Halo Killer Sentenced to Life

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bigorexia

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I apologize if this has been mentioned but I do hate these kinds of stories for one big reason.
You say the judge mentioned being disturbed by video games on a youths mental health, well I ask you this:

What about the millions of other people who play violent video games on regular basis and don't snap? Its the same kinda thing people do when for instance a mother has a "premonition" that her child is in danger and it turns out he/she is. That "premonition" only stands out because it was true that one time. She just forgets about every other time she thought something along those lines and it didn't come true.
 

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NO. Stand back everyone, 'cos I'm gonna fuckin rage.
He blamed it on videogames and they think that just diminished his responsibility? Bull-fucking-shit. It doesn't matter if videogames influenced him or not, either way he is still too mentally unstable and therefore too dangerous to take a role in a normal society. Halo itself can't take responsibility for his murder, he and he alone is responsible for this and he's a pathetic little shit for trying to shift it onto games.
 

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bigorexia said:
I apologize if this has been mentioned but I do hate these kinds of stories for one big reason.
You say the judge mentioned being disturbed by video games on a youths mental health, well I ask you this:

What about the millions of other people who play violent video games on regular basis and don't snap? Its the same kinda thing people do when for instance a mother has a "premonition" that her child is in danger and it turns out he/she is. That "premonition" only stands out because it was true that one time. She just forgets about every other time she thought something along those lines and it didn't come true.
Somebody get this man a diploma, because I can't recall the last time I saw such a good point.
Welcome to the Escapist, I'll make sure you get a nice room ;D
 

Gerazzi

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Cause and coincidence are two different things.

He probably needs severe mental treatment, but that doesn't mean that he's willing to plea insanity for it.

Also this:
Aries_Split said:
Did the kid drink orange juice?

Yes.

And he killed his parents?

Yes.

HOLY FUCK ORANGE JUICE CAUSED HIM TO KILL HIS PARENTS!!!!

Grow up.


Come on people.
 

SomeUnregPunk

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black lincon said:
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It had to do with addiction. From What I can gather the kid was either plain out psycho or was addicted to halo, and if it was the latter his parents taking it away would trigger an event like this. that's not saying it was the games fault, if he had been addicted to a movie or a TV show and his parents took it away the same thing could have happened.
Bollocks to that, I say. People don't draw a gun on someone unless they're already fucked up. His 'addiction' had nothing to do with this.
yes yes it did. if fact it had everything to do with it. the addiction acted as a trigger. he believed he needed halo, and when it was taken away he was furious and not thinking straight. he took the gun and killed his mother over the game, and then shot his father. the addiction was a trigger, and your right you, he was a little messed up to begin with, this kid was obviously out of reality and more messed up than just becoming addicted. he most likely had anger issues and lacked tools to deal with the anger.

However, the addiction was the trigger. if he hadn't been addicted to something he would have never had anything to be taken away and never had anything to kill over. what he was addicted to is irrelevant and if your argument is that videogames don't cause violence, then your using the wrong argument, this is about addiction, and as several staff members here can attest to, you can get addicted to games.

once again, he had other problems, but the trigger was his addiction, what caused the murder was his addiction.
Addiction can really screw people up. If any of you kids out here got parents who smoke, take their cigarettes in front of them and crush it. Better yet, take all their cigs and destroy them before their eyes and then you will see what addiction does to people first hand.

Addiction creates nervousness when the drug is witheld, whether it be drugs, coffee, games, sex, adrenaline jumkies, etc. Someone who is highly nervous, will tend to anything to calm themselves down and that usually means to acquire the fix.

This dolt used his dad's key to unlock the gun box, walked to his parents and told them to close their eyes because he got a present for them. That takes some calculated thought. I have known addicts to break out locked rooms, jump out a second story windows to get to their supply.

Instead of just grabbing the game from the locked box, he grabbed both the game and the gun and shot his parents. His sister found them after coming home, I wonder if he was playing the game. If he was, then maybe it is addiction. I just think he is psychotic. I'm glad the judge didn't rule he was insane because that would mean he would get a lighter sentence in favor of mental hospital.
 

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Serves him right. He killed someone, case closed. Also, when I read the title, I thought this ws a joke thread about the Killzone series, which was an attempted Halo Killer.
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
scnj said:
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I find it odd that his father requested leniency despite being shot by him. Just doesn't make sense to me.
Its still his son.

Well have fun playing in jail. Poor kid, i hope they gave him the psychological treatment he needed instead of just locking him up.
Maybe, but he killed his mother and attempted to kill his father. If I'd been the father, I think I'd want to have him locked up for fear of a repeat performance.
I as well. Why I'm never having kids, they betray you as you go on.

But why was the lockbox unlocked, and the kid have the experience with a gun to load it with ammo (If the gun was in the box loaded that's even worse) and fire it? Videogames are the fault my ass, it's always psycho people.

Also when I read the title I thought it was referencing games that called themselves "Halo Killers".
Well dylan games have gotten rather graphic now adays and in games like oblivion and halo they actualy show possible ways to pick locks and in games like resident evil they show you how to use a gun. So in my mind he probably learned everything form the diffferent video games he played. because i sincerly doubt this whole thing started over halo.
 

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Death penalty, agreed. Stone cold murderer.

A teenager is old enough to know what death and murder are. Maybe if he was 5 or 6, but really, at his age he's as responsible for his actions as an adult IMO.
 

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Respect guys! I'm new to this forum but I'm already impressed by most of you who can actually think for yourselves (not used to that on the internet).

Anyway I just wanna comment on a few things already stated in this thread. Videogames can't be blamed for any action of this kind, if a person were unstable enough to commit such a crime, he would've found a way to do it (video games, movies etc). But if people start banning those things, they might as well ban the school subject of history (since 90% of it are wars, and wars = people killing eachother), or maybe the news etc... There is noone else to blame but the shooter in these cases. Now there are a few other things I want to write but I'd probably drift off-topic (if i have not already), so I'll just scram now.
 

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he deserves it, there's no reason why you need to go nuts over not playing a video game.
 

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It sickens me that the media blames te game on reflex.
The kid was an idiot, a brad and a nutjob.
The parents were dumbarses for not locking up the weapon properly, and I question their child-raising skills if their kid is acting like this.
 

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I hate that crap. "Petric's attorneys admitted their client had pulled the trigger but shifted the blame onto his youth and "videogame addiction," which they said diminished his responsibility for the crime."
I do nto see how being unstable makes you less responsible. Hell, if you are less stable, that is even worse than someone in a sane mind doing it. A sane person can be reasoned with.
I hate the insanity plea for this same reason.
 

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How does a child grow to the age of 16 and not understand the permanence of death?

The Judge was right to reject the flimsy VG defense.
 

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Xvito said:
squid5580 said:
Xvito said:
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You know what would be awesome?

If every time someone was shot, the people making/selling the guns would be held responsible...

Also, gun control is good for you.
That is like blaming FORD everytime someone gets drunk and behind the wheel. Millions of people can drive sober and not have an accident but that 1 moron who gets drunk and kills someone is not the manufacturers fault. If you have a gun it should be locked up. You can't blame them because you are to damn stupid not to.
No, actually it's more like blaming the people who made/sold the alcohol.

But in my opinion Ford should get some of the blame as well.

Obviously the person who shot/drove/whatever should also get the blame...
Are you serious? Did the person who made or sold the alchohol make him get behind the wheel? Did FORD Ceo run to the bar and put the keys in his hands and tell him you are ok to drive and go home. Hey why not while we are at it blame the victim for being at the wrong place at the wrong time. They didn't have to be infront of him afterall.
Never mind... I thought we were talking in metaphors... Alcohol=bullets, car=gun, driver=shooter.
Even if we were you can you blame an inanimate object for this? Guns have no ill will towards anyone. Smith & Wesson didn't go "lets make this gun so some dumb kid can shoot his parents." Sure it is nice to blame them but it doesn't help the situation at all. There are tons of guns out there that have been/are used for the right reasons. Just because every once in a while a gun is used for the wrong one doesn't mean guns are bad.
 

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... I'm sorry, but he seriously can't have been right in the head. Either MASSIVE anger issues, or he wasn't quite 'in touch' with reality. /seriousnote
On the lighter side, HAH! They're trying to blame games again! Or is that not quite the lighter side?
 

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PurpleRain said:
To argue with ultreos2 I'd be way off the tracks. I'm going to just agree with Dooly95 though.

What's with all this protecting yourself anyway? I never understood that at all. Like, really really can not for the life of me make that part out. Sorry.

If I wanted to protect myself I'd carry a suitcase full of anti-venom and swim in the ocean with chainmail being in Australia with all those snakes, spiders and sharks about.
If I really want to protect myself I'd never drive a car either, nor go outside without ten layers of bubble wrap. The whole 'protect yourselves with a gun' argument is flawed as guns aren't going to save me from death.
There's a point you're ignoring here. I think it's well established that if someone is bound and determined to kill you, they're going to find a way. Having a handgun allows you to stop someone else from threatening you, even if they're bigger, stronger, crazier, or whatever. And this is what makes them unique among weapons--in short, they are an equalizer.

People who engage in violent crime are, in one way or another, playing a dominance game. Their basic premise is "I'm going to rob/rape/murder you, because it satisfies my desires, and you can't stop me." More often than not, they prey on people physically smaller or weaker than them. Always, they use fear to their advantage. Most people would rather avoid confrontation than fight, because not getting hurt > getting hurt. This is fine when all the other guy is after is your wallet; you can recover from lost money. When the attacker is bent on doing you harm though, this avoidant attitude only aids him.

When you are attacked, and you pull out a knife, or a can of mace, or a Tazer, chances are your assailant is just going to laugh at you. Such things, in his mind, only make it more fun by increasing the challenge. When you pull out a gun, though, and make it clear that you're willing to shoot if he persists, it changes the game. Now, you're not a target, you're a threat. And nine times out of ten, this is going to ruin his fun. No fun=no reward, and all he has left is the danger, now amplified, of getting hurt/dying. Yes, there are always going to be people far enough gone that they won't care--this is why you keep the gun loaded, and learn how to hit a target. No, you aren't guaranteed to succeed if this happens, that's just how life works.

Outlaw the guns, and this deterrent goes away. Now, it's all about whether you can overpower your attacker, and avoid taking mortal damage in doing so. He's got the advantage of initiative, since chances are you weren't expecting to be attacked. In the case of this psychotic fellow on the news, he could have very well achieved the same effect by sneaking up on his parents with a large kitchen knife while they were sleeping--perhaps more, since disengaging from a knife-wielding attacker in your face is a lot harder in the confines of the average home. "Pointy end goes in the other guy" isn't that hard to accomplish, and a good adrenaline rush can make up for clumsiness.

As for other defensive measures, having a dose of anti-venom close to hand is not a bad idea if you live in an area with lots of venomous snakes. Chainmail is a bit ostentatious, but clothing with Kevlar inserts and similar ablative measures are easy enough to get online, and often much less heavily regulated than firearms. Heck, even a good leather jacket will provide you a measure of protection against grazing blows; why do you think most motorcycle riders wear one? Protecting yourself isn't about arming yourself to the teeth, thinking you're Rambo. Protecting yourself is about assessing likely--let me stress this, likely threats, and equipping yourself with the appropriate tools, whether that's a dose of anti-venom, a bit of low-profile armor over the vitals, or a handgun.

TL;DR - Banning handguns only makes life easier for violent people, and nothing is a substitute for good sense.