During fallout 3 The Pit DLC I had a moral dilemma with the main quest.
I know the baby is the cure for the disease and will save thousands of lives but come on! You seriously want me to kidnap a baby? I understand the father is a tyrannical dictator and has a bunch of slaves but I still don't feel right kidnapping a baby even if it is morally the best option for the baby and the sick.
This is probally one of the big ones for me. I left them alone, went out and talked to the different slavers. Just to get a bigger picture, but I still couldnt do it. To hell with the slaves.. : /
Not in the way most people would think. They're just games after all, nobody is actually getting hurt so why should something like No Russian or the situation in Red Faction Guerrilla that the TC described bother me?
Nah, the only times a game has made me feel "uncomfortable" is when it asks me to do something to a character I actually like. Take GTA IV for example:
If I do the deal to get the money that Roman wants, Roman dies. If I pass on the deal to "give up" a life of crime (by murdering someone?) and make Kate happy, Kate dies. That one knocked me for a loop for a bit, until I looked at it in terms of gameplay benefits: Kate gives you nothing, Roman gives you free cab rides. So I kept on playing from my Deal save to keep free cab rides.
Prototype 2 is probably going to make me do bad things to Alex Mercer as well, which sucks because I liked Alex Mercer.
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During fallout 3 The Pit DLC I had a moral dilemma with the main quest.
That was kind of a ***** but I had no real problem with it. I spent about three seconds considering it.
The part where i am told to accept a quest to kill all the Forestfolk. Now granted the game doesn't have a lot of story and what little bits about the forestfolk that were in there were trying to convince me they were evil, but i wasn't buying any of it, seemed far too much like it was trying to justify my actions in advance. I really looked hard for another way of doing that and felt crappy when i had to do it to advance the game.
ME2 Renegade/Paragon system. Made me screw Tali.
I wouldn't mind if it was minor amount but it was the loyalty mission and was more than 50 (or so) points.
I never had a problem with whatever Kratos did to anyone in the series, but in GoW3 he uses a defenseless slave girl to hold up this heavy gate mechanism which she is ultimately chrushed by. Not cool, Kratos!
Also, killing Hephaestus. I know he tried to kill me first, but I just really liked the guy.
Mercenaries. You run a series of missions pitting one faction against another, and I ended up having to fight against the faction I most favored. It's not possible to skip the mission, so I lost interest in the game.
Grand Theft Auto IV for me.
Watching Roman get shot at his own wedding.
It was more guilt than anything that made me feel uncomfortable.
I'd wished death a thousand times for ringing me up mid-massacre and asking if i wanted to go get pizza. What in the hell were you thinking game? i didn't REALLY want you to kill him. Figure of speech!
Kid cared about nothing but himself. He's a complete idiot who completely ignores the rather sound advice he gets from Jyunichi while at the same time making Jyunichi carry out his own stupid plans. Then when Jyunichi finally gets out from under Shogo's thumb in favor of Shogo's much more intelligent father, Shogo sells Jyunichi out to the Saints just to try to win a bit of favor with his father. Of course, Shogo is such a failure that his continued attempts at attacking the Saints with Jyunichi gone all fail and only further disappoint his father. This culminates with Shogo trying to attack the Saints at the funeral for Aisha, Johnny's girlfriend and the woman Shogo had Jyunichi kill before selling Jyunichi out. And Johnny, rather than just killing him right then and there, offers Shogo a chance to leave. Once again Shogo is too god damn stupid and starts a fight in the graveyard, yet another fight that he loses. No, not poor Shogo. Shogo deserves everything Johnny does to him in that cutscene and then some. I can only agree with Johnny in the next mission's cutscene: I hope Shogo's still screaming.
That first scene in the Ultor dome where the Saints leader tosses Maero those keys is pretty bad-ass as well. God damn I can't wait for Saints Row The Third, I can't wait to see what kind of absolutely insane ways the Saints will fuck up the Syndicate.
At a certain point in KotOR (II?) I realized that staying neutral meant I didn't get to choose a class specialization. I was already a good five levels past when one would normally be allowed to pick a specialization and this time I wanted to see the Sith powers, so I needed to get as Dark Side as possible as fast as I could...
One of the quests I had involved a woman whose child was stolen and sold into slavery
The dark side option was to convince her to sell herself into slavery to reunite with her daughter. It made me feel absolutely awful, especially after you inform the slaver leader and he laughs about how deliciously evil your act was. I ended up murdering him and his entire compound and then never played that character again.
It made me feel a little uncomfortable to watch the cut scene of myself and Anders making out in my bedroom before having sex because my character is a male, and I'm Heterosexual. I just thought it would be a cool idea to get them together after finding out Anders was gay.
It made the ending so much more fucking difficult though! I hated to have to kill him.
Kid cared about nothing but himself. He's a complete idiot who completely ignores the rather sound advice he gets from Jyunichi while at the same time making Jyunichi carry out his own stupid plans. Then when Jyunichi finally gets out from under Shogo's thumb in favor of Shogo's much more intelligent father, Shogo sells Jyunichi out to the Saints just to try to win a bit of favor with his father. Of course, Shogo is such a failure that his continued attempts at attacking the Saints with Jyunichi gone all fail and only further disappoint his father. This culminates with Shogo trying to attack the Saints at the funeral for Aisha, Johnny's girlfriend and the woman Shogo had Jyunichi kill before selling Jyunichi out. And Johnny, rather than just killing him right then and there, offers Shogo a chance to leave. Once again Shogo is too god damn stupid and starts a fight in the graveyard, yet another fight that he loses. No, not poor Shogo. Shogo deserves everything Johnny does to him in that cutscene and then some. I can only agree with Johnny in the next mission's cutscene: I hope Shogo's still screaming.
That first scene in the Ultor dome where the Saints leader tosses Maero those keys is pretty bad-ass as well. God damn I can't wait for Saints Row The Third, I can't wait to see what kind of absolutely insane ways the Saints will fuck up the Syndicate.
I am not saying the kid was a saint (not the gang, but a literal saint). He deserved to be punished for his crimes and he was an active gang member. I was happy he died but...
I personally would have just killed him with a bullet. Hell, I would have been ok with Johnny beating him up more, making him suffer physical pain. Being buried is some serious psychological torture that I wouldn't wish on anyone, but then again maybe it is because I am freaked out by the concept of being buried alive.
So when I said Poor Shogo...I didn't mean he was a nice guy who deserved to live a long and wonderful life.
But, anyway, I am also so very excited for Saints Row the Third. It looks like wicked fun.
I usually don't have any moral problems in games. I'm currently playing InFamous as an evil bastard who just kills random people.
But in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater near the end when you were just standing there with the person who trained, but also betrayed you, lying on the ground giving you the order to shoot her. I knew I had to do it but it just broke my heart. Worse, he was also awarded with a medal for killing his former boss and friend. It broke my heart even more at the very end of the game when Snake went to her grave saluting for she was the only person who seemed like family to him.
Kid cared about nothing but himself. He's a complete idiot who completely ignores the rather sound advice he gets from Jyunichi while at the same time making Jyunichi carry out his own stupid plans. Then when Jyunichi finally gets out from under Shogo's thumb in favor of Shogo's much more intelligent father, Shogo sells Jyunichi out to the Saints just to try to win a bit of favor with his father. Of course, Shogo is such a failure that his continued attempts at attacking the Saints with Jyunichi gone all fail and only further disappoint his father. This culminates with Shogo trying to attack the Saints at the funeral for Aisha, Johnny's girlfriend and the woman Shogo had Jyunichi kill before selling Jyunichi out. And Johnny, rather than just killing him right then and there, offers Shogo a chance to leave. Once again Shogo is too god damn stupid and starts a fight in the graveyard, yet another fight that he loses. No, not poor Shogo. Shogo deserves everything Johnny does to him in that cutscene and then some. I can only agree with Johnny in the next mission's cutscene: I hope Shogo's still screaming.
That first scene in the Ultor dome where the Saints leader tosses Maero those keys is pretty bad-ass as well. God damn I can't wait for Saints Row The Third, I can't wait to see what kind of absolutely insane ways the Saints will fuck up the Syndicate.
and when I first saw him I imedietly wanted to smash his smug face in with a crowbar
HOWEVER buy the time it got the to end I just pitied him, he's an idiot, he's not cut out to lead the ronin, and his father hates him
which is kind of sad in a way and caused him to make stupid decisions...by the end of it you can tell he's just completley out of his depth and desperate
and his fate at the hands of jhonny....he didnt deserve that, (Id also hazard a guess its a reference to Kill Bill)
I couldt remember any time I had felt uncomfortable during a game because of what it made me do renegade shepard? (like siding with morinth) yup no probs heavy rain trials I enjoyed them some parts of games have made me feel a bit embarassed and therefore a little uncomfortable to play them if someone else is in the room i.e that laughing scene in FFX and some dialogue in Ar Tonelico 2 but generally I have no problem with being a total dick to everybody in games or being really nice to them either usually if theres a moral system I have to work to get it one or the other because left to my own devises it would usually stay in the middle.
Then I remembered a dreamcast game called sword of the berserk:guts rage which I found out later was based on a manga character that game is just weird and made me feel very uncomfortable hard to explain why though it had these plants growing on people taking over their minds and transforming them but they werent necessarily evil cant remember much more also the game was quite difficult due to his massive sword bouncing off walls and a lot of the fighting taking place in enclosed spaces.
Considering that I have killed children in Fallout 1 before they patched it...
and that's not even the worst thing Ive done in a game.
Yeah, morality in a video game doesnt really bother me.
Patched it? What, you can't kill children there anymore? You could in Fallout 2 last time I played it, which was maybe two years ago. I tried to help a few random settlers against attackers at a random encounter, and accidentally mowed down their kid, so I got the "Childkiller" mark. That was pretty weird.
Currently playing Fable 3 for the first time, I am being a good character so having to make all the good decisions regarding the kingdom is costing me a fortune, and without that money we are all going to die! By the way, any tips on that are gladly appreciated
Same. I'm not sure how many times I've played that level (About as much as the rest of the game, but still). And yet I had a problem with killing Hephaestus in GoW 3.
Going to jump on the bandwagon and say No Russian.
It didn't deeply trouble me like many others, but I definitely hesitated the first time I played through it and felt more than a little weird.
I've always wondered why they didn't go a little further with it though in a sense. They give you the option to skip it, so there's no real reason they couldn't have. Specifically, I find it really odd that you can go through the mission without firing a single bullet until you're facing armed enemies and none of your supposed accomplices even bat an eye. You'd think that if you didn't join in, they'd catch on.
It becomes even weirder once you learn that they planned to double-cross you the whole time. Wouldn't YOU be suspicious that they WEREN'T suspicious of your not firing at all?
But way way WAY more uncomfortable for me was the bigfoot stuff in RDR Undead Nightmare. I spent an entire day after that feeling like a really terrible person.
I wonder if someone mentioned this...But In saint's row 2,the part where your character goes against the brother hood,and when he cripples the bosses best friend,and when he kills his girl friend...I was quite sad then,even though I didn't like both of them...And the dance central N.E.R.D. song dance.YOU HAVE TO CHECK THAT DANCE OUT.
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