Kansas woman shoots African elephant with bow, then leaves it to die

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I don't see what the point is. So she killed it with an arrow...no she hit it with an arrow and the elephant died of the wound. That's like saying you trip one and fall and die, so...the thing that tripped you would be the thing that killed you? A rock killed you? Sad.

On topic, I think this situation is stupid for another reason, it's no feat at all, how about I go right up to it and cut it with a steak knife maybe 3 times let it bleed to death. So I can say I killed an elephant with a steak knife? Stupid woman, do something that actually warrants some praise.
 

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This amused me.

The reasoning for doing this is all over the internet, and even outside it. Why you cant see it surprises me.
I'm with the other guy. Enlighten me why the death of a single elephant rates more moral outrage than the death of any number of humans within 50 miles of your house (probably).
Humans are the only known animals to kill for no reason or sometimes fun.
Wrong
You know just saying wrong about something doesnt make you right. Out of curiousity, what do you have to base what you say off of? The Lion King, when Mufasa was killed and Scar enjoyed it?

I can say that the only creatures that have sex for enjoyment are humans, seahorses, and dolphins. Enjoy saying wrong about that too.

Oh, and dont say dogs. They do it to show their dominance, similar to many other animals. Dominance also applies to animals killing each other.
Im not going to argue that animals dont enjoy killing each other, there has to be some aspect to enjoying it to keep doing it but killing other animals is a pain in the ass for most, and it takes a significat investment of energy and effort and risk so most animals cant aford to just do it for pleasure, they have to do it to eat. Humans however have made killing a simple point and click proccess which is so easy anyone, of any age can do it casualy as long as they can sit still for a bit
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Audemas said:
Agayek said:
Computer-Noob said:
This amused me.

The reasoning for doing this is all over the internet, and even outside it. Why you cant see it surprises me.
I'm with the other guy. Enlighten me why the death of a single elephant rates more moral outrage than the death of any number of humans within 50 miles of your house (probably).
Humans are the only known animals to kill for no reason or sometimes fun.
Wrong
I'd like to see your proof saying other wise.
 

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Most animals shot with a bow bleed out. There is nothing remarkable about that. It takes real guts to shoot one from 12 yards, it could have trampled her easily before it died.
That's not true... If you have a powerful enough draw-strength and have good aim it is pretty easy to pierce the heart and lungs for many animals, such as deer, fowl, wild hogs, etc.

As a bowhunter, I am amazed at such a kill, yet ashamed at her for killing for only sport.

I absolutely DESPISE sport-hunters. Anyone who kills an animal for any reason other than killing an animal should be hunted themselves. Whenever I hunt, I make sure that it's an animal that I can eat. Hunting and killing an animal, then not giving the animal its respect in death by making sure that its body is put to good use is despicable. I also hate bow-fishers and sport-fishers who catch things like sharks and rays when odds are they're just going to end up throwing them away or turned into cat-food.

As I said before... people like her aren't real hunters... they're murderers.
 

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Computer-Noob said:
Internet Kraken said:
Audemas said:
Agayek said:
Computer-Noob said:
This amused me.

The reasoning for doing this is all over the internet, and even outside it. Why you cant see it surprises me.
I'm with the other guy. Enlighten me why the death of a single elephant rates more moral outrage than the death of any number of humans within 50 miles of your house (probably).
Humans are the only known animals to kill for no reason or sometimes fun.
Wrong
You know just saying wrong about something doesnt make you right. Out of curiousity, what do you have to base what you say off of? The Lion King, when Mufasa was killed and Scar enjoyed it?

I can say that the only creatures that have sex for enjoyment are humans, seahorses, and dolphins. Enjoy saying wrong about that too.

Oh, and dont say dogs. They do it to show their dominance, similar to many other animals. Dominance also applies to animals killing each other.

Dolphins butcher other animals, like porpoise, for no reason. They alsp fight amongst themselves often.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Dolphins butcher other animals, like porpoise, for no reason. They alsp fight amongst themselves often.
Not to be gross or immature or anything, but I've also heard that dolphins are the only animals besides humans that rape. Is that true?
 

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OH NO THE POOR ELEPHANT

Seriously, I'm sick of these stories. Why do people care about a fucking elephant more than their own species?

This is not news.
because there are 6 billion of our nasty asses and we tend to be overly willing to kill off everything else just to watch it die
You say that as if animals aren't supposed to kill each other.

Also these elephants are overpopulated, so her killing it helps the rest of the species. Plus they probably utilized the corpse of the beast after it had died.

So excuse me for not thinking this woman is a horrible entity of evil.
the only reason the elephants are over populated is because humans have vastly reduced the area they can roam, I tend the find the most amusing thing ever is when the hunter gets injured or killed by the species hes (or shes) trying to kill
So what's your point? The species is still overpopulated.
our species is more over populated
Again, what's your point?

Also our species is not overpopulated. Certain areas of the globe are overpopulated, but not the entire species.
there are 6 billion of us and we show no signs of slowing down in growth, you prove to me that we arnt already over populated
The fact that we aren't slowing down in growth means we are not overpopulated.

We could become overpopulated. Again, some parts of the world already are.

What's your point? What does humans being overpopulated have to do with this?
the point is you keep saying that the elephants need to be culled to avoid over population, my point is that if we didnt claim so much area because we are over populated then that argument would be totaly void and as it is I doubt its validity considering that they are making money off each elephant killed so they probably arnt really looking out for the species best interests, altho granted Ill bet they do help reduce poaching
I'm not saying she's doing this for the greater good.

I'm just saying that what she did is not a problem, and we shouldn't say she's a murderous psychopath because of it.

You are all to quick to judge people.
 

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SharPhoe said:
Internet Kraken said:
Dolphins butcher other animals, like porpoise, for no reason. They alsp fight amongst themselves often.
Not to be gross or immature or anything, but I've also heard that dolphins are the only animals besides humans that rape. Is that true?
Dolphins aren't the only animals that do that. Many animals, like lions, kill a females offspring so that they can have sex with them.
 

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Audemas said:
Internet Kraken said:
Audemas said:
Agayek said:
Computer-Noob said:
This amused me.

The reasoning for doing this is all over the internet, and even outside it. Why you cant see it surprises me.
I'm with the other guy. Enlighten me why the death of a single elephant rates more moral outrage than the death of any number of humans within 50 miles of your house (probably).
Humans are the only known animals to kill for no reason or sometimes fun.
Wrong
I'd like to see your proof saying other wise.
The behavior of dolphins towards animals such as porpoise.
 

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Computer-Noob said:
Internet Kraken said:
Computer-Noob said:
Internet Kraken said:
Computer-Noob said:
Agayek said:
Computer-Noob said:
This amused me.

The reasoning for doing this is all over the internet, and even outside it. Why you cant see it surprises me.
I'm with the other guy. Enlighten me why the death of a single elephant rates more moral outrage than the death of any number of humans within 50 miles of your house (probably).
It doesnt. Its just that the woman left the animal to suffer, and she just decided to kill it because she wanted to. And she enjoyed just killing it, not hunting it because she needed to to survive, and probably not because she liked elephant meat in particular. (I say this in case you ask why we bother having any food other than just what we need to survive)
Most, but are all of these most included in the regular household bugs that people kill? That I kill? I can recall moths, spiders, and ants. All of which I make sure are dead before I either flush them or throw them out into the garbage, assuming I dont save them instead.

Oh, and for your own satisfaction, most people find an elephant much more adorable than an insect. But most of the time, when you kill a bug, the death is near-instantaneous. Once again, the animal suffered in the night. But obvisously, once again, you dont care.
Wrong. Most bugs are resistant to what we consider to be a fatal blow.
Ok, but are all of the household bugs that we kill included in this "most"? I can at least speak for myself and say that I go out of my way to make a quick, clean kill, assuming I dont free any bugs I find in my house, which so far, has only been ants, moths, and spiders.
Next time you crush an ant, look at it. It will most likely still be alive, squirming in pain as a pile of broken exoskeleton.

Same goes for moths and spiders. Also just because they're not moving, it does not mean they are dead. You have merely crippled them.
 

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OH NO THE POOR ELEPHANT

Seriously, I'm sick of these stories. Why do people care about a fucking elephant more than their own species?

This is not news.
because there are 6 billion of our nasty asses and we tend to be overly willing to kill off everything else just to watch it die
You say that as if animals aren't supposed to kill each other.

Also these elephants are overpopulated, so her killing it helps the rest of the species. Plus they probably utilized the corpse of the beast after it had died.

So excuse me for not thinking this woman is a horrible entity of evil.
the only reason the elephants are over populated is because humans have vastly reduced the area they can roam, I tend the find the most amusing thing ever is when the hunter gets injured or killed by the species hes (or shes) trying to kill
So what's your point? The species is still overpopulated.
our species is more over populated
Again, what's your point?

Also our species is not overpopulated. Certain areas of the globe are overpopulated, but not the entire species.
there are 6 billion of us and we show no signs of slowing down in growth, you prove to me that we arnt already over populated
The fact that we aren't slowing down in growth means we are not overpopulated.

We could become overpopulated. Again, some parts of the world already are.

What's your point? What does humans being overpopulated have to do with this?
the point is you keep saying that the elephants need to be culled to avoid over population, my point is that if we didnt claim so much area because we are over populated then that argument would be totaly void and as it is I doubt its validity considering that they are making money off each elephant killed so they probably arnt really looking out for the species best interests, altho granted Ill bet they do help reduce poaching
I'm not saying she's doing this for the greater good.

I'm just saying that what she did is not a problem, and we shouldn't say she's a murderous psychopath because of it.

You are all to quick to judge people.
Im not saying shes a murderous psychopath, Im saying shes an ass
 

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Internet Kraken said:
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Dolphins butcher other animals, like porpoise, for no reason. They alsp fight amongst themselves often.
Not to be gross or immature or anything, but I've also heard that dolphins are the only animals besides humans that rape. Is that true?
Dolphins aren't the only animals that do that. Many animals, like lions, kill a females offspring so that they can have sex with them.
...With the females or the offspring?
 

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Im not saying shes a murderous psychopath, Im saying shes an ass
Well personally I don't think she's an ass. But I guess that's your opinion.

I just hate how people judge others over one thing.
 

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SharPhoe said:
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SharPhoe said:
Internet Kraken said:
Dolphins butcher other animals, like porpoise, for no reason. They alsp fight amongst themselves often.
Not to be gross or immature or anything, but I've also heard that dolphins are the only animals besides humans that rape. Is that true?
Dolphins aren't the only animals that do that. Many animals, like lions, kill a females offspring so that they can have sex with them.
...With the females or the offspring?
Maybe I said that wrong.

They kill the children of a female. That way, the female will have sex with them because it no longer has children to raise.
 

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They kill the children of a female. That way, the female will have sex with them because it no longer has children to raise.
Thanks for clearing that up. That could've been really sickening otherwise.
 

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Im not saying shes a murderous psychopath, Im saying shes an ass
Well personally I don't think she's an ass. But I guess that's your opinion.

I just hate how people judge others over one thing.
its not a simple thing like accidently cutting someone off in traffic or taking the last wii at best buy or something, its killing an already endangered species because someone bet her too do it, I dont care if its legal or whatever, its an ass thing to do no matter what the situation
 

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Worgen said:
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Im not saying shes a murderous psychopath, Im saying shes an ass
Well personally I don't think she's an ass. But I guess that's your opinion.

I just hate how people judge others over one thing.
its not a simple thing like accidently cutting someone off in traffic or taking the last wii at best buy or something, its killing an already endangered species because someone bet her too do it, I dont care if its legal or whatever, its an ass thing to do no matter what the situation
The species isn't endangered.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Internet Kraken said:
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Worgen said:
Im not saying shes a murderous psychopath, Im saying shes an ass
Well personally I don't think she's an ass. But I guess that's your opinion.

I just hate how people judge others over one thing.
its not a simple thing like accidently cutting someone off in traffic or taking the last wii at best buy or something, its killing an already endangered species because someone bet her too do it, I dont care if its legal or whatever, its an ass thing to do no matter what the situation
The species isn't endangered.
http://ecos.fws.gov/tess_public/SpeciesReport.do
 

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Worgen said:
Internet Kraken said:
Worgen said:
Internet Kraken said:
Worgen said:
Im not saying shes a murderous psychopath, Im saying shes an ass
Well personally I don't think she's an ass. But I guess that's your opinion.

I just hate how people judge others over one thing.
its not a simple thing like accidently cutting someone off in traffic or taking the last wii at best buy or something, its killing an already endangered species because someone bet her too do it, I dont care if its legal or whatever, its an ass thing to do no matter what the situation
The species isn't endangered.
http://ecos.fws.gov/tess_public/SpeciesReport.do
Is it the same species? I'm not entirely familiar with elephants in that region. I couldn't find what species it was in the article.

Still, it doesn't matter. Again, it's just a fucking elephant.