war with Mal and Zoe. Zoe runs around calling Mal ?sir? and taking orders off him. I roll my eyes. Not a good start."
Well maybe that's because he's ranked higher than her? If it was the other way round there wouldn't be a problem.
"The next scene is set in the present. Mal, Jayne, and Zoe are floating about in space. They come into some danger. Mal gets all panicky.
Zoe says, ?This ship's been derelict for months. Why would they ??
Mal replies, (in Chinese) ?Shut up.?"
What's this?! Someone is panicked and they become visibly edgy towards others? THAT'S SO FUCKING ABNORMAL.
"Mal replies, ?Sometimes you just wanna duct tape her mouth and dump her in the hold for a month.? Yes, that is an exact quote, ?Sometimes you just wanna DUCT TAPE HER MOUTH and DUMP HER IN THE HOLD FOR A MONTH.? Kaylee responds by grinning and giving Mal a kiss on the cheek and saying, ?I love my Captain.? "
So? Kaylee is a woman I assume, and she totally agrees with the man. The only way you would reach these conclusions is by actively searching for things that could be interpreted to be anti-female.
Talk about having sand in your vagina.
[small]Hehe, see what I did there?[/small]
EDIT:
Just saw this in the comments:
Writer-in'er: I found your assumptions about and judgements of Joss Whedon's wife particularly offensive
"Beyond a shadow of a doubt, Joss uses his own wife in this way. Expects her to clean up his emotional messes. Expects her to be there, eternally supportive, eternally subservient and grateful to him in all his manly glory. I hope the money is worth it, Mrs. Whedon. But somehow I doubt that it is. No amount of money can buy back wasted emotional resources."
You are judging a woman you have never met, and accusing her of being with her husband for the money. What a shame - I thought feminist women stuck together and supported each other's choices!
Authour: Fair enough, but I'm keeping my tone. I'm angry about violence against women and I have every right to be.
I feel awful for Joss Whedon's wife. From what I've read about him and the interviews I've watched, I'm fairly certain that he rapes his wife and abuses her in various other ways. I honestly can't think of anything worse than living with a man like Joss who thinks of women like the way he portrays in his tv shows. How awful. The comment about the money was meant to be about how I personally could see no benefit from being with a man like Joss OTHER than money. Joss uses and abuses her. Probably rapes her and thinks of women as whores etc, etc. Obviously, Ms Whedon has her own reasons for staying. Fear, patriarchal concepts of love, etc. But I would argue that she gives everything and gets nothing. Money is the only concrete thing that she could possibly gain. But as I said money is worth nothing compared with self-integrity, self-esteem, love (sister/lesbian/gynaffectionate love) etc. So she still loses out. Poor woman.
I support women but not their choices. Choice for women is not the same as self-determiniation. I support women to become self-centering and self-determinining. I do not support their patriarchally constricted 'choices'.
Wow, just wow.
