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randomsix

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The thought of being an organ donor makes me queasy. I feel slightly nauseous just now reading through this thread.

That said, I manned up when I got my driver's license and checked the organ donor box. I suggest you do the same.
 

Internet Kraken

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voorhees123 said:
Madara XIII said:
voorhees123 said:
If you are not a donor then you are not allowed to receive donor organs. Seems fair to me. Why can't that not be a law? Maybe they should make everyone a donor by law, but you have to opt out. If you decide you do not want to donate, then you are screwed if you need a transplant. :)

What about people who can't donate organs due to their frail state or failing? Should we deny them an organ?


Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah NO. There's a reason BS like this isn't implemented. Honestly let people decide how to distribute THEIR body parts.
They would be on donor list but would be unable to donate. Way i see it is if you are unwilling to donate your organs, why should you be allowed to have someone else's?
Becoming a donor is supposed to be a charitable thing you do out of the kindness of your heart. Not something you are forced to do because of a legal obligation. By your logic, everyone should also have to give blood in order to receive blood transplants. People have a right to keep their body the way they want it. I am uncomfortable with the idea of having my organs harvested for medical reasons. It's just a personal issue. Why should I be denied an organ transplant just because of this?

Honestly, the idea of forcing people to have their bodies cut open when they die just seems wrong.
 

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Just sign up as one. As much as losing a family member sucks arse, it helps to know someone lived, my mother died a month ago, the fact that her lungs liver and kidneys saved 3 lives takes a lot of the edge off.
 

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Trivun said:
You know what i think? I reckon that everyone in the country (UK here) should automatically be made an organ donor from birth, as a legal requirement. Then, they can opt-out later if they wish to do so, but only if they can provide proper reasonable justification to a judging panel that they shouldn't have their organs donated. Obviously anyone with medical conditions preventing them from donating shouldn't be put on the list at all, but that's seperate. That way, we drastically reduce the waiting lists for organs as there are plenty more people who are donors by default, and we can still make allowances for those with good reason not to donate. Then everyone wins!
That sounds expensive. I think that indifference is probably what stops people from signing up so it would probably stop them from opting out. I donate blood because it just requires me to be in a certain place once every 16 weeks. Organ donation means I need to fill out paperwork!
 

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I'm an organ donor. If I die, then I don't really need them anymore, might as well go to good use.
 

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It's natural to want your organs to stay inside you, but that's just a habit. Once you're dead, I'm sure you won't mind.

Mackheath said:
No. But you are a hypocrit.

To be honest I think organ donation should be an opt-out scheme, rather than opt in; most people don't sign up due to sheer laziness, or because they are paranoid about urban myths where doctors harvest them for organs alive.
The problem with that myth is that any doctor who's prepared to kill to harvest organs is probably not going to care if they don't have a card saying they can.
 

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Celtic_Kerr said:
I'd like to leave the world the same way I entered it, and to be hoenst
screaming, naked, bald, slimy and inside your mother?

Eugh

OT: Not evil at all. I'm not a donor, though I haven't given it much thought. Dosen't really cocern me, which I guess is a LITTLE short-sighted...
 

Erana

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Trivun said:
You're not evil, but you are somewhat selfish. You'd be willing to take someone else's organ when you need it, but you don't want to give yours away after you die and have no further use for them? Aside from religious reasons, I can see no justification for that, given the organs will be useless to you when you die but could prove to be very useful for someone else...

You know what i think? I reckon that everyone in the country (UK here) should automatically be made an organ donor from birth, as a legal requirement. Then, they can opt-out later if they wish to do so, but only if they can provide proper reasonable justification to a judging panel that they shouldn't have their organs donated. Obviously anyone with medical conditions preventing them from donating shouldn't be put on the list at all, but that's seperate. That way, we drastically reduce the waiting lists for organs as there are plenty more people who are donors by default, and we can still make allowances for those with good reason not to donate. Then everyone wins!
You took the words out of my mouth.
Again.

That being said, just go ahead and sign your name on whatever organ donor form you have. If you're really uncomfortable with the idea of knowing that your body will be harvested, you can opt-out when you're dying.

Aeriath said:
Trivun said:
You know what i think? I reckon that everyone in the country (UK here) should automatically be made an organ donor from birth, as a legal requirement. Then, they can opt-out later if they wish to do so, but only if they can provide proper reasonable justification to a judging panel that they shouldn't have their organs donated. Obviously anyone with medical conditions preventing them from donating shouldn't be put on the list at all, but that's seperate. That way, we drastically reduce the waiting lists for organs as there are plenty more people who are donors by default, and we can still make allowances for those with good reason not to donate. Then everyone wins!
That sounds expensive. I think that indifference is probably what stops people from signing up so it would probably stop them from opting out. I donate blood because it just requires me to be in a certain place once every 16 weeks. Organ donation means I need to fill out paperwork!
Last time I checked, there's an opt-in option right on the back of your driver's lisence. Just put your signature there and you're good to go.
 

C95J

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of course not, but if you would gladly take organs then really you should give organs. It's only fair on other people, if they are left to die and you aren't.
 

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When I'm dead you can all help yourselves. Hell, I'm not going to need it.

I have terrible eyesight though, you might not want my eyeballs.
 

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Why would anyone not be a donor? It's simply illogical, you won't be needing the organs! So you would rather let people die than sign a piece of paper that doesn't impact your life in any way? That's pretty evil right there... Also, I don't like hypocrits. So yeah, you're evil!
 

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I don't think that you are evil. People have different opionions on things and we shouldn't judge people for that!

Personally I am not registered as a donor but I am planning on it.

Some Christian groups don't believe in donating organs and I don't think that people would classify an average Christian as evil just because their religion says they shouldn't donate organs.
 

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ajemas said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
archvile93 said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
I'm an avid believer in "You get what you give"

If I need help, I wouldn't expect an organ to be given to me, as I have not signed an organ donor card, but if they wish and do give me an organ then I'd be fine with it, I just don't really expect it.

I suppose if ever someone's organ does save me I'll sign the card
What do you care if someones taking your organs, you'll be dead?
I don't know to be honest, I've asked myself that a few times, and each time I come up thinking it would feel like a certain desecration of my body. I'd like to leave the world the same way I entered it, and to be hoenst, I'd prefer to die of an organ failure than to have someone's organs used to keep me alive.
"A desecration of your body"? Have you seen what happens after you die? Natural decomposers break down every part of your corpse. It becomes bloated and disgusting, as every single body system and organ gets slowly consumed and degraded. Believe me, if you've really looked at a decaying corpse, you'd realize that giving an organ is far less of a desecration than normal decomposition.
Then you havn't read all my posts. Take a look back and see the one where I basically say "Natural decomposition is natural. Being sliced upen my surgeons ans systematically taken apart and scavenged for my good parts is desecration in my mind". Whether they cut me open or not, I decompose. It's the artifical addition of having your body pulled apart that turns me off
 

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GrinningManiac said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
I'd like to leave the world the same way I entered it, and to be hoenst
screaming, naked, bald, slimy and inside your mother?

Eugh

OT: Not evil at all. I'm not a donor, though I haven't given it much thought. Dosen't really cocern me, which I guess is a LITTLE short-sighted...
Fully intact and all my proper parts in place
 

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ayuri said:
I'm not a donor, a ,a soldier, a doctor or charitable. do you think any less of me.
I don't think I can judge you solely off of those things.

But, if there's one mindset I don't understand, it's the mindset that the world owes you something. For example: I have a cousin who recently got approved to receive Pell Grant money. He said he filled out the FAFSA form correctly, but I'm not so sure about that because the tuition to the vocational school he's attending is being paid for by another program.

So either way, he's getting the money, and he intends to use the money to buy a car. The car doesn't even run, he'll have to spend more money to fix it up. And here's the kicker: he's already got a truck that runs just fine (well, it did until a few days ago, but that's not the point.)

I asked him about it, and he said that the way he sees it, he pays taxes too, so it's his money just as much as anyone else's. That really got under my skin. I've seen the Pell Grant pay the tuition of a single teen mom who otherwise wouldn't have access to higher education. But here he is, accepting the money so he can have a car to play around with.

In your point of view, our sole reason for existence may not be helping others, but don't you think it enriches our lives that much more? I've noticed that most folks who don't give back every now and then have never had to receive that sort of help. Frankly, neither have I, but I still think I owe it to the world to share the numerous blessings I have. If not for the sake of itself, then at the very least, for the sake of karma.
 

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Your body, your choice. The evil thing to do would be to sign the card because you feel guilty about not signing it. You should sign it because you think that in the event you are declared dead and your organs are still useful, you'd want someone to use your organs. You should sign because it makes you feel good about doing it. Is there any rational reason not to sign it? As far as I can gather, not particularly, but if we let rationality and logic control all our decisions, we'd be damn Vulcans.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
voorhees123 said:
Madara XIII said:
voorhees123 said:
If you are not a donor then you are not allowed to receive donor organs. Seems fair to me. Why can't that not be a law? Maybe they should make everyone a donor by law, but you have to opt out. If you decide you do not want to donate, then you are screwed if you need a transplant. :)

What about people who can't donate organs due to their frail state or failing? Should we deny them an organ?


Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah NO. There's a reason BS like this isn't implemented. Honestly let people decide how to distribute THEIR body parts.
They would be on donor list but would be unable to donate. Way i see it is if you are unwilling to donate your organs, why should you be allowed to have someone else's?
Becoming a donor is supposed to be a charitable thing you do out of the kindness of your heart. Not something you are forced to do because of a legal obligation. By your logic, everyone should also have to give blood in order to receive blood transplants. People have a right to keep their body the way they want it. I am uncomfortable with the idea of having my organs harvested for medical reasons. It's just a personal issue. Why should I be denied an organ transplant just because of this?

Honestly, the idea of forcing people to have their bodies cut open when they die just seems wrong.
This post kinda reeks of asshole. You expect to be given an organ from someone else if you need the help, and when fully capable of doing the same, you say that you "Think it's an uncomfortable" idea. The difference between me and you is that sure, I don't want to give my organs away, and I would probably deny an organ transplant. However, if they gave me one and I lived, i's sign my donor card and "return the favor" to another.

I do not expect to even be offered an organ due to my non-desire to donate.