I will not be purchasing Skyrim.

[GameChanger]

Don't know if it has been mentioned yet, but Bethesda Softworks (the publisher) is not the same as Bethesda Game Studios (the maker of Skyrim).

All things considered, you will probably use this as an excuse to download the game. Just buy it, K?

 

[Odbarc]

I hope their game isn't going to be so buggy it crashes all the time like all their other games.

 

[theheroofaction]

Well, if you boycotted every company that's tried to sue people for pretty much pointless reasons, then you'd have to boycott every company.

So therein lies the problem.

 

[pppppppppppppppppp]

I want to start out by saying i am a huge huge fan of the Elder Scrolls series, and a huge huge fan of Bethesda in general.

Between Fallout 3, Morrowind and Oblivion, I have lost somewhere in the vicinity of 400+ hours of my life.

I am fan. I am huge fan.

And I will not be purchasing Skyrim.

I want to make it clear, I have been lusting for Skyrim since it was announced. All press I have seen looks magnificent. Everything I have heard sounds incredible. It looks like another brilliant Bethesda game that I will subsequently lose a massive portion of my life and time to.

And I will not be purchasing it.

Because of this:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.315129-Mojang-and-Bethesda-Are-Going-to-Court

I will not support a company that attempts to use lawsuits as a means of flagrant bullying and outright douchbaggery in order to crush perceived competition.

If Bethesda goes through with this utter horseshit of a frivolous lawsuit, I will no longer support Bethesda.

Even though this means I will never play Skyrim, I will no longer support Bethesda in any way.

I will not purchase their products. I will not play products of theirs that I already own.

I have already sacrificed 400+ hours of work on Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout 3, deleting the games from my hard drive and removing all saves.

Bethesda will make a hundred bajillion dollars off of Skyrim.

Not a single penny of it will be from me.

Team Mojang.

Oh, god. I laughed so hard at this.

Get over yourself. The title lawsuit isn't a big deal and Bethesda couldn't care less about your 50$. I'd bet a lot of money you'll buy the game anyway in two months.

 

[Panorama]

I will still be buying the game to be honest, i don't feel that strongly about the situation as i do not have the full information,

 

[someonehairy-ish]

The guys who actually make the game and the legal department that is dicking around with Mojang are a seperate group of people.
The actual developers are probably almost as supportive of Mojang as you are. Probably.

Meh, even if you don't crumble before the game releases, coming to the Escapist and seeing everyone raving will probably make you

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Buy it second hand. Then your just supporting the game store.

 

[thestickman91]

1) The guys in suits that decide whether or not to sue people have nothing to do with the guys that actually make the games.

2)If Bethesda don't sue Mojang now, then when scrolls gets released Morjang COULD sue Bethesda for exactly the same reasons. Bethesda would be leaving themselves very open to attack if they didn't act now.

Didn't a similar kind of thing happen with James Cameron's Avatar and Avatar: The Last Airbender?

 

[Apollo45]

To be fair, when I heard Mojang was coming out with a game called Scrolls, my first thought was "huh, wonder if it'll be anything like The Elder Scrolls."

Now, while I don't necessarily think the lawsuit is the right thing to do, I'm also not a lawyer, nor am I a game developer. Bethesda has been one of the better companies out there, certainly better than EA or Activision. I enjoy their games consistently, and have since I started playing Morrowind on a computer that could barely handle the graphics at the lowest possible quality (I now buy my computers based almost solely on the thought, "will it be able to handle the next Bethesda game?").

As much as I love Minecraft and Mojang, I can see the reason why they're doing it (even if I don't agree), and I love Bethesda games. If you're going to base all your purchasing habits on things like this, then you really shouldn't be buying games from EA, or Activision, or nearly any big publisher out there.

 

[AbsoluteVirtue18]

Bethesda has a decent reason to want Mojang to change the game's name, and it wouldn't be that hard for Mojang to change it. You know how many people would buy Scrolls thinking that it's an Elder Scrolls game? Mojang probably knew ahead of time that some people would do just that, and they probably did it on purpose. So go ahead, don't buy Skyrim. Delete all your save games. Throw your little hissy fit. I don't care.

 

[Insideout Ink Demon]

what is the point of this thread? the escapist have already covered the lawsuit

 

[silversnake4133]

I really hope Mojang wins this. I mean come on, why is the series named "the Elder Scrolls"? Where are all the scrolls? What are they? Why are they important? Do they tell you where to do? Do they give you messages? Are you supposed to find them? All I've been getting about TES is dungeon crawling, leveling up, character customizations and dragons.

The importance of the "scrolls" as deemed by the plot of every Elder Scrolls game:
The physical Elder Scrolls play a very limited role in the storyline of the series, serving only as framing plot device (i.e., "[the events in this game] were foretold in the Elder Scrolls..."). The Elder Scrolls themselves are rarely referred to in game or even in the in-game literature. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion marked the first actual appearance of the scrolls as a MacGuffin in a quest-line.

Huh, okay, and why was Bethesda bitching again? The article continues by saying that in Oblivion, the character actually is tasked to steal ONE Elder scroll. And even when they do, you can't read it. Wow...our plot device ladies and gentlemen.

In Mojang's "Scrolls" the items are actually a major part of the game. It says directly from the site that the character collects scrolls and uses them in battle.

Scrolls is Mojang's next game and offers a new and unique game play where you fight to outmaneuver your opponent on the battlefield using the destructive powers in your collection of magical scrolls.

So is Konami going to go after them then because of the obscure reference to card games? Is Wizards of the Coast going to go after them because of the obscure relations to Dungeons and Dragons? Heck why not send the proverbial rabid dogs of Blizzard in there as well because it's an RPG. And if the whole big deal is with the word "scrolls" why hasn't the English monarchy attacked Softmax for their Magna Carta series? If you can see what I did there, you get an internet cookie.

There hath be no intellectual words that can describe why this is stupid. If Bethesda is so worried that other people will make video games that are practically rip-offs of their Elder Scrolls series, then they should go after them IF they arise. I bet if they would have just left Mojang alone, there wouldn't be a problem. All this seems to be doing is earning Mojang and Notch great publicity, and Bethesda a rather bad image.

 

[Yopaz]

I find it strange that everyone in this thread is relentlessly mocking this guy over his boycott, but I could barely find a single person willing to even admit they were still buying Diablo 3 during all of its hate threads.

I mean I guess the diablo 3 controversy was over actual elements of the game itself, versus the practice of its developers, but it still seems a little imbalanced.

Selective hatred I guess xD.

Edit: On that note, does anyone else find it weird that nobody has made a boycott thread about gears of war 3 selling those 21 premium weapon skins on day one? Theres like..6 in the actual game, and 3 of those required the beta, and cheevos from gears 1 and 2. So there are really only 3 skins in the game available for unlock without doing extra stuff, and the remaining 21 require a purchase.

it doesn't bother me too much, since they are relatively cheap and I can just buy a few and be done with it, but it seems like the kind of thing people would jump all over considering its similarities to the portal 2 hat fiasco.

OK, so you missed it. Diablo 3 had restrictive DRM.
The developers of Skyrim has done nothing. The publishers are suing a company over reasons that doesn't make sense to someone who hasn't read the copyright and trademark laws in detail.
Gears of War selling skins. That doesn't affect the gameplay at all.

OT: I wont be buying Skyrim simply because I'm not interested.

I didn't miss that, I just don't care. Its nowhere near the deal breaker people have made it out to be. As for the skins, I actually do agree with you on that, but I still expected controversy because, as I said, portal 2 drummed up an unholy level of anger over an almost identical system.

You went into enough detail to explain why it was a deal breaker and that Diablo 3's DRM would affect the game. You missed the difference between publisher and developer. Most here defend the developer and the game, since neither got anything to do with the lawsuit.

 

[Lejsen]

I just think the idea of having the title ELDER SCROLLS copyrighted immediately gives you control over the individual words as well is ridiculous.

 

[DocBalance]

I'm trying really hard to care, but I don't.

Really, you aren't trying to convince us to follow you. You've said so yourself. So why do this? Yeah, you have an opinion, but what's the point of it other than you having an opinion?

You won't be buying Skyrim. Enough people to populate a moderate third-world nation will. Do the math.

 

[Epona]

Look at it this way, Bethesda is the name of the company doing this, while Bethesda Softworks is the name of the company that actually made Skyrim. The game itself (the people who made it etc.) has nothing to do with the overly zealous corporate branch causing these court problems past some copyright definitions. Do you think you're going to see Tod Howard in that court room being a dick? Well you won't. If you want to punish yourself by not buying Skyrim over some moral conviction, fine, but know that it accomplishes absolutely nothing on any scale other than you missing out.

Bethesda is also the name of the company who will get money if you buy Skyrim. How is "it's not the dev team, it's the legal team" even a defense. Talk about apologists.

Yeah, but how is not buying a game, when you were really looking forward to it and liked the last few games from them, just to make a point that will have no financial impact on the offending company whatsoever, accomplishing ANYTHING?? Talk about futile and empty gestures.

How about using the only consumer rights to not buy something for whatever reason we want? Why is that frowned upon and really if it is futile, why do YOU even care?

 

[Mark Hardigan]

So because Bethesda is certain that Scrolls not only infringes on their trademark but that they believe that it will confuse gamers... they are bad people? Really? So they weren't evil when they sued Interplay over Fallout because they believed that Interplay breached contract and was using the license in a way they disliked... but they're evil when they sue a smaller developer over trademark infringement? WHAT.

Companies do this all the time. Minecraft is huge. Especially for an independent game. From Bethesda's standpoint, Scrolls stands to become just as huge. If it does so, there is a very good chance that there will be confusion between the two games because of the fame and longevity that The Elder Scrolls has. Bethesda is doing what any other company in the same situation would do. Just because Mojang disagrees with Bethesda's logic does not mean there is a clear-cut bad guy and good guy here.

 

[Kakashi on crack]

Even though this means I will never play Skyrim, I will no longer support Bethesda in any way.

There's ways to play the game without supporting the company (and before someone reports me for suggesting that thing we aren't supposed to publically support, I was suggesting USED games. )

OT: Go for it *shrug* don't play what you don't agree with.