"I'm not gay, but..."

[Nickolai77]

Considering a lot of breastplates from the ancient world often included depictions of male abs's...this view to manliness has been around for thousands of years.

Strength, along with all the other warrior virtues are very useful in violent primitive society, but not nowadays at all. I think this is part of the problem of the masculine identity, it hasn't moved on from the past.

Those nice, hard, breastplate abs....

Sorry, where was I?

Oh yeah, the value of strength and aggression combined with a lack of real outlets for the two, certainly don't help much. Though considering how many of the macho cultures practiced, embraced, or even endorsed homosexual conduct (I say conduct because gay sex was sometimes okay when being gay still wasn't), maybe they just need to give in.

Or homosexuality could have been considered a manly thing? I think that's possible.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

Reminds me of this comment I once saw, mocking the people who say "no homo".

"Me and this guy made out for ten minutes, I said 'no homo' afterwards, so it's not gay."

 

[Sebenko]

Another gay topic?

Jesus guys, At the moment, this forum is more gay than me when I have a quiet weekend with my boyfriend.

Maybe the forum as a whole has some repressed feelings?

As much as I love talking about sex, I prefer to talk to attractive, real people about it (Not that there aren't some attractive escapists. Look at me [/inflated ego]).

 

[gary the red shirt]

ok so i know this is a bit off topic but here it goes. Im straight, I have never been turned on by the male form, but i do love it when my girl friend puts her strap on in my butt... just saying.

 

[Orange Monkey]

Another gay topic?

Jesus guys, At the moment, this forum is more gay than me when I have a quiet weekend with my boyfriend.

Maybe the forum as a whole has some repressed feelings?

As much as I love talking about sex, I prefer to talk to attractive, real people about it (Not that there aren't some attractive escapists. Look at me [/inflated ego]).

Why arn't there more gays guys like you in Malta? The ones we have here are all a bunch of brain dead vegetables with more glitter than skin >_< And they're useless at relationships.

 

[Sebenko]

Why arn't there more gays guys like you in Malta? The ones we have here are all a bunch of brain dead vegetables with more glitter than skin >_< And they're useless at relationships.

As far as I can tell, that's true of most gay guys here, too. I'm not a fan of the whole "camp gay" thing. That's a slight understatement.

Also, I hate rainbows. every gay related thing seems to have to have a rainbow on it. What sensible designer puts a rainbow on anything? They look terrible! You'd think we would realise that.

 

[Something Amyss]

Yeah, you can't really expect everything to change over night as it's a very slow change, but it's certainly progressing well. It's all just one step at a time.

Yeah. I'm kind of relieved to see a slow change is happening. Not to mention legal status recognitions, slow as they are to come, on top of the social ones. That Texas case from 2004 overturned sodomy laws, legal same sex marriages (and not that pansy "Civil Union" BS my state pulled)

It's not really a constraint so much as two guys who are not physically attracted to each other but are extremely good friends. A platonic type of love if you will and Bromance has always been acceptable.

If it was always acceptable, they wouldn't need to label it. The fact is, "bromance" resembles homosexuality in such a fashion that "bros" need to point out how not gay they are. The term itself seems oddly ironic, considering it's a play on "romance." "Bromances," "Man-Dates," And all those other silly terms are ways of distinguishing the straights in activities that are highly homo-erotic (at least in public perception).

Or homosexuality could have been considered a manly thing? I think that's possible.

I'm speaking as it relates to modern society, the guys who think being gay is explicitly NOT manly. That it's funny that they would worship at the altar of these homosexual cultures, whether or not it was considered "manly" then.

 

[EeveeElectro]

I wish guys were as comfortable about their sexuality as girls were. I think I've kissed more girls than guys and no one cares. We could all just have big orgy's and everything would be fine.

 

[deadxero]

Most men are as insecure as youre stereotypical annorexic (yeah that's spelled wrong) model. It's annoying as hell.

 

[silverhawk100]

I wish guys were as comfortable about their sexuality as girls were. I think I've kissed more girls than guys and no one cares. We could all just have big orgy's and everything would be fine.

And when we do, we're considered skeeves or horn dogs... yeah. Fix your perceptions first, then I'll get more comfortable.

 

[Hap2]

Sometimes it is the social stigma, sometimes it is to push off unwanted attention. I have done it for the latter reason because I'm ace, ergo not attracted sexually to anyone. I guess some people assume since I don't pursue or hit on women, that I must be homosexual. It is probably hard for some to fathom that I am not interested in anyone, as it is for me to understand what makes a person 'sexy', so it's no big deal, as long as people don't press the issue.

 

[Dr. Whiggs]

This is like the tenth thread on how gay everybody is in the last 12 hours. Why'd everything get so gay all of a sudden?

 

[Terminate421]

Unfortunatly we all go through that Bicurious phase....and yes it has happened to me. What am I now? HETEROsexual. Im straight, I like women, vaginas. Etc.

I will admit that I've fapped to a few things I shouldn't have.....but thats behind me (NOT A GAY JOKE) and I look forward to getting a girl friend when I go to college soon.

As for society, it seems like everyone takes their sexuality like its their life. I admit that I just did that but its an example, why do we do it anyway?

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

On the contrary I regularly say "If I was gay, I would". It's good to be open about these things.

I think it's got something to do with the want to be accepted. People have seen how the homosexual community are shunned and then realised they don't want to be treated that way. This leads to the ultra-male attitude that is common among communities where gay people are shunned.

Ironically, this ultra-male attitude often comes across as gay or is seen straight through and their ruse is called out.

 

[Flamezdudes]

A lot of the time I mess about with my friends and can pretend me gay by making... comments. We joke about. If somebody said I was Gay i wouldn't get hysterical about it and if they were referencing my friends and I then I would say we were joking.

 

[Hyrulian Hero]

Peraonally, I think the "no homo" phrase is more gay than anything I've heard preceed or follow it. Also, I am 1 of 5 people living in the house I currently rent a room in. I am the only heterosexual of the 5. It has not once bothered me and the other 4 people are not at all worse house-mates or companions because of it. We still have normal conversations, still game together, watch horror movies and eat meals together. And let me tell you, the two females of the group can cook some of the best damn food!

But that's all off-topic. I think people say no homo because they are so homophobic and set in their mind that being gay is equililent to being a social outcast or freak that they have to disown anyhing they say or do, even before they do it, that might possibly group them closer to the homosexual community. As others have said, it's not reasonable or right, in fact it's downright stupid, but it unfortunately won't stop anytime soon.

 

[Garrsus]

usually when some one says that it is because they just dont want people to get the wrong idea and so try to make sure, or they think some one else is gay and so are worried about the awkwardness.
i have witnessed both of these scenarios so don't deny that they happen.

Here's how I see it, its not so much a "fear of being different" as a fear of the stigma that goes along with being gay.

Firstly, if a girl thinks that a guy is gay, that guy is relegated to something along the lines of "the friend zone." If said guy is interested in that girl, that is not a zone he wants to be in.

Guys also have to think about their standing with other guys. If his male friends think he is gay, more often than not, they will act differently around him. It could be in little things, like avoiding certain conversation topics, or just all out excluding him from certain activities all together. Today's society is still not 100% accepting of gays, and as long as that is the case, there will be straight people who will not want to be thought of as gay.

words of wisdom.

 

[Orange Monkey]

Why arn't there more gays guys like you in Malta? The ones we have here are all a bunch of brain dead vegetables with more glitter than skin >_< And they're useless at relationships.

As far as I can tell, that's true of most gay guys here, too. I'm not a fan of the whole "camp gay" thing. That's a slight understatement.

Also, I hate rainbows. every gay related thing seems to have to have a rainbow on it. What sensible designer puts a rainbow on anything? They look terrible! You'd think we would realise that.

Yeah The whole ''limp-wristed fairy'' thing is a total turn-off.

I enjoy rainbows if they are actually in the sky after a thunder storm, but other than that your right.

I mean we're gay, we like MEN, not prancing lunatics who are more female than male and make me want to pull a Jason Voorhees. Yet most seem to think gay is synonymous with chick with a dick.

 

[silverhawk100]

Sometimes it is the social stigma, sometimes it is to push off unwanted attention. I have done it for the latter reason because I'm ace, ergo not attracted sexually to anyone. I guess some people assume since I don't pursue or hit on women, that I must be homosexual. It is probably hard for some to fathom that I am not interested in anyone, as it is for me to understand what makes a person 'sexy', so it's no big deal, as long as people don't press the issue.

Glad to see ace is catching on. I think it's a great way of unsterilizing the term 'asexuality' of which in one stroke ties it to sex (which it isn't) and puts it in an icky sterilized and detached form. Ace is so much better.

 

[Cazza]

Males worry to much about what each other think. As many believe being gay will make people around them think lower of them. Which is sad to think should a large part of socieity thinks that way.