I have proven that God exists

[jboking]

I was thinking about how we proved that there are an unlimited number of alternate universes.

This means that anything that can happen will happen.
Statistically speaking, doesn't this mean that there must be a God? Or at least something approximately the same?
I mean God is, what, a creature that can manipulate matter at the molecular level?
It would also mean that every religion is the right one.

We haven't actually proven statement one true, and even if we had, that doesn't automatically mean statement two is true. Also, if we were to believe that there was a god in another universe it still wouldn't account for some of the most basic problems with a god existing in our reality(see the problem of suffering, evil, etc., etc.). Finally, statistically there is no chance of statistics proving something exists. It could prove that a mutation could occur in something that already exists, but not that something could pop into existence. Remember, existence is not a property.

 

[Juraz]

Maybe in an alternate universe op is not a fag.

 

[feather240]

Prove me wrong, but if I'm correct time has no beginning and has no end. Doesn't that mean that everything that COULD happen, has already happened before, in the distant, distant past?

No.
The universe changes over time, this means that something can be possible without being certain.

In fact, provided the probabilty generaly decreases over time, you can have an event that has positive probabilty for all time, yet might still never happen.

Your response confuses me. If there's any sort of possibility that an event can happen, and if you agree with me that time has no beginning and no end, logically and statistically that even would already have had to happen.

It could happen again. In fact it's probably already happened infinite amount of times. Everything has happened and will happen infinite times.

 

[Ares Tyr]

I didn't know that the multiverse theory had become a fact.

Or maybe, you know, it never did become a fact.

But it would be cool if Dr. Manhattan DID exist in an alternative dimension.

 

[Turtleboy1017]

Prove me wrong, but if I'm correct time has no beginning and has no end. Doesn't that mean that everything that COULD happen, has already happened before, in the distant, distant past?

No.
The universe changes over time, this means that something can be possible without being certain.

In fact, provided the probabilty generaly decreases over time, you can have an event that has positive probabilty for all time, yet might still never happen.

Your response confuses me. If there's any sort of possibility that an event can happen, and if you agree with me that time has no beginning and no end, logically and statistically that even would already have had to happen.

It could happen again. In fact it's probably already happened infinite amount of times. Everything has happened and will happen infinite times.

Precisely the point that I was trying to make. It's kinda cool thinking that all of our video game stories have happened before, assuming that time has no end or beginning.

 

[Taco of flames]

In an infinite number of universes, anything is possible. However, as has been stated before, without proof that he exists in this universe, or a method of interdimensional travel, no. He does not.

Scratch that, just find a wizard of 17th level, he'll take you to a different dimension.

 

[Iron Mal]

The possibility of a God does not constitute proof of a God.

It was entirely possible that the world could have ended back in the year 2000 but alas it did not happen.

To undoubtably prove something's existance (scientifically speaking) you would require explicit, reliable and falsafiable evidence to support your theory or it is nothing more than a theory.

 

[Soldier Ace]

Does anyone remember that one paradox that could, "supposedly", disprove God.

First we have to assume God can do anything, because that's one of the things that makes him God.

Well, if God can do anything then he can make a wall he can't jump over, right? Then he can't jump over the wall, which means he can't do everything. Well if he can do everything, then he can jump over the wall, he can jump over any wall, right? If he can jump over any wall, then he can't build a wall he can't jump over. He can't do everything.

Another interesting view, of course it's not that serious just strange.

 

[Maze1125]

Prove me wrong, but if I'm correct time has no beginning and has no end. Doesn't that mean that everything that COULD happen, has already happened before, in the distant, distant past?

No.
The universe changes over time, this means that something can be possible without being certain.

In fact, provided the probabilty generaly decreases over time, you can have an event that has positive probabilty for all time, yet might still never happen.

Your response confuses me. If there's any sort of possibility that an event can happen, and if you agree with me that time has no beginning and no end, logically and statistically that even would already have had to happen.

That's only true if the probability remains constant.
You can take an event who's probability peaks at our current time but tends to zero from the past and to the future, and that event may never happen despite being possible.

 

[twistedshadows]

You can't suplex what isn't real.

Spoiler

You really, really, really like that image, don't you?
Also, do you look like Harry Potter (since everyone seems to think that's who that is)?

 

[LornMind]

Yeah, that's plausible. The universe is also theorized to be infinite. That means that there is a chance that somewhere in this universe there is a being described as He is in Scripture. But if its infinite, that means A LOT more things too.

Like Cthulu.

 

[Turtleboy1017]

Prove me wrong, but if I'm correct time has no beginning and has no end. Doesn't that mean that everything that COULD happen, has already happened before, in the distant, distant past?

No.
The universe changes over time, this means that something can be possible without being certain.

In fact, provided the probabilty generaly decreases over time, you can have an event that has positive probabilty for all time, yet might still never happen.

Your response confuses me. If there's any sort of possibility that an event can happen, and if you agree with me that time has no beginning and no end, logically and statistically that even would already have had to happen.

That's only true if the probability remains constant.
You can take an event who's probability peaks at our current time but tends to zero from the past and to the future, and that event may never happen despite being possible.

But that's not the point. The probability doesn't matter in the slightest because the event has literally infinite time to occur. INFINITE TIME. This must mean that it HAD to have happened, for unless the probability of the event is ZERO it has infinite time to do it, meaning it must have happened.

 

[Triaed]

Err... this universe IS finite. About 15 Billion light years in diametre

 

[Maze1125]

Prove me wrong, but if I'm correct time has no beginning and has no end. Doesn't that mean that everything that COULD happen, has already happened before, in the distant, distant past?

No.
The universe changes over time, this means that something can be possible without being certain.

In fact, provided the probabilty generaly decreases over time, you can have an event that has positive probabilty for all time, yet might still never happen.

Your response confuses me. If there's any sort of possibility that an event can happen, and if you agree with me that time has no beginning and no end, logically and statistically that even would already have had to happen.

That's only true if the probability remains constant.
You can take an event who's probability peaks at our current time but tends to zero from the past and to the future, and that event may never happen despite being possible.

But that's not the point. The probability doesn't matter in the slightest because the event has literally infinite time to occur. INFINITE TIME. This must mean that it HAD to have happened, for unless the probability of the event is ZERO it has infinite time to do it, meaning it must have happened.

Not necessarily.
Infinite sums can sum to finite values provided the sequence used to generate the sum tends to zero.

Think of it this way, the universe is constantly expanding, this means that in general every particle is getting further away from every other particle. Certain events require particular particle interactions to happen but this requires the particles to be in proximity and as every particle is moving away from each other this means the probability of these particle interactions is decreasing.

So, for every hour the necessary interaction doesn't happen, the next hour it is even less likely to happen. Continue this forever and it is quite plausible that the event may never happen.

 

[dallan262]

this just reminds me about the futurama episode haha

 

[feather240]

Prove me wrong, but if I'm correct time has no beginning and has no end. Doesn't that mean that everything that COULD happen, has already happened before, in the distant, distant past?

No.
The universe changes over time, this means that something can be possible without being certain.

In fact, provided the probabilty generaly decreases over time, you can have an event that has positive probabilty for all time, yet might still never happen.

Your response confuses me. If there's any sort of possibility that an event can happen, and if you agree with me that time has no beginning and no end, logically and statistically that even would already have had to happen.

It could happen again. In fact it's probably already happened infinite amount of times. Everything has happened and will happen infinite times.

Precisely the point that I was trying to make. It's kinda cool thinking that all of our video game stories have happened before, assuming that time has no end or beginning.

Think, Yahtzee been trapped in the Final Fantasy Universe an infinite amount of times. Poor guy...

You think that we never die we only lose our memories?

 

[SideburnsPuppy]

Your argument depends on the fact that God can happen, and the argument of most atheists is that God can't happen. God is more than a being who can manipulate matter. He can also exist in a non-physical way, view all the events of the world at once, and view time in a non-linear fashion. This is why that, while being put through a particle-destroyer-doohickey might give one the power to control substances, all the other crap is dumb and Doctor Manhattan is just plain silly.

I have no idea how one can "prove" the existence of alternate universes (or God for that matter) because science is based on experimentation and not philosophizing. This sort of stuff is ethereal and impossible to prove. Who is "we" and how did they prove that everything we do creates an alternate universe?

 

[Sightless Wisdom]

Well if the theory of multiple alternate universes has indeed become fact then I suppose your right. But last time I checked it was just speculation, this is still interesting nonetheless.