Japanese Fire Fighters tell families "We won't be coming home"

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AceAngel

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Swollen Goat said:
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Some of you people don't deserve to live
Because off-color jokes are unforgivable, but considering someone unworthy of life is cool. Your righteous anger would've been more effective if you'd have skipped this part.
Yes, maybe I was hasty in my words, should I apologize? Maybe I should, maybe I shouldn't, who knows, but if my whole sentence was quoted, you'll see exactly what I mean.

Some of you people don't deserve to live, some of you people should be taking the places of these guys.
Take it however you want, but these two go together.

Making underhanded comments of "...it's worthless, they're throwing their lives away..." and "...they have robots..." is extremely uncalled for. Yes, I don't have right to say if a person should live or die, but considering these Men are doing what many of us imagine makes one a Man, making light of the situation isn't necessary, and call me a bigot and close-minded if you will...these guys have more worth at this time then anyone of us on this forum, including me, and if I could take a single persons place, I would.
 

Jabberwock xeno

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Even with radation suits?

It's fucking 2011! we've known about how harmful this shit is for like 70 years right?

Argh, damn it.

These guys have won my respect...



Wait.

This is fucking japan! Why can't we send in remote control robots! Even some kid in a garage can build something to do this inetead of people, and japan is the world leader of this tech!
 

theheroofaction

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Facing a danger that has already claimed lives these men, fighting a menace of the worst kind, one they can't see. These are truly the type of people we can only dream of being.
 

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Honestly they have bigger balls then I ever will. These guys better have a funeral with fighter jets going over head, hookers, booze, a 41 gun salute(Twice they normal number) and fire works. Good luck to them, I hope it works out with no lose of life.
 

Mr.PlanetEater

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GrimHeaper said:
Spot1990 said:
A lot of armchair anthropologists in this thread. These men are doing an incredibly brave thing, not because they're Japanese, because they are brave. "People are not simple. They cannot be summarized for easy reference..."

The Japanese are not all honourable and deeply spiritual. The Irish are not all drunks and poets. Americans aren't all gun toting rednecks. They're not doing it because they're honour bound by their culture. They're doing it because they're good and they're courageous and they don't want to see shitloads of people die.
The Japanese are viewed as patriotic generally.
Though it isn't true for all of their people.
They however are sacrificing themselves for their country and many others which is admirable and regardless of your country you should feel something for them.

I certainly hope this isn't truly the case.
I agree if that's the case then everyone in the western coast of America, and parts of Canada is completely boned and will die. Of course though they use RAD's which are grossly inaccurate and haven't been used to measure radiation for a long time, so that number could very well be drastically smaller.
 

kypsilon

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I recently wrote to one of my friends in Japan who was in Tokyo when the earthquake hit and she wrote a very particular line to me in which she said, "We have to prevent the radiation from effecting the entire world." This is the mindset of someone who is in no way related to the nuclear dilemma as seen on the news. These people will do everything they can to save the world, because only they can...even if that might not necessarily be true, they will take the burden up for the rest of us.

I hope their sacrifice is worth it...and I hope their pride won't stop them from allowing the rest of us to help them when it becomes time for us to do so.
 

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I wish I had the honor of standing with them.

Nothing but respect and admiration for these courageous volunteers, giving their lives for our future. There's nothing anyone can do with their lives that is more meaningful than to sacrifice it for others.
 

Exocet

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Like the poor young men who had to shovel radioactive debris at Tchernobyl,I have nothing but respect for these men.
Though you stand thousands of kilometers away,you will not be forgotten.Not by history,not by your families.
 

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Tdc2182 said:
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Actually the great tragedy is the scare tactics and straight up lying most of the foreign news is reporting, foreign to me anyway - I live in Tokyo. No no one is being sent to die, there is no risk of the reactors blowing up (not that kind of a reactor). The problem is rotating shift while keeping the workers exposed to less than 100mSv at a time, (thats the amount the human body safely flushes away with no ill effect). The international standard for "averting major nuclear escalation: 500 mSv" -the pubs are available. Japan has its own limits of 250 mSv total, and anyone exposure to more than 100 mSv/hour is not allowed back. So no, no one is dieing or being sent to their deaths. Is it a bad situation, yes, but so is trapped coal miners and all other activities designed to provide you a better life. So far no one has died from trying to stop a meltdown (which does not throw fallout into the air or other such nonsense) and more poeple have died making iphones than in these rescue efforts.

TL;DR News is lying to you.
Many people died during nuclear meltdowns.

There is a whole statue made for the fire fighters who died trying to fix the Nuclear power plant in Chernobyl.
Chernoyl is a special case, basically the Russians built, with very bad design and cut corners of said bad design, a graphite core reactor. When exposed to that troublesome thing called air it explodes. Elsewise no one has died from nuclear meltdowns.

3 Mile.. still running and providing power
 

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Sorry guys, this isn't Mass Effect. They will die.

(Of all the countries in the world it had to be Japan? Japan is one of the six I care about!)
 

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Mcupobob" post="18.271533.10458108 said:
These guys better have a funeral with fighter jets going over head, hookers, booze, a 41 gun salute(Twice they normal number) and fire works.quote]
I know this isn't the issue, but, I've never heard of a 20.5 gun salute.
 

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theheroofaction said:
These are truly the type of people we can only dream of being.
No, anyone and everyone can be like this, even if few of us will be faced with decisions of such obviously dire consequences.

These men aren't doing this to be heroes, they are doing it because its right. If everyone strove to be ethical, being a hero would simply be a matter of circumstance.