Damn, just the thought that they'd do something like this is really moving. My heart goes out to those men.
Maybe you shouldn't be so fucking hostile. Forgive me for wanting nuclear power to have ridiculous standards. The consequences of a bad accident with a nuclear plant are much higher than those with other power. In case you missed it in your hate-filled episode of mouth diarrhea, I like nuclear power, and want it to continue to be used, but japan has been hit by huge quakes before, and will be again, and if we want nuclear power to be safe, then we need to find a way to make the reactor able to withstand a 9.2, or greater, or a cat 5 tornado, or a cat 5 hurricane, if we are going to build them in major population centers that experience these types of disasters. I'm not saying we should shut-down nuclear power plants, I'm saying that, looking to the future, we need to build them so they are nearly indestructible.gim73 said:It's precisely this sort of knee jerk reactionism that keeps us from progressing as a species. Do you have any idea how much carbon dioxide and other toxins are put into the atmosphere every day just to power our civilization? The number of lives lost every year due to coal plant accidents exceeds the total number of fatalities due to nuclear power in all of it's 55 years of operation. Period. We are not 'playing around' with nuclear power. The next time that you wonder why a nuclear power plant can't withstand an 8.9 earthquake and a 30 foot tall wall of water, you should also ask why it can't withstand a direct assault by a comet, or a missile barrage. The nuclear industry has some of the most restrictive safety guidelines of ANY industry. Do we require clorine gas plants to be able to withstand an 8.2 earthquake? Before you start pointing fingers, look at how many earthquakes hit that area since the plant was built, and it's lack of catastrophic failure before 'the big one'. Lot's of lives have already been lost in this tragedy. Fire fighters know every day that eventually the job might catch up with them. They know now that this action will keep the area habitable for the future and save lives.spartan231490 said:Vive le risistance!
In all seriousness, these are brave men that deserve to be remembered, I just hope that humanity learns from this disaster(among others) and we stop playing around with nuclear power. If we are going to continue to use, and eventually even rely on nuclear power than we need to start thinking about how these power plants react to the unexpected, not just saying how they're safe as long as everything goes well. I'm not sure if it was Katrina or not, but i remember how that year there was a lot of concern that one of the hurricanes would cause a nuclear plant to melt-down. If we are going to rely on nuclear reactors in the future, we need to learn how to protect them from natural disasters, even the ones that are incredibly rare, or powerful.
Any way, my prayers go out to these men and their families, I just hope they're deaths aren't meaningless.
That map = Completely Debunked.GrimHeaper said:The Japanese are viewed as patriotic generally.Spot1990 said:A lot of armchair anthropologists in this thread. These men are doing an incredibly brave thing, not because they're Japanese, because they are brave. "People are not simple. They cannot be summarized for easy reference..."
The Japanese are not all honourable and deeply spiritual. The Irish are not all drunks and poets. Americans aren't all gun toting rednecks. They're not doing it because they're honour bound by their culture. They're doing it because they're good and they're courageous and they don't want to see shitloads of people die.
Though it isn't true for all of their people.
They however are sacrificing themselves for their country and many others which is admirable and regardless of your country you should feel something for them.
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I certainly hope this isn't truly the case.
It's one of the reasons they are working on them...jumb said:But it's Japan!? Don't they have robots to do this sort of thing?
The Lost Big Boss said:That is nice to know, I thought that might be a worst case scenario or something.GrimHeaper said:The Japanese are viewed as patriotic generally.Spot1990 said:A lot of armchair anthropologists in this thread. These men are doing an incredibly brave thing, not because they're Japanese, because they are brave. "People are not simple. They cannot be summarized for easy reference..."
The Japanese are not all honourable and deeply spiritual. The Irish are not all drunks and poets. Americans aren't all gun toting rednecks. They're not doing it because they're honour bound by their culture. They're doing it because they're good and they're courageous and they don't want to see shitloads of people die.
Though it isn't true for all of their people.
They however are sacrificing themselves for their country and many others which is admirable and regardless of your country you should feel something for them.
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I certainly hope this isn't truly the case.
Can you confirm the source that proved it was wrong please.
Closure is important for this kind of thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1Hl1a3hmmMInterAirplay said:Not that I'm surprised, but fucking source please. That sort of shit is disgraceful, American media seems to be on a quest to make the rest of the world think it's insane. Anywhere else these two would have been fired.00slash00 said:recently glen beck and rush limbaugh have been making fun of the situation in japan, mocking the people there and saying they made god angry.
Goddammit, I was really trying. I read the comments before and held it in. I did not cry.fare777 said:They call it a suicide mission. Firefighters... PROVE THEM WRONG!
Apparently that map is a hoax [http://nuclearfissionary.com/2011/03/15/beware-the-fake-fallout-map/].GrimHeaper said:![]()
I certainly hope this isn't truly the case.