NeuroticDogDad said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
Why does everyone take what I say so far from context?
Wood is natural, beavers are nature's pets, YES! It is natural. I was born with my organ within my body. I would like to die and decompose as such. THat is my current wish. These are my current thoughts. If I chose to have my life saved through organ transplants, I'll sign my own bloody donor card.
However, taking organs from one man's body and placing them in another's is articifical. Rather than dying, you are taking organs from someone's dead body, keeping them stored on ice, and then using them to keep someone alive when "Their time has come". Those are my beliefs.
You have anti-inflammitories to stop swelling, anti-biotics to stop infection, Ny-Quill to help with congestion and colds, Tylenol for headaches, pain killers for other pains, Vicodin, morphine. When I had my whisdom teeth removed, I used vicodin for two days, and then rode out the pain naturally because I hated the idea of using a man-made creation of medicine to over-ride a natural pain that came from ripping 4 teeth out of my mouth that would have caused me pain for the rest of my life (they were growing sideways towards my jaw-bone).
Your metaphor for a cast is rather vein. When did I say I would never undergo such a treatment? Read ALL my posts before you respond on one, especially if an explanatory post comes after the one you quote. A cast is VERY different from cutting open a dead body and removing organs
I do apologise because I don't think it was clear in my post but I'm not trying to say you're wrong or even necessarily change your mind but to understand you because it's quite obvious that the way we think isn't the same. Don't get excited, angry or frustrated, I'm not misquoting or taking things out of context intentionally and unfortunately I don't have the time or short term memory to either go through all your posts again and again or remember them one time through but I'm trying my best.
In the artificial/natural statement and indeed the cast analogy I'm merely trying to provide a context to your statements. It appears you selectively choose what you're comfortable with without a clear trend as to the natural or artificial.
Organ transplants are artificial and you're not comfortable with them but a cast is artificial and you would be ok with it?
Both the dental procedure you underwent and the vicodin are artificial and you were ok with one but not the other?
You also didn't explain why you considered the dam natural and organ transplants unnatural. Both are simply creations of creatures of the earth. "Artifical" simply means made by man, man being part of nature.
In fact, I never understood why artificial and natural are antonyms. Have you got any opinions on why that is?
As a side note, should we continue in this off-topic way or should I create a specific thread for this discussion?
Think of it this way. The human body was created to stop in the middle of a forest and drink swamp water. We used to be able to digest SWAMP water like it was filtered crystal clear sping water. Now men are ebing told you have to drink mineral bottled water because it's all that's good for you. It's against the way the human body was designed.
A beaver builds a dam in order to create a home. it's always been like that in nature, since beavers existed, they've always done such things. nothing altered the creature to do this.
Pain killers and such are unnatural, yes, but unnecessary. It's created to do something your body can do all on it's own given enough time. if your leg breaks, it's not meant to heal in the exact same position, it might mend wrong, and be useless to you. You could even possibly die, as you said, from starvation in the desert. If I didn't get that wisdom tooth surgery, I could have gotten my jaw damaged and been in pain the rest of my life, so I made an exception and bit the bullet so to speak. The vicodin seemedlike a good idea, but in the end it was unnecessary, so I didn't use it after I got over the initial pain (Vicodin also knocked me senseless the first two days, another idea I didn't like).
The organs would be removed once I died. I believe that I want my body to remain as it was at the time of death, even as it will decomposee and have criters crawling around it. The use of my organs to keep another human alive seems artificial to me, despite the fact that it's an organic material. His kidney failed, he should have died. His time had come, but now he's being kept alive through artificial means: Another kidney that was placed in him.
.....Bah whatthe with the *Gibberish*
