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MattW456

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MusicalFreedom said:
MattW456 said:
Also i'm pretty sure if a relative of yours was beaten and sexually abused when they were young you would want to see their attackers killed rather than given shitty therapy that doesn't help in the slightest.
don't try to tell me what I would and wouldn't think

and I would love to see how therapy doesn't work

You sir are being a fuckhead. Damn do gooders like you are part of the reason society is falling apart around us, some people are evil, sick and wrong in the head. That's just the way they are, these kids have had practically a decade of abuse from their own parents (probably) a bunch of idiots with degrees asking them "how does that make you feel" and giving them medication is not going to counteract their years of abuse. In a way even the attackers are victims, victims of the vicious circle that is slowly engulfing more and more people every day.
 

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I'd have to say these kids are assosiapaths (spelling?), they have no moral compas and they will stay like this there whole life, continuing to kill (or injur) once they get out.

The only way, in my opinion, to stop people like this is a short drop and a sudden stop. (cookie to the first one who know what im talking about)
 

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Is it a bad sign that stuff like this no longer shocks me?
No. I wasn't really shocked either. I did think it was terrible though.
 

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Supreme Unleaded said:
I'd have to say these kids are assosiapaths (spelling?), they have no moral compas and they will stay like this there whole life, continuing to kill (or injur) once they get out.

The only way, in my opinion, to stop people like this is a short drop and a sudden stop. (cookie to the first one who know what im talking about)
Yes, hang them, i agree with you. I may be entirely wrong but the first time i heard that phrase was on pirates of the caribbean.
 

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Killed?
No.
...yes, it's shocking, yadda yadda.
But killing them is just a knee-jerk reaction.
There are so many better methods of punishment.
I'm not condoning the death penalty, but what else do you do? In order for a person to do this kind of damage, they must be seriously screwed up in some way -- perhaps their upbringing, or a complete lack of conscience. Whatever the case, what punishment would be enough to deter them and reform them into a normal person again? Sticking them in a prison for 25 years usually doesn't do the trick, as we've seen thousands of times with our penal system. Extensive therapy, constant monitoring, keeping them locked away for the rest of their life -- what can be done to fix them, and if nothing can be done, why keep them around as both a risk to the public and a drain on the country's resources?

Food for thought.
 

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Killed? They're children. Do you know why the saying goes kids can be so cruel? Because their moral compass is broken. It's not that they don't know right from wrong, it's that they don't care.

These children need counselling and their parents need to be locked up or something similar. Culling them from the earth like cattle isn't right, the government is supposed to be above such things.
 

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12 year olds drinking and having sex is fairly new, go back a few years and it was almost unheard of. And yes lock them up put them on meds, if they show improvement give them another chance, if nothing. drop them in the middle of the atlantic, cus theyre no use to anyone
okay, while children may have gotten worse, people have always complained about how kids used to be so much better. people always long for the "good old days", even when those good old days didn't exist.

I'd attribute modern society feeling worse due to increased media presence and ramped-up sensationalism.
 

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committing greivous bodily harm on two other boys of the same age and forcing them to perform sexual acts on each other. Humanity never fails to reach new lows, in my opinion these boys should be killed, what is the world coming to?
Religion enduced stupidity allowing for this to happen. people under 14 deserve no free will because they dont make competent decisions. ever.
 

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in the UK, there is no death penalty, or they would not be part of the EU

and Jesus, they're only kids, don't kill them
"Oh, look, this teenage just stabbed and raped a young girl, Oh, but don't kill him, no! He's only a child."

Sorry but this kinda thing pisses me off, if those kids have the... I don't know what, but can actually harm other people that way, and potentially destroy their lives, why the hell should they deserve to live?

If those kids who got hurt were your brother, or you were their father/mother, think how you'd feel.
No seriously, just think about it, and tell me you wouldn't want their attackers to die.
 

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Yay for Broken Britain I guess. Not sure what else to say.

Other than I think people here should steer away from the "zomg outrage! bring back death penalty!1!!!one!! Kill them!" approach.
 

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Whoa.. Thats beyond messed up. Those kids who caused the injuries must be mentally disturbed because no regular little kid would do this type of thing. Thats.. fu*ked up...
 

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Children getting slowly worse means the future of the earth is getting slowly worse, fuckheads like this will continue to breed and their offspring will be just as bad or worse because of their lack of parenting. Eventually more people will be like this than are not. Rape, murder, violence and abuse will become the norm and civilized society will die.
 

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MattW456 said:
You sir are being a fuckhead. Damn do gooders like you are part of the reason society is falling apart around us, some people are evil, sick and wrong in the head. That's just the way they are, these kids have had practically a decade of abuse from their own parents (probably) a bunch of idiots with degrees asking them "how does that make you feel" and giving them medication is not going to counteract their years of abuse. In a way even the attackers are victims, victims of the vicious circle that is slowly engulfing more and more people every day.
ah yes, I'm a fuckhead for not wanting to kill a child.

I never said that they would be completely cured, but if any good can be done, then it must be done.

edit: fuck this thread. people are horrible
 
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ChromeAlchemist said:
Killed? They're children. Do you know why the saying goes kids can be so cruel? Because their moral compass is broken. It's not that they don't know right from wrong, it's that they don't care.

These children need counselling and their parents need to be locked up or something similar. Culling them from the earth like cattle isn't right, the government is supposed to be above such things.
Yeah but their moral compass is screwed more than most, supposedly your mind stops developing around the ages 12-16 (start of puberty) so they would need some rapid therapy treatment to reverse them, and the fact they performed the act has scarred them, people forget they were there, they saw the blood and pain and they continued, i cant even begin to imagine how fucked up inside you must be to do that.
 

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I don't want to kill children but I just think truly messed up people should be killed. Although I may have typed a bit hastily, therapy should be tried out, i'm sure some of the sick people can be helped. After all most of these attacks occur because the children committing them have never been taught any better.
 

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Lock the little bastards away.

You only need to look at this thread to see why society has gone down the toilet. Just read some of this bleeding heart crap. Well done guys you're getting what you want, never mind if stuff like this goes on as long as we're nice to everyone and they all get included. Doesn't matter that it's at the expense of decent people on the whole. But screw them, eh?
 

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Shit happens. In America they go shooting up schools to Britain is still ahead of the game.
 

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MattW456 said:
Supreme Unleaded said:
I'd have to say these kids are assosiapaths (spelling?), they have no moral compas and they will stay like this there whole life, continuing to kill (or injur) once they get out.

The only way, in my opinion, to stop people like this is a short drop and a sudden stop. (cookie to the first one who know what im talking about)
Yes, hang them, i agree with you. I may be entirely wrong but the first time i heard that phrase was on pirates of the caribbean.
You my friend deserve a cookie for the deadly reference, all i needed was the Hanged thing, the movie reference was irrelavent since the phrase has been around for a LONG time.


Just remeber, the dark side has cookies.