Kansas woman shoots African elephant with bow, then leaves it to die

[Audemas]

This amused me.

The reasoning for doing this is all over the internet, and even outside it. Why you cant see it surprises me.

I'm with the other guy. Enlighten me why the death of a single elephant rates more moral outrage than the death of any number of humans within 50 miles of your house (probably).

Humans are the only known animals to kill for no reason or sometimes fun. I've never heard of an animal that kills their own kind over stupid things but I have heard of humans going to places where other humans are and shooting them because that person's life is fucked up.

If you're going to be outraged about anything, it shouldn't be that she killed an elephant rather how she killed it. She shot it with one arrow, left for an entire day, and came back to claim her prized kill. The fact that she let it die from bleeding out should be considered inhumane. While there are probably no laws against animal cruelty in Zimbabwe, people in countries with these laws should view it as animal cruelty. The ASPCA euthanize a hell of a lot animals every year but they do it in a humane and quick way. Imagine instead of doing what the ASPCA does now, they just round up the stray animals and stab them once with a knife and walk away. She basically did the same thing and yes I understand that there are too many elephants and they cause damage to homes and sometimes people, so hunt them when you have to but do it in a way that is more humane that what she did.

 

[lava_lamp]

thats just sick

 

[Ninonybox_v1legacy]

great job for her downing it with a bow.....but sham on her for pussing out half way and leaveing it to die i mean GROW SOME BALLS (or grow your pubs abit since your female, i don't care) and finish the job.

 

[hungoverbear]

ok think about it, she shot it at near dark, and by the time the elephant dropped it was night out. Do any of you guys know what africa is like at night?? very very very very dangerous! so no wonder she waited till morning. But hey kudos to her for such a big achievement, that took alot of strength and guts to accomplish such a feet. Oh and animal rights activists can kiss my shiny metal ass.

 

[Internet Kraken]

OH NO THE POOR ELEPHANT

Seriously, I'm sick of these stories. Why do people care about a fucking elephant more than their own species?

This is not news.

because there are 6 billion of our nasty asses and we tend to be overly willing to kill off everything else just to watch it die

You say that as if animals aren't supposed to kill each other.

Also these elephants are overpopulated, so her killing it helps the rest of the species. Plus they probably utilized the corpse of the beast after it had died.

So excuse me for not thinking this woman is a horrible entity of evil.

the only reason the elephants are over populated is because humans have vastly reduced the area they can roam, I tend the find the most amusing thing ever is when the hunter gets injured or killed by the species hes (or shes) trying to kill

So what's your point? The species is still overpopulated.

our species is more over populated

Again, what's your point?

Also our species is not overpopulated. Certain areas of the globe are overpopulated, but not the entire species.

there are 6 billion of us and we show no signs of slowing down in growth, you prove to me that we arnt already over populated

The fact that we aren't slowing down in growth means we are not overpopulated.

We could become overpopulated. Again, some parts of the world already are.

What's your point? What does humans being overpopulated have to do with this?

 

[Internet Kraken]

This amused me.

The reasoning for doing this is all over the internet, and even outside it. Why you cant see it surprises me.

I'm with the other guy. Enlighten me why the death of a single elephant rates more moral outrage than the death of any number of humans within 50 miles of your house (probably).

Humans are the only known animals to kill for no reason or sometimes fun.

Wrong

 

[Computer-Noob]

This amused me.

The reasoning for doing this is all over the internet, and even outside it. Why you cant see it surprises me.

I'm with the other guy. Enlighten me why the death of a single elephant rates more moral outrage than the death of any number of humans within 50 miles of your house (probably).

It doesnt. Its just that the woman left the animal to suffer, and she just decided to kill it because she wanted to. And she enjoyed just killing it, not hunting it because she needed to to survive, and probably not because she liked elephant meat in particular. (I say this in case you ask why we bother having any food other than just what we need to survive)

She probably gave the meat to the locals.

Also who cares if she killed an elephant for enjoyment?

I find it so odd. Everyone talks about how they would smash an insect just because it's in their house, yet they cry if someone kills an elephant. Both creatures are alive. Both of them feel pain. What makes the elephant any more significant in the eyes of a human?

It seems obvious that I, along with everyone else who has complained about her killing the elephant, cares that she did this. It also doesnt entirely help your case when you say "probably", more so when you consider that she gave no indication of wanting the meat herself, although that lack of evidence is the fault of the original story, not any lacking on your part.

I dont even know why I'm bothering, there isnt much point to this, but when you kill a spider in your house, its an intruder. Yes, I realize that if you went back in time twenty years the house I live in probably wouldnt exists, so it seems like I would be the real intruder. But when you consider the fact that the lifespan of a bug wouldnt even be a tenth of those twenty years, its a bit different. Then there is the fact that all creatures take up territory, just like spiders make a web to catch food; its the area that they live and survive in. Bugs come to our homes, our territory, we find them, we kill them.

In comparison to this woman goes out of her way to find a country in which she can kill an elephant legally and kills it in its own territory. Now, you can say that an elephant's territory may overlap with that of other animals, and ask how that works, but these animals move around constantly to get what they need. Again, in comparison, most humans will live in a house, and will go out to get their food, then come back to the same place. Animals hunt each other in the wild for what they need. You can say that humans do the same thing, and in fact, do worse by having slaughterhouses that give animals in fact NO freedom and designates them to be eaten by us, but that isnt exactly the decision of those who are arguing against this. If someone were to just not eat anything because it was either made for the sole purpose of being consumed by us (plants included), OR a creature killed in the wild, then you wouldnt be able to live. Self preservation would prevent you from doing so. This woman, however, could have easily stayed at home and not killed this animal.

Oh, and for your own satisfaction, most people find an elephant much more adorable than an insect. But most of the time, when you kill a bug, the death is near-instantaneous. Once again, the animal suffered in the night. But obvisously, once again, you dont care.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Yes, but not everyone does that. For example, I guarantee that a lot of the people crying over the elephant would crush an innocent spider the second they saw it.

But the spider is a threat to me. Harmless spiders I leave alone but white tails can actually cause me harm. Also when I do kill a insect I do it quickly. I have accidently tread on snails before and I always make sure to stop and fully stomp it and make sure its dead instead of leaving it there with a half crushed body, a broken shell and in great pain.

Again, maybe YOU do that, but I'm sure that the majority of the population does not.

 

[Internet Kraken]

This amused me.

The reasoning for doing this is all over the internet, and even outside it. Why you cant see it surprises me.

I'm with the other guy. Enlighten me why the death of a single elephant rates more moral outrage than the death of any number of humans within 50 miles of your house (probably).

It doesnt. Its just that the woman left the animal to suffer, and she just decided to kill it because she wanted to. And she enjoyed just killing it, not hunting it because she needed to to survive, and probably not because she liked elephant meat in particular. (I say this in case you ask why we bother having any food other than just what we need to survive)

Oh, and for your own satisfaction, most people find an elephant much more adorable than an insect. But most of the time, when you kill a bug, the death is near-instantaneous. Once again, the animal suffered in the night. But obvisously, once again, you dont care.

Wrong. Most bugs are resistant to what we consider to be a fatal blow.

 

[guardian001]

If I remember the anatomy of elephants correctly,

you don't

there's something like 2-3 inches of hide before you get to even the muscle.

The elephant's skin around vulnerable areas, such as the trunk, back and sides, the skin can be 2 to 3 Centimeters thick. not inches. so about one inch. at the thickest. the rest is described as "paper thin. (source [http://www.upali.ch/skin_en.html], source 2 [http://elephant.elehost.com/About_Elephants/Anatomy/The_Skin/the_skin.html].)

While I'm sure that would be difficult to pierce, it will be no problem for carbon tipped hunting arrows shot by a strong compound bow.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm tired and my internet connection is very slow right now, so goodnight.

 

[Computer-Noob]

This amused me.

The reasoning for doing this is all over the internet, and even outside it. Why you cant see it surprises me.

I'm with the other guy. Enlighten me why the death of a single elephant rates more moral outrage than the death of any number of humans within 50 miles of your house (probably).

Humans are the only known animals to kill for no reason or sometimes fun.

Wrong

You know just saying wrong about something doesnt make you right. Out of curiousity, what do you have to base what you say off of? The Lion King, when Mufasa was killed and Scar enjoyed it?

I can say that the only creatures that have sex for enjoyment are humans, seahorses, and dolphins. Enjoy saying wrong about that too.

Oh, and dont say dogs. They do it to show their dominance, similar to many other animals. Dominance also applies to animals killing each other.

 

[Computer-Noob]

If I remember the anatomy of elephants correctly,

you don't

there's something like 2-3 inches of hide before you get to even the muscle.

The elephant's skin around vulnerable areas, such as the trunk, back and sides, the skin can be 2 to 3 Centimeters thick. not inches. so about one inch. at the thickest. the rest is described as "paper thin. (source [http://www.upali.ch/skin_en.html], source 2 [http://elephant.elehost.com/About_Elephants/Anatomy/The_Skin/the_skin.html].)

While I'm sure that would be difficult to pierce, it will be no problem for carbon tipped hunting arrows shot by a strong compound bow.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm tired and my internet connection is very slow right now, so goodnight.

I......havent said either of these. Ever....

You know, I dont mind arguing with InternetKraken. It actually seems to be getting somewhere. You can put words into my mouth all you like, its not really going to strengthen your arguement when people read your post, look back to find where I wrote that, and then find nothing. You spell fail.

 

[Worgen]

OH NO THE POOR ELEPHANT

Seriously, I'm sick of these stories. Why do people care about a fucking elephant more than their own species?

This is not news.

because there are 6 billion of our nasty asses and we tend to be overly willing to kill off everything else just to watch it die

You say that as if animals aren't supposed to kill each other.

Also these elephants are overpopulated, so her killing it helps the rest of the species. Plus they probably utilized the corpse of the beast after it had died.

So excuse me for not thinking this woman is a horrible entity of evil.

the only reason the elephants are over populated is because humans have vastly reduced the area they can roam, I tend the find the most amusing thing ever is when the hunter gets injured or killed by the species hes (or shes) trying to kill

So what's your point? The species is still overpopulated.

our species is more over populated

Again, what's your point?

Also our species is not overpopulated. Certain areas of the globe are overpopulated, but not the entire species.

there are 6 billion of us and we show no signs of slowing down in growth, you prove to me that we arnt already over populated

The fact that we aren't slowing down in growth means we are not overpopulated.

We could become overpopulated. Again, some parts of the world already are.

What's your point? What does humans being overpopulated have to do with this?

the point is you keep saying that the elephants need to be culled to avoid over population, my point is that if we didnt claim so much area because we are over populated then that argument would be totaly void and as it is I doubt its validity considering that they are making money off each elephant killed so they probably arnt really looking out for the species best interests, altho granted Ill bet they do help reduce poaching

 

[guardian001]

I......havent said either of these. Ever....

oh crap, I cut the wrong quote lol... excuse me while I go fix that.

 

[megapenguinx]

I'm not disgusted or impressed. I just think the woman is stupid for doing all of this over a bet

 

[Christemo]

it was well done i must admit, but a shame she did it. elephants are endangered, and stuff like that doesnt help them recover.

 

[Computer-Noob]

This amused me.

The reasoning for doing this is all over the internet, and even outside it. Why you cant see it surprises me.

I'm with the other guy. Enlighten me why the death of a single elephant rates more moral outrage than the death of any number of humans within 50 miles of your house (probably).

It doesnt. Its just that the woman left the animal to suffer, and she just decided to kill it because she wanted to. And she enjoyed just killing it, not hunting it because she needed to to survive, and probably not because she liked elephant meat in particular. (I say this in case you ask why we bother having any food other than just what we need to survive)

Most, but are all of these most included in the regular household bugs that people kill? That I kill? I can recall moths, spiders, and ants. All of which I make sure are dead before I either flush them or throw them out into the garbage, assuming I dont save them instead.

Oh, and for your own satisfaction, most people find an elephant much more adorable than an insect. But most of the time, when you kill a bug, the death is near-instantaneous. Once again, the animal suffered in the night. But obvisously, once again, you dont care.

Wrong. Most bugs are resistant to what we consider to be a fatal blow.

Ok, but are all of the household bugs that we kill included in this "most"? I can at least speak for myself and say that I go out of my way to make a quick, clean kill, assuming I dont free any bugs I find in my house, which so far, has only been ants, moths, and spiders.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

It's a shame she didn't have the guts to properly end the animal's suffering. I also find it frustrating when people kill animals that they don't intend to eat/use the parts of.

I'm definitely pro-hunting, but not hunting for no reason. If you're gonna fish, eat the fish. If you're gonna hunt elephant, use it for something... But why would you hunt elephant when there are better (tastier) things to hunt? Is this just an ego thing? If so, forget her.