I see. I remember that LP of KOTOR II I read, and I thought he was the main character of KOTOR I, but I was confused, because I thought we would have known that by now. Ok. That makes sense.DustyDrB said:
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Revan plays a major role in the story later on, but right now, he's really just a footnote.CM156 said:I wonder how that would work in America?.woodaba said:
Now I?m thinking of Antonin Scalia as a Jedi?
Now I?m thinking of Antonin Scalia as a Sith. ? The second one works better. You know, lightsaber battles would make SCOTUS cases a lot more interesting.
Yeah. I can totally see this dude shooting force lightning
Ya know, I gotta be honest. I have no freaking clue who Revan really is or how he relates to our character. Care to fill me in?
Bishop. I really, really wanted to stab him with a holy avenger the moment I saw him. Because I could tell he would be trouble
Oh christ... I forgot about Bishop. The moment I first clicked on him in the goddamn bar, i wanted to stab him. Because someone like that, just doesn't end up being a random insulting NPC. He was trouble, and yet, my Character just said "Duuh...He don't look so bad...."
I'm debating whether or not to do the arena, mainly because in a screenshot LP, it just looks boring as hell. To a casual observer, it just looks like the same fight over and over with no story context. I have the screenshots captured, but it will probably end up being a mini-update just before we leave Taris.DustyDrB said:
It also makes no sense to me why he decided to join me. I was a male, lawful good paladin who had admonished him at every turn. As such, I never used him. And he of course...woodaba said:
betrayed me
Still makes no sense why he gets all the fangirls.
Roughly my reaction.woodaba said:Fangirls....I haven't heard of this penomenon....CM156 said:
(Types Bishop into Deviantart)
As I said, it makes no sense. Then again, Casavir isn't really all that great. He's mostly bland.
Update 11: Do you feel lucky, punk?
Question time! Who is, in your opinion, the most evil bad guy ever? Not the best one, just the most evil one. The one who rips the heads off dead kittens and drinks the blood, but you just can't help but love them for it. For me, there can be only one, and that one is the Kurgan, from Highlander. There's a scene in that movie where he just goes on a rampage through New York with an old woman in tow. Just awesome.
Last time, we completely underestimated the competency of the Sith, as it turns out they have a receptionist.
"Touch that alarm and you're dead!"
"Oh, no. Here's the thing: I have a Czerka brand Killrass blaster here. It's one of the most powerful blasters in the galaxy, and can kill you in a single shot. You've got your hand on the
alarm. You just gotta ask yourself one question. Do you feel lucky, punk? Well, do ya?"
"Wrong answer."
"Um...Varen?"
"What now, Carth?"
"She hit the alarm."
"Well.....shit."
Grenade Spam FTW!
Thankfully, we finally have a competent fighter in Bastila. She and Varen deal with the enemies.
The reception desk gives us access to security.
Ah, my favorite. Who likes their Sith fried?
Oh...shit. This looks like trouble.
This should soften the burden.
You can't see it too well in this shot, but it looks like the robot is writhing in pain. Out of all the character's we've met, out of all the things we've done, this makes me feel the pangs of guilt. It's just it's programming to defend this place. He doesn't know any better! It's not like the droids in Star Wars have any real free will. It's like killing a dog for shitting. It's just what it does!
Hey, look! It's the torture droid from A New Hope's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great Grandparent!
More Cylons. Also, is it jsut me, or is mining a computer seem a bit counter-intuitive.
We also find this familiar face.
"Oh, yeah. Took me a while, but I remember you. All you Duros look alike."
"How do complete the exce- I mean, rescue you?"
Obviously, this Duros is going to bite it. This is the same puzzle you've seen a thousand times, activating a button will switch its color and the color of the buttons beside it. Rinse and repeat until you get them all red, or green.
"MUAH HA HA HA HA HA HA! FEEL THE PAIN, FOOLISH ALIEN! MUAH HA HA HA HA HA!"
Holy shit! He's going super saiyan!"
No, he just exploded. For no reason. THAT would have been a cool bonus boss.
Look, I just don't get this. WHY WOULD YOU PLACE MINES INDOORS, NEAR SENSITIVE EQUIPMENT? That just screams "bad idea" out of every orifice.
Our old friend from the camera appears, and we begin what would normally be one of the most challenging fights in the entire game.
The door slams shut behind us, negating any oppurtunity to escape.
Thankfully however, our previous action in disabling his shield makes this fight a lot easier. The droid still hits hard, but Bastila can heal us, which is easily the most useful force power in the game.
He sorta crouches down to fire his weaponry. Bit inneficient if you ask me, but I'm no robotocist. If there are any of you out there, do killer attack robots have to crouch down to shoot things? kthxbai.
"Bastila...? What are you doing?"
"I'm showing of my ballet moves!"
Bastila's ballet is so awful the robot kill itself out of pure shame.
"I think it blinded me as well."
"Shut up, Carth."
Just through the door on the other side of the room, we come across this fella.
If you're bald, you're evil. It's like some kind of law in fiction. See a bald guy? He's evil. You might as well kill them right there and then to save you the trouble.
...although... having pale skin and visible veins is also a sure sign of evil as well.
"I'm going to enjoy gutting you!"
You mean you don't even have a lightsaber? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Even Bastila has a lightsaber, and she's the worst jedi ever! Oh man, how much of a wimp must this guy be?
Actually, he's pretty tough, but not in the way you might expect. He primarily spams his Stasis force power, which freezes you in place for a few seconds while he wails on one person. Compared to the droid we just fought, though, his stats are pitiful, so he shouldn't be too much trouble.
I can just imagine him blowing rasberries at our frozen faces saying "Nah nah nah nah nah!"
TRULY DIABOLICAL
It's all down to Carth.... so we're fucked.
Thankfully, Bastila breaks free and stabs the Sith Governor through the gut.
We find the launch codes on his bloated corpse. This is our key to get off this overly long planet.
We leave the military installation utterly devestated, without attempting to mask our presence, our clean the damage. Cos thats how we roll.
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Oh, God, Carth wants to whine some more.
"What the hell do you want now, Carth?"
"No, I'm asking whats on YOUR mind. Are you so stupid that you cannot even comprehend fucking english?"
"Whatever the hell you're talking about, spit it out. The whole "mysterious brooder" technique doesn't work on me, asshole."
"Goddammit."
No, I get to badger you with constant questions because you are my underling, and you will do as I say, or you will die.
No, not that one. Though that would make the game 100x more awesome.
"Frakkin Jedi."
"That name sound familiar."
"How much of a fucking idiot are you to not see through that?"
He's like Gaius Baltar, only without the hot robot girlfriend.
"You really think you could have killed Saul Tigh?"
"I dunno. This Saul sounds like a pretty cool gut. He fights jedi and doesn't afraid of anything."
And thank fuck for that.
Time to backtrack to the lower city cantina. So many memories in this place.
If he knows, the Sith must know. We better get off this planet before they hunt us down and castrate Carth.
Actually, maybe we can wait a few hours.
"Okay, welcome to the crew. Crisps over there, punch over there. But how are we going to get into Davik's estate?"
"Background checks... oh shit, I better delete my DeviantART page."
"Why?"
"Let's just say having pages and pages of torture porn doesn't make the best first impression."
"That is horrifying."
"Varen will NEVER make it past the background checks."
"Or in Varen's background."
Entire Audience: YES!
Meanwhile... many miles above Taris...
Oh, shit....
This is Darth Malak. He's an entirely one-dimensional bad guy with no real motivation for being as consistently evil as he always is.
He's also AWESOME. I'm not kidding, for pure evil factor, Malak rivals some of the villains from D&D's forgotten realms, and thats the world where Evil is pretty much a religon.
"I suggest you get going, Saul. Unless, you want me to wrench your eye out with an ice cream scoop? No? Then get going."
See you next time.
"Touch that alarm and you're dead!"
"Oh, no. Here's the thing: I have a Czerka brand Killrass blaster here. It's one of the most powerful blasters in the galaxy, and can kill you in a single shot. You've got your hand on the
alarm. You just gotta ask yourself one question. Do you feel lucky, punk? Well, do ya?"
"Wrong answer."
"Um...Varen?"
"What now, Carth?"
"She hit the alarm."
"Well.....shit."
Grenade Spam FTW!
Thankfully, we finally have a competent fighter in Bastila. She and Varen deal with the enemies.
The reception desk gives us access to security.
Ah, my favorite. Who likes their Sith fried?
Oh...shit. This looks like trouble.
This should soften the burden.
You can't see it too well in this shot, but it looks like the robot is writhing in pain. Out of all the character's we've met, out of all the things we've done, this makes me feel the pangs of guilt. It's just it's programming to defend this place. He doesn't know any better! It's not like the droids in Star Wars have any real free will. It's like killing a dog for shitting. It's just what it does!
Hey, look! It's the torture droid from A New Hope's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great Grandparent!
More Cylons. Also, is it jsut me, or is mining a computer seem a bit counter-intuitive.
We also find this familiar face.
"Oh, yeah. Took me a while, but I remember you. All you Duros look alike."
"How do complete the exce- I mean, rescue you?"
Obviously, this Duros is going to bite it. This is the same puzzle you've seen a thousand times, activating a button will switch its color and the color of the buttons beside it. Rinse and repeat until you get them all red, or green.
"MUAH HA HA HA HA HA HA! FEEL THE PAIN, FOOLISH ALIEN! MUAH HA HA HA HA HA!"
Holy shit! He's going super saiyan!"
No, he just exploded. For no reason. THAT would have been a cool bonus boss.
Look, I just don't get this. WHY WOULD YOU PLACE MINES INDOORS, NEAR SENSITIVE EQUIPMENT? That just screams "bad idea" out of every orifice.
Our old friend from the camera appears, and we begin what would normally be one of the most challenging fights in the entire game.
The door slams shut behind us, negating any oppurtunity to escape.
Thankfully however, our previous action in disabling his shield makes this fight a lot easier. The droid still hits hard, but Bastila can heal us, which is easily the most useful force power in the game.
He sorta crouches down to fire his weaponry. Bit inneficient if you ask me, but I'm no robotocist. If there are any of you out there, do killer attack robots have to crouch down to shoot things? kthxbai.
"Bastila...? What are you doing?"
"I'm showing of my ballet moves!"
Bastila's ballet is so awful the robot kill itself out of pure shame.
"I think it blinded me as well."
"Shut up, Carth."
Just through the door on the other side of the room, we come across this fella.
If you're bald, you're evil. It's like some kind of law in fiction. See a bald guy? He's evil. You might as well kill them right there and then to save you the trouble.
...although... having pale skin and visible veins is also a sure sign of evil as well.
"I'm going to enjoy gutting you!"
You mean you don't even have a lightsaber? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Even Bastila has a lightsaber, and she's the worst jedi ever! Oh man, how much of a wimp must this guy be?
Actually, he's pretty tough, but not in the way you might expect. He primarily spams his Stasis force power, which freezes you in place for a few seconds while he wails on one person. Compared to the droid we just fought, though, his stats are pitiful, so he shouldn't be too much trouble.
I can just imagine him blowing rasberries at our frozen faces saying "Nah nah nah nah nah!"
TRULY DIABOLICAL
It's all down to Carth.... so we're fucked.
Thankfully, Bastila breaks free and stabs the Sith Governor through the gut.
We find the launch codes on his bloated corpse. This is our key to get off this overly long planet.
We leave the military installation utterly devestated, without attempting to mask our presence, our clean the damage. Cos thats how we roll.
Oh, God, Carth wants to whine some more.
"What the hell do you want now, Carth?"
"No, I'm asking whats on YOUR mind. Are you so stupid that you cannot even comprehend fucking english?"
"Whatever the hell you're talking about, spit it out. The whole "mysterious brooder" technique doesn't work on me, asshole."
"Goddammit."
No, I get to badger you with constant questions because you are my underling, and you will do as I say, or you will die.
No, not that one. Though that would make the game 100x more awesome.
"Frakkin Jedi."
"That name sound familiar."
"How much of a fucking idiot are you to not see through that?"
He's like Gaius Baltar, only without the hot robot girlfriend.
"You really think you could have killed Saul Tigh?"
"I dunno. This Saul sounds like a pretty cool gut. He fights jedi and doesn't afraid of anything."
And thank fuck for that.
Time to backtrack to the lower city cantina. So many memories in this place.
If he knows, the Sith must know. We better get off this planet before they hunt us down and castrate Carth.
Actually, maybe we can wait a few hours.
"Okay, welcome to the crew. Crisps over there, punch over there. But how are we going to get into Davik's estate?"
"Background checks... oh shit, I better delete my DeviantART page."
"Why?"
"Let's just say having pages and pages of torture porn doesn't make the best first impression."
"That is horrifying."
"Varen will NEVER make it past the background checks."
"Or in Varen's background."
Entire Audience: YES!
Meanwhile... many miles above Taris...
Oh, shit....
This is Darth Malak. He's an entirely one-dimensional bad guy with no real motivation for being as consistently evil as he always is.
He's also AWESOME. I'm not kidding, for pure evil factor, Malak rivals some of the villains from D&D's forgotten realms, and thats the world where Evil is pretty much a religon.
"I suggest you get going, Saul. Unless, you want me to wrench your eye out with an ice cream scoop? No? Then get going."
See you next time.
Question time! Who is, in your opinion, the most evil bad guy ever? Not the best one, just the most evil one. The one who rips the heads off dead kittens and drinks the blood, but you just can't help but love them for it. For me, there can be only one, and that one is the Kurgan, from Highlander. There's a scene in that movie where he just goes on a rampage through New York with an old woman in tow. Just awesome.
Leaving Taris!!!!
Evil guys...
In video games: I loved Jack of Blades from the first Fable game. He's a classic "world domination" type. But he had a cool design and some great voice work behind him. I tend to prefer manipulative villains. I don't know if he's my favorite villain, but he's probably my favorite unsympathetic, totally evil villain.
Out of games (well...technically out of them), it's easy: The Joker. He's the master troll.
Edit:
I meant to say this before. That Duros prisoner? In all the times I've played this game, I think I've saved him only once. And I've also only been evil once in this game. I'm just reeeaaally careless about that puzzle. I don't know why. It's a bit funny, though. I'm like, "Dude, I am sooo gonna get you out of here. We'll have an Old Fashioned each on me. Just let me flick these switches...Oh...wups. You know, man. Taris sucks anyway. You're better off dying a painful death in a Sith prison."
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Evil guys...
In video games: I loved Jack of Blades from the first Fable game. He's a classic "world domination" type. But he had a cool design and some great voice work behind him. I tend to prefer manipulative villains. I don't know if he's my favorite villain, but he's probably my favorite unsympathetic, totally evil villain.
Out of games (well...technically out of them), it's easy: The Joker. He's the master troll.
Edit:
I meant to say this before. That Duros prisoner? In all the times I've played this game, I think I've saved him only once. And I've also only been evil once in this game. I'm just reeeaaally careless about that puzzle. I don't know why. It's a bit funny, though. I'm like, "Dude, I am sooo gonna get you out of here. We'll have an Old Fashioned each on me. Just let me flick these switches...Oh...wups. You know, man. Taris sucks anyway. You're better off dying a painful death in a Sith prison."
I had the exact same problem, until i had an epiphany. Human being naturally associate the color green with good, or go, while we see red as bad, or stop. When trying to do this quest we naturally gravitate towards green when we're trying to save the dude, because that's what we see as good. Therefore, we kill him, thinking we're saving him.DustyDrB said:
At least, that's how I justify it to myself every night as I try to sleep and hear his dying screams that haunt me to this very day. Ahem.
I think ya?ll should do that regardless. (I?m not a huge fan of deviantart or the community there)woodaba said:
Time for the space-port loophole! You can buy anything without a background check! Including deadly-assault Wookies! They have shoulder things that come up, too!
True dat, drue dat.
In video games? I rather liked Myrkul. For several reasons. But because I'm not going to talk about MotB as much: I have to say I like Iago [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iago] the most in any form of media.
Tell me about it, man. There's way too much fetish art there. I wish they'd be at least honest about what they draw. But more often than not, they aren't.woodaba said:
Also, you got the "space-port loophole" joke, right?
It's a reference to the "gun show loophole". In the states, when you buy a gun, you have to go through a background check though the NCIS. If you buy from a Federal Firearms License (FFL) dealer, that is. But if you privately sell a gun at a gun show and you aren't a FFL dealer, you can sell without a background check. If someone can't pass a background check, they may exploit this "loophole". As for the shoulder thing that goes up....woodaba said:Sorry, man.CM156 said:Is it from Spaceballs? That movie gets refrenced every 0.5 seconds on the internet, yet I've never seen it.
<--- Gun enthusiast.
Ah, that explains it. I live in the UK, where we're civilized and spend our summers rioting, our winters shutting down the country, and the intervening time complaining about the weather and electing idiots into government.CM156 said:It's a reference to the "gun show loophole". In the states, when you buy a gun, you have to go through a background check though the NCIS. If you buy from a Federal Firearms License (FFL) dealer, that is. But if you privately sell a gun at a gun show and you aren't a FFL dealer, you can sell without a background check. If someone can't pass a background check, they may exploit this "loophole". As for the shoulder thing that goes up....woodaba said:Sorry, man.CM156 said:
<--- Gun enthusiast.
Maybe having guns would make the place more lively.
I can see that.woodaba said:Ah, that explains it. I live in the UK, where we're civilized and spend our summers rioting, our winters shutting down the country, and the intervening time complaining about the weather and electing idiots into government.CM156 said:It's a reference to the "gun show loophole". In the states, when you buy a gun, you have to go through a background check though the NCIS. If you buy from a Federal Firearms License (FFL) dealer, that is. But if you privately sell a gun at a gun show and you aren't a FFL dealer, you can sell without a background check. If someone can't pass a background check, they may exploit this "loophole". As for the shoulder thing that goes up....woodaba said:Sorry, man.CM156 said:
<--- Gun enthusiast.
Maybe having guns would make the place more lively.
Personally, though: I'd like to be able to buy a deadly assault wookie. Then again, I can't think of any NON-deadly wookies, so that perhaps makes it a bit redundant.
Most evil bad guy ever huh?
This might sound unimaginative, but I think I've got to go with Voldemort from Harry Potter. His only motivation for all the killing, torturing and oppressing he inflicts on everyone is that he wants to live forever, and there's minimal justification for how he came to be that way - he's just a stone cold psychopath.
Plus he tried to kill a baby, of all things. That's like <a href=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KickTheDog>Kicking the Dog on steroids. Even Sauron didn't do that.
This might sound unimaginative, but I think I've got to go with Voldemort from Harry Potter. His only motivation for all the killing, torturing and oppressing he inflicts on everyone is that he wants to live forever, and there's minimal justification for how he came to be that way - he's just a stone cold psychopath.
Plus he tried to kill a baby, of all things. That's like <a href=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KickTheDog>Kicking the Dog on steroids. Even Sauron didn't do that.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/000/681/what-you-did-there-i-see-it.thumbnail.jpg
now for the bad guy, hmmmmm just because i am a bioware fanboy, the Reapers,spoilers for me2
although I guess they are helping us or something by turning us into reapers or soemthing.
edit: Never mind the reapers, but sticking with Bioware games, no not the darkspawn but the bloodmages that created them. The Tevinter Imperium, I mean c'mon they tried to make heaven bend to their will if that isn't evil I don't know what is.(and because my fave origin is the Dalish)