I am NOT a donor, am I EDIT: a bad person? EDIT!

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PayneTrayne

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I've no need for them, so please take them. As long as you are POSITIVE that I'm dead.

I would also like organs if I ever need them.
 

Internet Kraken

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voorhees123 said:
So you feel that its ok to deny others your organs and life, but its a different matter if you need an organ? That is just idiotic. If you do not want to donate an organ, why should you be allowed to recieive one?
Because, again, donating organs is not a moral obligation, it's something you do out of the kindness of your heart. I have several phobias related to the human body, so the thought of donating organs is something that makes me very uncomfortable and ill. I know it's irrational, but it's not something I can just wish away. You're saying I should be denied an organ transplant because of this.

I'm not saying that some random person should give me their organs when they don't want to. What I'm saying is that if someone has given away their organs to be used by anyone, why should it matter if another donor receives them?
Celtic_Kerr said:
This post kinda reeks of asshole.
How mature.

You expect to be given an organ from someone else if you need the help, and when fully capable of doing the same, you say that you "Think it's an uncomfortable" idea. The difference between me and you is that sure, I don't want to give my organs away, and I would probably deny an organ transplant. However, if they gave me one and I lived, i's sign my donor card and "return the favor" to another.

I do not expect to even be offered an organ due to my non-desire to donate.

I never said I expected to receive an organ transplant. Again, I don't expect some random person who wouldn't normally donate their organs even in death to give me one. What I'm saying is that you shouldn't be forced to donate organs just to get an organ transplant. The person I originally quoted suggested withholding organs from people who aren't donors, and I objected to this since it turned what is supposed to be a charitable action into a legal obligation.
 

ssgt splatter

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I'm not a donor either...but if I do become one, it will be a blood donor and I will want to be paid for doing it too, so I guess you can call me somewhat of an evil person, giving blood as long as I get paid.
 

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Erana said:
Aeriath said:
Trivun said:
You know what i think? I reckon that everyone in the country (UK here) should automatically be made an organ donor from birth, as a legal requirement. Then, they can opt-out later if they wish to do so, but only if they can provide proper reasonable justification to a judging panel that they shouldn't have their organs donated. Obviously anyone with medical conditions preventing them from donating shouldn't be put on the list at all, but that's seperate. That way, we drastically reduce the waiting lists for organs as there are plenty more people who are donors by default, and we can still make allowances for those with good reason not to donate. Then everyone wins!
That sounds expensive. I think that indifference is probably what stops people from signing up so it would probably stop them from opting out. I donate blood because it just requires me to be in a certain place once every 16 weeks. Organ donation means I need to fill out paperwork!
Last time I checked, there's an opt-in option right on the back of your driver's lisence. Just put your signature there and you're good to go.
I don't have one unfortunately =(. I really should sign up as an organ donor, I'm just too lazy to actually do it which is why I give my support to an opt-out system since other people will do the paprerwork for that.
 

rokkolpo

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It's a choice.

I chose not to as well.
I just don't want parts of me in someone else after I died.

Even if I don't use them anymore.

call me selfish or whatever but I am just not ok with that idea.
 

Celtic_Kerr

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Internet Kraken said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
This post kinda reeks of asshole.
How mature.

You expect to be given an organ from someone else if you need the help, and when fully capable of doing the same, you say that you "Think it's an uncomfortable" idea. The difference between me and you is that sure, I don't want to give my organs away, and I would probably deny an organ transplant. However, if they gave me one and I lived, i's sign my donor card and "return the favor" to another.

I do not expect to even be offered an organ due to my non-desire to donate.

I never said I expected to receive an organ transplant. Again, I don't expect some random person who wouldn't normally donate their organs even in death to give me one. What I'm saying is that you shouldn't be forced to donate organs just to get an organ transplant. The person I originally quoted suggested withholding organs from people who aren't donors, and I objected to this since it turned what is supposed to be a charitable action into a legal obligation.
I think it sounds rather fair to be honest. Maybe not make it a law, but make it a major impact factor with the organ donor board that decides these things.
 

standokan

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Well being a donor is not like a big deal and it can save lives, you´re not immediatly evil by refusing to save someones life by donating things you dont need anyway, are you?
 

dragonslayer32

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I wouldn't call you evil, but possibly selfish. When you are dead, you really don't need your organs and think of how the person who's life you save and their family will feel. Personally, I am not on a register but my parents know I want my organs donating.
 

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A-Heart-Of-Gold said:
I don't think that you are evil. People have different opionions on things and we shouldn't judge people for that!

Personally I am not registered as a donor but I am planning on it.

Some Christian groups don't believe in donating organs and I don't think that people would classify an average Christian as evil just because their religion says they shouldn't donate organs.
I wouldn't classify them as evil, just zealous and stupid. The fact of the matter is, it's extremely and unbelievably selfish. Think about it: Say there's a homeless person and you're a trillionaire. You walk by and realize that you had $50,000 left from your shopping spree that you didn't need, and you rip up the money into shreds because "It's my money, I'm entitled to it, and I don't like the idea of a hobo having MY money." Is that your right as a person to do so? Yes. Does it make you a selfish undeserving prick? You betcha.

Give an organ, get an organ. Too immature to check off a box for whatever trivial dumbshit reason, then death's sweet embrace awaits you. Have fun decomposing, where your body will be defiled a hell of a lot more than it would in a morgue where at least you'd be doing something good for the world in giving your organs away. You're dead. You don't need them. Get over yourself. (btw this isn't still directed at the person i quoted)
 

L3G0kees

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Just wondering, who of you really is donor.
I don't know if I will be a donor, I'm 16 so I can't fill out a form (in the Netherlands), but I don't know what I'm goeing to fill in, I don't like the idea, but I like the arguments to become a donor
 

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Trivun said:
You're not evil, but you are somewhat selfish. You'd be willing to take someone else's organ when you need it, but you don't want to give yours away after you die and have no further use for them? Aside from religious reasons, I can see no justification for that, given the organs will be useless to you when you die but could prove to be very useful for someone else...

You know what i think? I reckon that everyone in the country (UK here) should automatically be made an organ donor from birth, as a legal requirement. Then, they can opt-out later if they wish to do so, but only if they can provide proper reasonable justification to a judging panel that they shouldn't have their organs donated. Obviously anyone with medical conditions preventing them from donating shouldn't be put on the list at all, but that's seperate. That way, we drastically reduce the waiting lists for organs as there are plenty more people who are donors by default, and we can still make allowances for those with good reason not to donate. Then everyone wins!
Haven't they sort of done that already, in that it's changed from an opt-in system to an opt-out one. It makes sense. Though, personally, I don't agree with having to provide proper justification to opt-out. It seems to me that people should be able to opt-out if they wish, no matter the reason.
 

TheEvilCheese

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Trivun said:
You know what i think? I reckon that everyone in the country (UK here) should automatically be made an organ donor from birth, as a legal requirement. Then, they can opt-out later if they wish to do so, but only if they can provide proper reasonable justification to a judging panel that they shouldn't have their organs donated. Obviously anyone with medical conditions preventing them from donating shouldn't be put on the list at all, but that's seperate. That way, we drastically reduce the waiting lists for organs as there are plenty more people who are donors by default, and we can still make allowances for those with good reason not to donate. Then everyone wins!
I'm inclined to agree but at the same time I don't think that opting out should require justification.
After all, surely you choose what you want to do with your body no matter what others may think.

I think if donating was the default state then many more people would donate organs, but as it requires an input people just don't care enough to do it.
 

Ravek

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I wouldn't be opposed to a rule that says that if you want to be eligible for receiving organs, then you also have to sign off yours for donation after your death. A quid pro quo rule makes perfect sense. Of course people who have no interesting organs to donate because of their poor health would not be penalized by such a rule.

But I am very much opposed to calling people who are not registered donors hypocritical. It should be your own choice what you do with your organs.

For what it's worth, Medicine can harvest whatever they like after my death. I have no use for it anyway.
 

Cowabungaa

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Trivun said:
You know what i think? I reckon that everyone in the country (UK here) should automatically be made an organ donor from birth, as a legal requirement. Then, they can opt-out later if they wish to do so, but only if they can provide proper reasonable justification to a judging panel that they shouldn't have their organs donated.
While I'm all for organ donation, and I'm still trying to muster up the guts to make myself a donor as well (no idea why I find it tough) that just goes too far, other people deciding what happens to your body. It's my body, no one else's.

Anyway, mister OP, yeah it's a bit selfish but it's your choice.
 

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Celtic_Kerr said:
GrinningManiac said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
I'd like to leave the world the same way I entered it, and to be hoenst
screaming, naked, bald, slimy and inside your mother?

Eugh

OT: Not evil at all. I'm not a donor, though I haven't given it much thought. Dosen't really cocern me, which I guess is a LITTLE short-sighted...
Fully intact and all my proper parts in place
You do know that, since birth, literally every cell in your body has died and been replaced hundreds of thousands of times, right?

Would you opt out of surgery if your appendix burst? How about your tonsils? Wisdom teeth? Would reconstructive surgery using metal or plastics to replace bone count as desecration?
 

BlackStar42

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Couldn't resist.

OT: I wouldn't say evil, but selfish. What use are your organs to you once you're dead?