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JoshFTL

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They should give them a life sentence to be served as soon as they reache the age of 18, thats as lineant as the sentence should be.
 

MattW456

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Think of all the shit they could cause and all the lives they could ruin in the 7 and 9 more years they would have left of freedom, also now in the UK life sentences aren't for life, they only last 25 years.
 

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Neonbob said:
Killed?
No.
...yes, it's shocking, yadda yadda.
But killing them is just a knee-jerk reaction.
There are so many better methods of punishment.
Like keeping them in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day, and when they are let out to walk the prison, no one else is around. (They did that to Robert Hanssen for being a double agent against the US government)
 

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MattW456 said:
Think of all the shit they could cause and all the lives they could ruin in the 7 and 9 more years they would have left of freedom, also now in the UK life sentences aren't for life, they only last 25 years.
Thats a good point, the only good for of punishment would be torture as death seems to quick a punishment and jail is getting slightly more not-as-bad as is was
 
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Neonbob said:
The Infamous Scamola said:
Neonbob said:
I think you missed it...that started quite a few posts back.
Yeah, I probably should edit that.
Well, you were kinda close.
I'm sure you'll get it next time.
Well, then there's the fact that nowadays it seems that between the time you start writing and the time you post another twenty people have already commented, especially on these kinda threads.
 
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Epitome said:
If not killed then what? If tehy are that fuclked up at that age they are little use to anybody. And whats the court gonna do? A few years of juvi or a slap on the wrist and a few shrink sessions that say dont do it again. no hold them up ase xamples to all those little shits and punish them properly give em 10-15 years or something. The only way they will leqar that their behaviour is unacceptable is to punish them for it!!
Dear god. Are you going to get rid of everyone that isn't of some use to anyone? Good luck with that.
I don't know how it is in the UK, but here you cannot punish children. Only correct them.
I'm sure I don't need to explain to you what happens with a kid when you throw him or her in jail for 15 years either, do I? They don't come out as decently functioning adults, I can tell you that. What you're doing is brush the problem away and make sure it comes back as a bigger one.
 

Nicragomi

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I know what/who they'll blame...

Blast those Video Games and their Virtual Violence!
 

MattW456

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The UK justice system is a complete and utter joke, some thugs who ran into an elderly mans house and beat him to death with lead pipes got 3 years. A man who killed a burglar who had broken into his house got life.
 

LockHeart

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God, this stirs up uncomfortable reminders of little Jamie Bulger...

These kids seriously need help.
 

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Neonbob said:
The Infamous Scamola said:
And knee-jerk reaction staaarts... now.
I think you missed it...that started quite a few posts back.
Circus Ascendant said:
Neonbob said:
Killed?
No.
...yes, it's shocking, yadda yadda.
But killing them is just a knee-jerk reaction.
There are so many better methods of punishment.
Like gonad electrocution torture.
Well, that could work, but what I was thinking should not be posted here.
Private message me, it was just the first idea that came to mind ;)
 

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Do it to them. See how they like it.

But seriously, why the hell would kids that age want to do that to their peers. I just don't get it. I would suggest taking them into care, as their parents are clearly not doing a good enough job caring for them, but I'm not sure that wouldn't screw them up even more.
 

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I'm from South Yorkshire... Barnsley to be exact and this is sickening, I know stuff like this goes on in other parts of the world, even other parts of England but never would I have thought to have seen this so close to home... we have some shit here I'll say that, we have idiot drunks I have to fight my way through every now and again in town, there's quite a few chavs here and there, but there not bad chavs there not evil, I'm friends with a lot of them and have grown up with them, but this I'd never expect some thing like this.
 

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The King And His Fool said:
Epitome said:
If not killed then what? If tehy are that fuclked up at that age they are little use to anybody. And whats the court gonna do? A few years of juvi or a slap on the wrist and a few shrink sessions that say dont do it again. no hold them up ase xamples to all those little shits and punish them properly give em 10-15 years or something. The only way they will leqar that their behaviour is unacceptable is to punish them for it!!
Dear god. Are you going to get rid of everyone that isn't of some use to anyone? Good luck with that.
I don't know how it is in the UK, but here you cannot punish children. Only correct them.
I'm sure I don't need to explain to you what happens with a kid when you throw him or her in jail for 15 years either, do I? They don't come out as decently functioning adults, I can tell you that. What you're doing is brush the problem away and make sure it comes back as a bigger one.
Well im more in favour of extermination with these kind of kids. Im not talking about removing the useless like some hitler clone, but kids like this. What use will they ever be, if they are unpunished they can do it again, if they are jailed liek you say they will just come out as better trained angry people,you think you can "fix" kids like this? Tie em to a stake and shoot them both live on tv, send a message. I know we shoudnt punish "children" but at this point you need to radically redraw the lines of childhood, for me they stop alot shorter than GBH and Rape. Children were protected under the law because of a percieved innocence and because they didnt commit crimes of this magnitude, these kids showed premeditation,repeated offenses, brutality, sexual offences not the kind of behaviour exhibited in regular children.
 

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I blame violent video games.
OT: I was in shock when I read this. What the fuck is wrong with kids today?
 

MattW456

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LockHeart said:
God, this stirs up uncomfortable reminders of little Jamie Bulger...

These kids seriously need help.
I just looked up the name and I wish I hadn't, every time I read a story like this my faith in humanity falls even further. We don't get more civilized as time goes by, freaks just think of even sicker ways to kill. To be honest the human race just digs itself into a deeper hole and soon it will be too late to do anything about it. Yahtzee is right People are Shit.