If you met God

[Akalistos]

I'm by no means a religious official or anything of the sort, but do believe in God and most of what Roman Catholicism preaches.

I can't... i just can't. The whole bible is full of hole and non-sense that it can't exist. I consider the bible like any of Lovecraft's novel. HOW CAN A COUPLE NEVER EVER HAD SEX THEIR ENTIRE LIFE? Why preach benevolence toward men than kill them for not believing in him. Why force people to arm another one when you forbid him. I can make page of that stuff.

To touch upon the sex thing, the number of people getting married as virgins is on the rise. Not by much, but it's definitely rising. And not all of us are religious zealots who murder "non-believers". Hell, a couple of my closest friends are atheists, and no problems have arisen because of it. Not attacking you, just pointing out why I can and do believe.

Even if virgin marriage are on the rise, it doesn't explain why Josef never had sex with Mary. But i'm listening to what you got. If you think you can turn me around, by all mean, give me your best shot.

 

[sjarri]

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[stone0042]

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I like you. I'm semi-religious, and annoyed at all the zealots making all of us out to be crazy. You're atheist, and annoyed at argumentative atheist attacking (wow, look at that alliteration) said religious zealots. We should get along nicely.

 

[wierdman51]

id ask why he made my friends ex girlfreind cheat on him, then break up with him for the boy, and then wwhen he asked for a sign that he was listening in front of his ex, make her be unable to breathe

 

[RootbeerJello]

Probably say something along the lines of "You know you're kind of enabling some serious douchebags down on earth right? You might wanna get on that." Then raid his fridge.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

I think that this is a major problem with the the forums on this site. If someone bashes a religion and openly calls people with faith low lives or retards, it's just business as usual. But when someone tries to defend one of these beliefs, thats when people should get offended. When's the last time someone has made a post bashing atheism just for the sake of not agreeing with it?

So, it ok to call other people names because to everyone else don't care? No, if you want to prove something to someone, give him facts, proofs, evidences. I'm atheist and anyone that said i'm wrong because i'm stupid didn't prove their point but only their own stupidity in the process. Insult is telling the other person he's right!

I won't call name to anyone that disagree with me. To me, near death experience is nothing but a small cerebral activity resembling dream. So if your brain isn't splatter on anything, you'll only meet the version of god you see in your mind... Until you return to the nothingness you came from!

Meh... belief in a creator deity isn't so far fetched when you come to think about it. I mean .. lets take the scientific viewpoint ... there once was a whole lot of nothing with a whole bunch of stuff, stuff exploded .... eventually creating the universe we know and love ... then things eventually lived in this universe (on Earth procaryotes abouty 4.2 billion years ago like viruses, then Eucaryotes 2.8 billion years ago ... like bacterium)

And eventually from all this something we will inevitably have either cold death (Big Freeze) .... or (my personal theory) the 'Big Crunch' where the energy from the big bang will eventually be offset by the gravitational pull of other celestial bodies which will eventually collaesce at a new universal central point again ....

You can say theres no 'God' but in the end you can't prove it ... isn't there a *chance* that a race of aliens from another Universe ago (from another Big Bang event previous) that managed to transcend age, and all energy potential to beable to recreate the Universe anew?

Surely that would be a 'creator deity' and there's always a *chance* it could be true Give n that the universe is as big as it is, and yet is comprised so full of wonders that to completely disregard the fact that our universe may simply be the creation of a super race that has transcended all physical dimensions to achieve absolutism of conciousness isn't *COMPLETELY* out of the question now is it?

Maybe God is a remnant of a once thriving alien race from the last universe who wanted to see if he/she could recreate the universe and try to recreate his/her people along with it ... so after 6.2 billion years we have .... us?

It would explain a whole lot of stuff to be honest.... and it makes a lot more sense to me then "Earth got lucky" ... especially when you take the geological history Earth, it's amazing anything was created here in the first place....

I mean for BILLIONS of years you had NOTHING and then BOOM you had something? To be frank, saying 'God did it' makes aloty of sense ....

 

[Aptspire]

the old 'Who are we?
Where did we come from?
Where are we headed?'

 

[stone0042]

I'm by no means a religious official or anything of the sort, but do believe in God and most of what Roman Catholicism preaches.

I can't... i just can't. The whole bible is full of hole and non-sense that it can't exist. I consider the bible like any of Lovecraft's novel. HOW CAN A COUPLE NEVER EVER HAD SEX THEIR ENTIRE LIFE? Why preach benevolence toward men than kill them for not believing in him. Why force people to arm another one when you forbid him. I can make page of that stuff.

To touch upon the sex thing, the number of people getting married as virgins is on the rise. Not by much, but it's definitely rising. And not all of us are religious zealots who murder "non-believers". Hell, a couple of my closest friends are atheists, and no problems have arisen because of it. Not attacking you, just pointing out why I can and do believe.

Even if virgin marriage are on the rise, it doesn't explain why Josef never had sex with Mary. But i'm listening to what you got. If you think you can turn me around, by all mean, give me your best shot.

I'm not trying to turn you around. To do so would likely be counter-intuitive and would serve only to frustrate the both of us. Very little good comes from debating religion over the internet.

 

[Seef]

"Hey god, what's a million years like for you?"
"Like one minute"
"What's a million dollars like to you?"
"Like a penny"
"Can you lend me a penny?"

 

[Tdc2182]

Why would I do that? It's what I would say and I'm not going to censor myself because you're too sensitive about your beliefs to get over a joke.

It like calling someone a n***er. You just dont do it. I dont give two shits if its a joke.

You want to know why people don't respect the religious community? Look in the mirror buddy, that's why.

I looked in the mirror. I have a sunburn. Still does not give you the right to insult. Also, have you heard how sarcasm doesnt work over the internet? Its all about inflexion of the voice.

Sure, what the others you quoted said was vulgar, get over it. Our beliefs and what we say has nothing to do with you and doesn't, and won't, affect your beliefs.

Well, when is clearly ment to be an offensive statement, I have every right to tell you to shut up. What you are saying to me right now tells me that you had every intent to attack. the Escapist is a place for intelligent discussion, if you want to troll go to 4chan or something.

So go believe in your god, I don't care, but the when you ask me to watch what I say or else I'll somehow offend you, that's where I draw the line.

Plus I never said anything about my preferences in God. I dont give a shit what religion you are bashing. It is just fucking annoying. I am not gonna let one of my fallback relaxation sites be full of Dbags.

I find it very ironic that someone who says things like "Well, when is clearly me[a]nt to be an offensive statement, I have every right to tell you to shut up. What you are saying to me right now tells me that you had every intent to attack. the Escapist is a place for intelligent discussion, if you want to troll go to 4chan or something." at the same time supports

Spoiler: posts like these

Oppose me? I don't care if you oppose me. I just can't stand smug idiots like yourself who think they're better than everyone else because they think they have it all figured out. Constantly insulting other people's beliefs while accusing the other side of doing the exact same thing. It's hypocritical, it's stupid, and you're just as bad if not worse than the people you're insulting.
You know, the kind that go into an internet forum with a bunch of people having fun with a hypothetical question and just shitting all over everything because they always have to get that smug last little word in.
Fuck you.

A bit hypocritical, no?

It's people like you who try to elect "blasphemy laws" to protect their little illusion.


I'll let this gentleman finish it off for me.

Yes, I agree with the guy that I quoted, because he was telling people to fuck off with the bashing of his faith. He didnt start it at all. He wasnt attacking their beliefs like you guys are to us. It is no secret that many of the Atheists on this site think they are infinetly smarter and better than us because we believe in a higher being. I actually have more respect for the ones that dont mind us at all than religious people. They dont care about it, and I am fine with that.

And you bring that point up, why dont I bring this up?

I'd crucify him.

that isnt even the worst one, that is just the first one I could find. Do you support this?

I dont support blasphemy laws other than dont kill and (to summarize) dont be a dick. So dont go putting bullshit words into my mouth. And that "gentlemen" is the exact thing I am angry about. Calling us crazy. I am not on the side of the religious extremists. He is more worse than most of them. I listen to the facts. I belive in evoulition, string theory, exc. I just have enough sense to think that we arent the greatest thing out there, and that no matter what happens, there basically has to have been some sort of God at some point, unless there was the repeating theory.

I havent attacked you once, you guys fucking started it. I am finishing it. And go ahead and respond, I refuse to read any more of your Bullshit.

 

[The Singularity]

I'd laugh. And point. And scream. Since he created incredibly cruel and monstrous people I don't think he would be a nice guy. And I'd just keep saying he wasn't real.

 

[Commissar Sae]

I would go insane after a severely failed Sanity check. Then it kinda depends on the God.

 

[brodie21]

i would give him a hug for inventing video games and then bitchslap him for inventing the wii...i probably wouldnt live long after that, so i would die knowing that i both hugged and bitchslapped god

 

[Contun]

I'd merely stand there motionless. If I met an all-powerful being who could determine everything and anything that could and would ever happen to me, I wouldn't do anything to upset him.

And guys, I realize that some of you are Atheists, and I respect that, but do you really have to bash the religious population of the Escapist? -.-;

 

[awsome117]

I would give him back the lemons and say "You make the lemonade"

 

[stone0042]

I would give him back the lemons and say "You make the lemonade"

A much more well spoken and humorous post than all those bitching about there shitty lives, and how it's all Gods fault

 

[Tdc2182]

I think you missed the point here. For starters, I wasn't being sarcastic, I'm dead serious. People like you are the reason people like me look down on certain groups of religious people. I have religious friends and I've said jokes along the lines of what I've posted here and they laughed because they're cool with it. People like you fly off the trigger into an unwarranted and unnecessary rage. You take yourself too seriously, lighten up.

There is your problem, I am not your friend, and neither is anybody else on this site. They may be aquaintances, or you may have made a good friend, but that was not directed towards any of them. I have given you the reason why you should control yourself. You are now just being a troll. I have been posting on these forums for over a year. I know when someone is just trying to get someone agravated. And you are the reason why I look down on certain atheists.

And if you want someone to lighten up, the cardinal rule is to not tell them anything along the lines of "lighten up". But I am sure you know that. And like I tell everyone when I get into this argument. Go ahead and reply, I have given you my point of view, and you failed hard at giving me your side, I wont read it. Try to maybe make the attempt to see my side next time. It might help.[/quote]

The whole "belief" thing bites back. What CAN you say? "You'll burn in hell!"? That's a moot point. "You're all dumb and god exists lol!"? Hardly an argument. Citing Stalin/Hitler and implying that atheism makes you a homicidal dictator?

I love it when people try to bring up this point. This has literally almost never happened on the Escapist. I honestly look for it every time. There is so much shit we can say. But I will paraphrase one of the creators South Park. "To me, religion is not near as rediculous as some of the things atheists belive in." Sorry to all atheist people I like around here. Just trying to make a point.

just keep it personal

Exactly the same advice I have been giving to all of you. "You dont say things you beleive ion, but we can say whatever the fuck we want"

 

[Angryman101]

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God, I can still smell the loathsome stench of smug asshole emanating from your post.
Yeah, you're being a douchebag, so I'm flaming you for it. There's nothing hypocritical about it. I don't care whether or not there's a god or if there isn't, I just care that I see a smarmy dick crapping over other people's beliefs because they think they're smarter and better than them.

You know, Attacking people doesn't prove point. What if atheists (like me) are right? ... Well you would die of body and soul. What if religious people were right? Some would chuckle wile other burn because they are douche. But all in all, Nobody will be able to prove anything by saying the other one is a ass. Think about it

Lincoln " I believe that everyone is equal. "
Douglas " No they are not and your a F***Ing Ass with your beard. "

View like that, who's the bigger douche?

I'll reiterate: I don't care whether or not there's a god. I don't care what other people believe. What I do care about is when somebody is being a smug little shit and not only feeling that they're better than people who do believe in a religion, but actively insult those people for their beliefs.
People choose different ways of living. Some people choose to live their lives according to a system of beliefs they agree with, some choose to live life loving the smell of their own farts and groundlessly feeling like they're better than other people.
If he has the right to criticize people for the way they live, hey, I think I can give it a shot in my own, special way: by telling him how huge of a pompous fuckhead he is.

 

[Cliff_m85]

If it were the Christian God I'd have to say "Sir, I can't respect you in any fashion. I can't morally stay here in Heaven so I must morally demand to go to Hell, since I cannot fathom staying in a location where so many are in paradise ignoring the torture of those who did minor infractions. Sir, if there is a Hell please send me to it so I can take the place of the only being that deserves unending torture....you."

But he doesn't exist so I'll never have that problem.

 

[Tdc2182]

I think that this is a major problem with the the forums on this site. If someone bashes a religion and openly calls people with faith low lives or retards, it's just business as usual. But when someone tries to defend one of these beliefs, thats when people should get offended. When's the last time someone has made a post bashing atheism just for the sake of not agreeing with it?

Give this kid a goddamned medal.